DP, Couples, & The Disappearing Single Male

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by JustAskJulie

I think in reality MOST guys (unless they have admitted some bi tendancies) have serious reservations about the idea of their balls touching another guys balls. It seems like for many a MFM threesome is ok as long as there is no touching between the guys and even accidental should be minimal... but at least then it's accidental. Perhaps for some guys, putting themselves in a position where they KNOW there's going to be male/male touching is just a little "too far" towards bisexuality for them.

I think it goes into the same category as gangbangs in a way. Most guys initially may say that sounds cool, but when they really start thinking about it and putting THEMSELVES in the position of being involved in one, it's not nearly as cool. Fun to watch, but being involved puts you in a different category, or something.

While I have never been in a DP, and anyone who has followed this forum knows I think of my self as 100% straight arrow, I have talked about a DP with some very good friends of ours (and its the girls that always chicken out in the end).

While I have no personal desire to do a DP, and I'd rather not be that 'close' in this case it would be something for the women to experiance far more than myself. If they wanted one AND we were all very good comfy friends I could do it but only for them.

As a side note, this is why I always get a bit peeved when the male bisexuality threads come up and 100% straight men are refered to as homophobic. It has nothing to do with fear, I don't fear a man touching me in the least, I just don't want it or would I get enjoyment from it. If it was a phobia I wouldn't be willing to do a DP :rollseyes

[JnCC]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Do you think many guys like the idea of DP, but when it comes down to finally meeting they chicken out because they have little experience in this area or lack the comfort level required for it?

I can't speak about how other guys feel, since I'm just li'l old me. But I feel the same way about some other guy trying to fuck a woman I'm fucking, as I do about some other guy trying to drink out of MY pitcher of beer while I'M drinking it. Only in this case, it's 10 times worse.

Yea, I've done DP, but slappin' man-stones wasn't so bad. Hell, that was the easy part! What I remember most about it was how physically hard it was for everybody involved. The woman was afraid to grind her hips as much as she usually did because neither she nor I could reach her ass, and he sure as hell wasn't going to "pop me back in" if it was my dick that fell out. Plus, the other guy was like 6'3" and 240 or so, and had bad knees or back or something. So the whole time, he was trying to hover over her ass like a damn helicopter, but we could all tell by the sounds he was making he was about to "jettison his sling load" and "land" on a nearby chair.

That would have been fine with me, since I was at the bottom of that sweaty, grunting, dog-and-pony show, just trying to fuckin' breathe. I couldn't see, I couldn't move, I couldn't thrust my hips, I couldn't even play with her tits because they were all smashed up against my chest. It felt like the World Trade Center had collapsed on me. I'm just glad I wasn't killed - I'd hate to think what the NY Post might have run for their headline...

Man Found Dead in NYC Hotel Room-
Believed to be Victim of MFM Accident

Giuliani Promises Full Investigation

There's nothing wrong with a DP...if you're a coal miner with a full breathing apparatus and the other guy is a midget acrobat with a 10-inch dick. But I'm glad I've got that checked off my "list of things to do before I die."

[BodyScape02]

OPh my god that is funny!

[lovefest04]

This is something that Ted and I have a LOT of experience in ...not the traditional DP (anal/vaginal)...but vaginal DP.

We are with you here. We also started with dildo's and progressed to the real thing. She loves to ask the men how it feels to be touching each other etc. She's sooo kinky. But it gets her wild. Me, whatever gets her off.

We have never been stood up by a couple or single males. In fact, one evening we had been making arrangements with a guy who was a little wissy washy about his availability when another guy contacted us. At the last minute we decided to invite both expecting one not to show. We have never invited more than one man to join us before.

Well, the first showed at the bar and the second called to touch base. He asked if the first had shown, we said yes and he was surprised. So I guess it does happen and even the single men expect it.

My wife, of course, began to panic, three men, but that rapidly faded and in its place came an expression of "a kid in a candy store" facelick facelick

I do agree that part of the issue might be how you treat the men. Everyone deserves equal respect and consideration. We really go out of our way to make sure all involved are feeling comfortable.

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by EternallySingle

One couple got turned down by three different single men? That couple is not doing something to make the single men believe they are serious, or they pushed the sex angle so much that the men didn't believe they were real.

I think this makes lots of sense.

The couple probably doesn't realize how they have been setting themselves up for the outcome they've experienced.

LM

[two4youinswva]

Originally Posted by JnCC

What I remember most about it was how physically hard it was for everybody involved. .................................
................That would have been fine with me, since I was at the bottom of that sweaty, grunting, dog-and-pony show, just trying to fuckin' breathe. I couldn't see, I couldn't move, I couldn't thrust my hips, I couldn't even play with her tits because they were all smashed up against my chest.

Is this where they came up with the term "Clusterfuck"?

Very funny post JnCC!

[L&R]

[R here] First off L says it's off her menu! And I can say my past two wives, DP was off their menus as well. For the brief period I was a (single) male I can only offer some personal concerns that I was concerned with...the rubbing nut sacks with the hubby wasn't really that big of a deal ( a cheep thrill maybe(L is looking at me strangely) it was the Not having ever met this guy(hubby) and his possible physical size/strenght that concerned me...the fact that he was perfectly ok with the contact concerned me....the fear of possibly being knocked in the head and wake up hog tied with MY backdoor acking. Maybe after getting to know the couple alittle better and some trust is developed- Yes. But you kinda have to put yourself in the single man's POV. Stating right off the bat..you want DP or double V could kinda scare a guy off.

