Single men are to be respected

[EvilMJ]

Okay I probably should not get involved with this but there are some items I just wanted to speak on here.

As far as single men getting respect, I feel the same way about single men as I do about couples, single women..etc..respect is earned. I do not lump anyone together as a group, as I feel you have done here by saying that all couples do this. I give respect to people when they act in a manner that is deserving. I do not assume that just because someone is single that they are going to be undesirable jerks, nor do I assume that couples are safe and the only way to go. There is good and bad in all groups.

Your comments on what a woman is expected to do in a marriage are not only offensive but outdated!! My husband and I are partners, we both work, we both take responsiblity with raising our child, we both do housework in OUR house. We share the paycheques for the bills and necessities, and if there is some left over, we share that too. Sex between us is when we both want it...it is not expected nor is it a requirement! There are times that I don't want to have sex, and there are times when he doesn't either...we love each other enought to understand that. If you are not getting sex at home then you need to speak to your partner or get some professional couples therapy.

There is a difference between cheating and swinging. I won't get into that.

We as a couple are very picky as to who we swing with. It does matter to us whether someone is single or married and obviouly cheating on their wife. We like to have somethings in common with them and be able to have a friendship with them.

However, bottom line is, we don't predjudge anyone. Our opinions on people are based on their actions and personality.

[DBL D]

This thread reminds me of some of the "conversations" I've had with Fem D that escalated into something because of something we just should have IGNORED.

However this one I couldn't resist....

From Just Ask Julie:

"Perhaps he should put as much energy into finding out why his wife doesn't want to have sex with him as he is into trying to find someone else to replace her in the bedroom?"

...Just CLASSIC ! ! !

Oh and Curiousagain, I'm ready for that F__k now.

Male D

[Denver2some]

Originally Posted by RuCoupleFromAu

No one is waving shiny toys, but you are following other kids and begging them to let you play with theirs ... is it their fault that they have shiny toys and you broke yours?

Very well said, RuCouple!

[sapphire68]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The fact his wife is not living up to her end of the bargain entitles him to get what he needs. She takes his paycheck, house, and expects him to help with chores and children! But she will not meet her part of the contract?

That type of situation doesn't intitle a man to seek sex outside the home. THAT would be cheating. He should leave his wife if he isn't happy?? That situation has nothing to do with a single male swinging. A married man isn't a single male, he is a cheater. Why not leave your wife and go find another woman that will satisfy you and possibly start swinging along with you as a couple. Just a thought.

[Menage_a_Trois]

Talk about someone who is completely at a loss as to that the lifesytle is really about - you are the poster child for "Don't have a Clue!" .....

Want to reply more but we don't have the time right now and WE need too cool down first! This one really has PISSED us off..........

The Menage's

[Edison Carter]

Susan here--To this sad man, you have my pity. The key to this is that we in the Lifestyle wish to play with people that are in positive relationships in an open environment. You , sadly, have neither. You want to hide from your relationship, engage in a fantasy that we are not interested in, which fills the gaps of your frustrated life. For us, there is no argument to indulge that and encourage you to take the proper measures to address the problems in your life.

[Chicup]

Just remember this guy hasn't been around for 2 years

[Alura]

I take that as a good thing, don't you, Chicup? There are some great posts in this thread from some of our classic posters of the past. It's nice to read their wisdom again.

Mr. Alura

[Alura]

Menage a' Trois wrote:


Talk about someone who is completely at a loss as to what the lifesytle is really about - you are the poster child for "Don't have a Clue!" .....

Y'know, Menage, it occurs to me that Swinging is a lot like riding a Harley (or maybe any motorcycle...). An old biker adage goes:

"For those who understand, no explanation is necessary; for those who don't, no explanation is possible."


Mr. Alura

[sapphire68]

Originally Posted by Chicup

Just remember this guy hasn't been around for 2 years

I just noticed this.

[Newbiewife]

We should all "respect" one another - period.

My husband and I have had three mfm encounters, all of which were with men who were extremely respectful and eager to please. Their attitudes made the difference in our encounters - for had they had the attitude of this original poster, they would have been sent packing without so much as a kiss.

I'm not going to speak for other couples, but as far as my husband and myself are concerned, single men must understand their role/place in this lifestyle: they are merely a "tool" used by us for the purpose of sexual exploration and enhancement within the confines of our marital bed. The experience is not about them - it is about us. As a result, my husband and I have had some wonderfully unique and erotic experiences, but make no mistake, these men left very satisfied, as well.

