Who would swing with me?

[DBL D]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

To be fair, she wasn't totally sober

Spoomonkey

She must've been color blind too, you unmitigated piece of...Oh that's another thread.

Male D

[JustAskJulie]

She was probably confused, too, because he was wearing a skirt. She probably thought she was jumping another woman - you know how us women tend to do that to each other when we are drinking.

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by JustAskJulie

She was probably confused, too, because he was wearing a skirt. She probably thought she was jumping another woman - you know how us women tend to do that to each other when we are drinking.

Really... Note to self... Buy another skirt I have to admit, I am not one bit bothered by being the victim of a lesbian/bisexual lapse of discernment. Drunk, confused, out of meds... Whatever works. Come on, guys - I'm a chimp for christ's sake...

And, Male D... You just wait until I find out what "unmitigated" means...

Spoomonkey

[curiousagain]

Curious, much like practice interviews so to speak. Take female friends out just as friends. It's a no pressure way to try a new restaurant, bar, movie theatre. You can practice all the little things and have a friendly critiquer right there.

[JustAskJulie]

Plus, guys always (and don't ask me why) look more attractive when they are with another girl - especially a female friend, or sister. There are actually businesses that have been created around this idea, where they provide Wing Women for guys, basically girls to go out with you as just friends and help you pick up women.

[curiousagain]

Plus, they see how you act in public, help "improve" you as women always want to do and they have female friends, sisters, cousins, etc. If you are seen as "a catch" guess who gets first heads up when their buddies are in need of a date??

Word of mouth, you can't buy advertising like that. Combine it with the "insider trading" of them fixing you up with their buddies and the word networking takes on a whole new meaning.

[curious24]

Originally Posted by JnCC

I have a friend who used to apply for every single job in our field that came along. (Typically, the interview process involves one day of air travel, 2 days of testing and board interviews, and another day of travel home) Most of the interviews were with companies he had absolutely NO intention of accepting a position with. I asked him why he wasted 4 days of his time and 2 of theirs interviewing for jobs he didn't want, and he said...

"Because some day I'll be interviewing for a job I DO want. When that day occurs, I want to be as relaxed and composed as possible, and have answers ready for anything they can possibly throw at me. These interviews are great practice for that day"

(BTW, "that day" did come, and he was hired over 10 other applicants, most of whom were better qualified on paper than he was)

I remembered about this thread and read it once again. It's amazing to reread it and know what all I have forgotten about it. I did remember this though and it really does work.

I hated my job and I think that's part of the reason why I wasn't fun to be around and kind of a downer for many years. Well I started to apply for everything just like you suggested and went on a TON of interviews. During that time I really polished up on my skills and got so sick of my job I decided I was at a point in my life where I could support myself without the crappy job I had. Therefore, I took a risk and quit!

Quitting was the best thing I ever did! My family and friends all said they could tell and see a great change in my personality. It amazed me how much my horrible job affected my whole life.

At any rate, I was out of a job less than two months. When that awesome job I wanted came around I had been on many interviews and just about everyone one I went too I was getting offers. I turned down many I got so good at it. However, I finally caught a break and got an interview with a company I REALLY wanted to be with. Low and behold I went in a little nervous but after the first 5 minutes I calmed down and went to town.

One thing I found is that being honest and telling the potential empolyer exactly what you want to do and not to do, what you are expecting from them, what your career goals are, and just laying it all out there is the best way to get their attention. Then combine that with real experience and stories from previous jobs to back it up really comes off great. One story I told when they asked me what my biggest professional disappointment was I think I shocked them with how honest I was at least my parents couldn't believe the story I told them.

Anyway, one thing this experience has taught me is that being very honest and forth coming about what you are looking for and being agressive (not too agressive though) will get you what you want. Now I'm meeting a ton of new people! Something that I haven't been in a place to do since college. In fact in my first 5 days at my new job I met a cool woman and asked her out. She had a b/f but seemed to be flattered that I even asked.

I'm going to keep churning away at both "dating" and the lifestyle and see what happens. I'm just really excited that I'm really happy with what's going on and my confidance in myself has really shot through the roof lately and I think that's going to help me in all aspects of my life.

So I wanted to thank you all for taking the time to reply to my original message. I am taking the advice that you all have given me to heart and it's really paying off. So thank you all!

[RnLinohio]

This is a quote from CURios24:

I don't go to clubs around here because they usually don't allow single guys and they are just too expensive to get in whenever they do allow single men. When online at personal sites I've seen a lot of listings for socials for swingers to attend to get to know one another etc. Every single one I have sent a message to the organizers to see if single males where welcome. Every single one has been no it's only for couples and single women. *shrug* Not much I can do about that. I do agree with you that meeting face-to-face would be the best thing but when no one wants to meet you it's kind of hard.

But I have given up on traditional dating. You know seeing someone asking them out on an offical date etc. I'm taking the route now of just hanging out and if something happens great! If not there's really not much I can do about it. I think I'm at the point of I don't really care anymore because the dates that I have been on have just been hell so forget that. New approach. Although your story is the best thing ever! haha.





Wow! you left yourself a lot of options Club to expensive, given up on traditional dating Surrender . Have you checked on your ad. see how it's worded........pics. on it? To me your not even trying, or people not intrested in you. Just a simple chat online is not the only way on how to meet someone.

[Dynamar]

Congrats curious24!!! Thanks for sharing.

[davephx]

Maybe the reason it is so hard for single guys is because by tradition and definition swinging is about couples. Some swing clubs allow single guys on some nights to make money, but basically they allow singles to watch usually the exhibitionist couples that come those nights and many other swingers avoid.

There are very good reasons why couples like to share with other couples.

Yes there are some couples that enjoy a extra man once in a while but the supply of wantaparticipate single male is humongous. There does seem to be more interest in some cities for single males if the male is bi.

Back years ago when I led the Phoenix couples group, we ran ads and for every 10 couples that responded we had 100 single guys and maybe one single female (they often were doms looking for slave guys).

Out of frustration not being able to help single guys I got interested in sexwork which often is a far less expensive practical alternative than the disappontments of trying to be a single guy in swinging which again by definition is for couples.

Dave in Phoenix
Founder, Liberated Christians
http://www.libchrist.com and
Sexwork Resource Center
http://www.sexwork.com
LoveTouch & Therapeutic Touch Institute
http://www.lovetouch.info