[Carol_Danny]

I guess we are in the minority here. We have entertained many single guys over the years, and have never had a problem with any of them when it came to double-penetration. I can't think of one time where a guy balked, or couldn't perform.

Danny & Carol

[L&R]

Originally Posted by Carol_Danny

I guess we are in the minority here. We have entertained many single guys over the years, and have never had a problem with any of them when it came to double-penetration. I can't think of one time where a guy balked, or couldn't perform.

Danny & Carol

[ R here] Well Danny, just one look at your Avatar, and I can see why!There's not a man alive that given the opportunity and privilage, could live with himself if he disappointed such a beautiful angel. He would probably throw himself off a bridge first. ( note: L gave me complete premission to write this and says you're cute too like a big snuggle bear)

[Carol_Danny]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Do you think many guys like the idea of DP, but when it comes down to finally meeting they chicken out because they have little experience in this area or lack the comfort level required for it?

I don't even think the idea of DP is part of the problem. The only problem we really have had with single men is not showing up for a meeting! We have discussed this with many people and the consensus is that these guys are just on-line for the fantasy of it all, but then when that fantasy is about to become reality, they chicken out. They get their own perverse pleasure with the fantasy, but cannot face the reality when it comes time.

We no longer go out of our way to meet single men. We do encourage them to meet us, but on our terms. We go for drinks every Friday for a couple of hours, and meet up with a group of friends. The friends are split 50/50 as to Swingers and non-Swingers. We now tell guys if they want to meet to show up on Friday and chat. If they show up and we hit it off, we may take things further. But if they do not show up, we haven't lost our time

We have also met many couples for the first time on these same Friday get-togethers. Since it is a neighbourhood pub, it is very no-pressure, and many couples enjoy that for a first meeting. Many of those same couples have also become regulars on Fridays with us

Carol xoxoxo
& Danny

[Blade]

I couldn't help but read this thread and giggle. You see, a MFM DP situation was how I started my life as a single guy in this lifestyle! Met a nice couple and things escalated from there. Yay!

I do agree that the probable reason for the bailouts (Which in my humble opinion is a chicken shit way of doing things) is the whole gay fear factor thing. But if you agree to show up and meet someone, you should at least meet them. Anything happening in the bedroom (or couch, table, or hanging from the chandelier) should be agreed upon by all parties, and if someone isn't conmfortable, then you make adjustments. On the other hand, if you showed up for an agreed upon DP session, you'd better come packin brother.

[lnk4u]

Another reason most people here have not thought of( or just didn't want to say) is maybe these 'single' men are married.

[SluttyWife]

Originally Posted by JustAskJulie

I think in reality MOST guys (unless they have admitted some bi tendancies) have serious reservations about the idea of their balls touching another guys balls.

Well said, Julie!
I think that is the #1 reason most MMF things don't pan out.
There definitely seems to be an "ick factor" and it's not just
when balls collide. Waking up together and taking turns for trips
to the bathroom in between can be incredibly awkward and so on once passion has gone to the wayside.
IMHO Guys seeking the DP experience need to be comfortable with ahem...male anotomy period and often times it takes lots of experience to get to a certain "comfort level."

Hmmmm...
Had you and wifey considered gangbang groups?... or checking out profiles on ad sites with people seeking a "hotwife" or providing a "traveling stud" or "bull" service? Men with a fetish for this thing are your best bet. A literal "Army of Love" right there waiting for the likes of you!
Tip: They seem to be easier to find on Yahoo and MSN Groups...

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by SluttyWife

Hmmmm...
Had you and wifey considered gangbang groups?... or checking out profiles on ad sites with people seeking a "hotwife" or providing a "traveling stud" or "bull" service? Men with a fetish for this thing are your best bet. A literal "Army of Love" right there waiting for the likes of you!
Tip: They seem to be easier to find on Yahoo and MSN Groups...

I'm not sure who you're addressing your question and statements to, but since I wrote the opening post I think I should reply.

I have no interest in gangbangs a "traveling stud" or "bull" service and I don't consider myself a "hotwife."

As I explained in my opening post, my questions were prompted by a thread I read on an ad site we belong to, I'm not writing about myself, I'm writing about another couple on that site who have been having problems.

LM

[L&R]

Originally Posted by Blade

I couldn't help but read this thread and giggle. You see, a MFM DP situation was how I started my life as a single guy in this lifestyle! Met a nice couple and things escalated from there. Yay!

I do agree that the probable reason for the bailouts (Which in my humble opinion is a chicken shit way of doing things) is the whole gay fear factor thing. But if you agree to show up and meet someone, you should at least meet them. Anything happening in the bedroom (or couch, table, or hanging from the chandelier) should be agreed upon by all parties, and if someone isn't conmfortable, then you make adjustments. On the other hand, if you showed up for an agreed upon DP session, you'd better come packin brother.

Come Packin'???????

Do you mean like a big thick dick?
Or a .40 cal glock?

I usually leave mine in the truck, I don't have a carry/conceal permit, and I always thought it would scare the couples.