So all you single men out there with a chip on your shoulder, consider viewing yourselves as someone who is there to help a husband please his wife, rather than someone who demands another's wife to please you.

[Pepper & Drew]

Originally Posted by Alura

Y'know, Menage, it occurs to me that Swinging is a lot like riding a Harley (or maybe any motorcycle...). An old biker adage goes:

"For those who understand, no explanation is necessary; for those who don't, no explanation is possible."


Mr. Alura

I love that! I'm borrowing it. I'll give it back after I'm done using it .

Pepper

[bigjoehd]

Originally Posted by adventureUS2

This guy is the reason most people dont want to meet single males. I feel bad for the good single guy this man represents

well said!

you gotta be shittin me,you go off on a rant about how unfair it is that single men have to pay for the ad's,if you think just because YOU paid for some stupid ad probabally with a screen name like DICKMASTER2000 it gives you the right to act like a fool.

being a single man who was invited for an evening with a commited/married couple is very much like being on the first date with a single female,you need to be respectful & not pushy but i suspect thats not your style,you remind me of one of the (put out or get out) dinks who think just because they gave a girl a ride in their mint 1962 corvette that they can do anything they want.

your sucess rate with married couples has to be at zero & with your whiny & arrogant attitude you can expect more of the same sucess ratio until you learn how to act like a human being.

[sereneiders]

supershadow,

Just FYI, since it seems you still didn't noticed:

THE FACT THAT WE'RE SWINGERS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WONT CHOOSE WHO TO FUCK WITH

Plain and simple.You don't like it? I don't care!

As stated before, swinging is a COUPLE ativity, where CERTAIN singles may be invited to attend. Besides the personal tastes, for most of us, the understanding of the couples issues and the proper attitude towards everyone's else involved is the basic requirement a single must fulfill just to start talking about having the chance to share our bed.

I won't generalize about singles here, because you're the perfect example of someone who doesn't fulfill those requirements, and you're not representative of the singles accepted in the swinging arena.

1) You're not single, but married. Then trying to USE swingers to cheat on your wife is disrespectfull to YOUR wife, and if you cannot respect your wife, you hardly would respect us.

2) You have problems inside your marriage? I can tell you why!

You talk about us showing the toy just to tell you you cannot get it. Just this concept is enough to describe your mindset: by "us" you mean only the male half of the couples, being the female halfs our "toys", thus you're stating men should behave as if we were a corporation where it's supposed that any member should put the corporation interests ahead of everything else (even our marriages). So we (the married boys) are owing you something because we're "betraying" your rights inside this corporation, much like being kids at the park, where the ball owner were choosing who can play and who cannot.

Well, I have news for you: our wifes aren't just balls to play with. Moreover, our wifes are part of the "us". They show off themselves because they like to, and they do it for "us", not for you: you wasn't invited to this party, and even when you're able to look trough the window how much fun we're having, and wanting to get in, you have no RIGHT to knok our door and step in. Socially skilfull people in your position could knock the door, politely talk and ask to be invited to attend, knowing beforehand that they have high chances of being rejected, and being up to take rejection.

So, you lack the most basic social skills. To the point of trying to impose us your viewpoint.

And of course, this reflects your attitude towards your own wife: for you, she isn't more than a ball to play with, a toy, the useless piece of meat surrounding her holes (the only usefull thing for you). And it is likely that she dislikes to be seen this way, and since you doesn't think of her as a PERSON (someone with needs), you hardly have chances to please her sexually as for her to want to give you the hell of the pary in bed you're craving so badly.

And BTW, this is enough to tell you won't be able to please our wives, moreover, you'd get laid and they would get just a bad experience in return.

Sorry but, you doesn't deserve our time, not even for a chit/chat, less for a fuck.

As I said at the begining, WE CHOOSE. And we choose to AVOID guys like you, we wouldn't touch YOU (and just YOU) not even with a pee stream.

So the last resource you though of was to try to include yourself as one more single in the swinger arena, perhaps wanting to build a "singles union" up to defend you against "the bad guys" by sharing your whinings. Don't even dare, you're insulting those singles with your attitude.

[Alura]

Pepper wrote:

I love that! I'm borrowing it. I'll give it back after I'm done using it.

Aw, that's alright, Pepper... you're welcome to it. You can keep it. It isn't mine anyway. I have found I've used it often. It helps to sorta explain one's weirdnesses and I have plenty to explain...

Mr. Alura