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What Is A Cuckold? top

 

The word "cuckold" probably comes from the practice of the cuckoo bird. The female cuckoo mates with an alpha-male, who then moves on to encounters with other females. The female then returns to her mate, and the two of them raise the babies which resulted from mom's "night on the town."

Traditionally, a (human) cuckold was the object of scorn and derision; when it was discovered that a man's wife had found fulfillment in another man's bed, she was an adulteress and he was her cuckold. It was often said that he "left with his tail between another man's legs."

 

The dictionary defines a cuckold as "a man with an unfaithful wife."

 

In the context of alternative lifestyles, the cuckold occupies a position somewhere between the traditional definition and that of "swingers." The difference with the first definition is that today's cuckold is both aware of his wife's "infidelity" and is sexually excited by it; the difference with the second definition is that "swingers" are mutually involved, or at least approach the sex bed as equals, which is not the case with a cuckold.

 

In plain English, a cuckold is a man who stands by and accepts his wife's infidelity, being sexually excited by her actions. He may have normal sexual relations with his wife part of the time, or he may accept that his wife has chosen another man to replace him completely in her sexual bed.

 

 

Why Would Someone Choose To Be Cuckolded? top

 

Having read (and written) extensively on this, I have found the following themes. Any combination may exist to explain a specific couple's relationship.

Submission

 

Being cuckolded is often a display of total submissiveness, with the added element being that at least one other person (the lover) knows of the cuckold's role. Cuckolds may take pleasure in serving their wife and, in some cases, her lover as well. If a person wishes to experience submission, bringing breakfast in bed to his wife and her lover would surely fit the bill; and if he wants to feel dominated by his wife, having her tell him to leave them alone so they could make love undisturbed would be almost unbearably exciting! In addition, the knowledge that she can do whatever she wants with regard to sex, while he is restricted to only what she approves for him, is probably the ultimate in submission: he turns over his genitals to her, while she offers no such commitment in return.

 

Humiliation

 

Many swingers and alternative-lifestyle adherents draw the line at humiliation, and reject it with disgust. Yet these same people will accept s&m as understandable! Humiliation is, in my opinion, simply mental s&m. Why would someone choose to be "disciplined," and find it to be sexually exciting? If you can understand that, you can understand the lure of humiliation as a sexual stimulus. And if a man seeks to be humiliated, what could be more humiliating than seeing, or hearing, or learning of his wife choosing another man to bed? If the experience includes the wife acknowledging that her lover is better endowed, or a better lover than her husband, the humiliation is complete.

 

Jealousy

 

Yes, jealousy is a turn-on for cuckolds. In fact, it is probably one of the greatest ones, though few cuckolds have written about it. After all, look what he has lost: his wife's faithfulness, his wife's body (temporarily, if not permananently), his equality as a sexual partner, his dignity... and all these have been given to another man! Personally, when I began to feel jealous, I began to feel truly cuckolded - and very excited!

 

Voyeurism

 

Though I think this is secondary to the two reasons above, it is true that there are not many opportunities in life to watch two people having sex. This is why home videos are so popular! But nothing can equal the real thing, life and in front of you... and so, inviting another man into your wife's bed will undoubtedly give you a front-row seat for the festivities.

 

Fear

 

One cuckold explained his excitement as "caused by the duality of being both afraid and excited. Fear is a powerful aphrodisiac... maybe my body requires a certain amount of adrenaline, which can only be generated by fear."

 

What is there to fear? A cuckold can fear (while being turned on by) the thought of being humiliated in front of his wife and her lover; he can fear being told he cannot cum for a specified (and lengthy) period of time. He can fear hearing sounds of pleasure from his wife that he never heard when she was in bed with him. Or, he can just fear the unknown...

 

The Unknown

 

Many cuckolds acknowledge that they have no idea why this turns them on, but for most of us, it is a sexual fantasy of the most overpowering variety. As I told my wife, I would rather watch her in bed with her lover than have sex with any woman on the face of the earth! So, like most sexual fantasy, we may be able to explain elements of the attraction, but we cannot explain it completely. Many cuckolds relate that they had no idea this turned them on, until their wife discussed a good looking man, or related the story of a man making a pass at her. Suddenly, the husband gets a distinct message from "another authority," and wonders what the hell is going on. THAT is a cuckold in the making!

 

 

Why Would A Wife Choose To Cuckold Her Husband? top

 

While there are women who simply cheat on their husbands, this is not part of our discussion, as it is not a mutual decision. If you find out that your wife is cheating on you, don't read this -- get to a marriage counselor, or a lawyer!

Many cuckolds describe years and years of asking their wife to have sex with another man. Usually, the wife opposes this, for several reasons. First, it goes against everything that was promised in the marriage vows, and she cannot believe that it will do anything but ruin her marriage. Second, it is often threatening to the wife, as she assumes it is a pretext for the husband to have sex with other women (if you both want to do that, have fun; you're back in the "swinger" category, and this site is not about you). Third, many wives -- especially once they are out of their 20's and no longer look like Barbie -- worry that no other man will find them attractive, and they do not want to set themselves up for a disappointment. Finally, they worry (with good reason) about all the mean, nasty stuff out there: bad people, bad vibes, bad diseases.

 

So, why do wives say yes? While some do it simply because their husbands are not satisfactory lovers, I believe that most begin (note that I said begin; the reasons change later) to satisfy their husband's burning desire to try this. Also, if they had few sexual experiences before marriage, they may be curious as to what else is out there, and if their sexual experiences have been somewhat tame, they wonder what all the talk is about!

 

Once the wife begins to see other men, it is another step -- and often, not an easy one -- to cuckold her husband. After all, she loves the guy! (If she does not love him, it's time to head for the marriage counselor or the lawyer again...) It is hard to believe that her husband really wants her to like her lover more, or at least to like sex with her lover more; it is even harder to believe that he really wants to hear that from his wife. Usually, this part begins very slowly, as the wife hesitatingly relates the pleasurable details of her tryst to her husband. She notices his outstanding (!) reaction to what she says, and notices that the more explicit she is, and the more she talks about her pleasure, the more hubby goes crazy. If her husband watches her in bed with her lover, she will be very hesitant to display her pleasure, until he makes it clear that he is very turned on by it!

 

So, why go through all this? In my wife's words, "I can have my cake and eat it, too." What could be bad for a woman who realizes that her husband will do everything he can to make sure she has great sex with her lover, and will welcome her home (often to a completely cleaned house ) when she is done!

 

And, back to the wife's initial worry that no other man could possibly find her attractive: imagine her surprise and delight when the nice looking, intelligent guy she meets is very turned on! Seeing him hard, feeling him get excited as she undresses, as she touches him, as he touches her... brings her right back to high school, but with an adult's understanding of what sex is all about. Does absolute wonders for a woman's ego!

 

 

What Is The Difference Between A Cuckold And A Man With A "Hot Wife"? top

 

Though you could certainly describe the cuckolder as a "hot wife," the difference, IMHO, lies in the original dictionary definition, "a man with an unfaithful wife." A woman crosses over the line into "unfaithful" not when she has sex with another man with her husband's consent, but when she prefers sex with her lover to sex with her husband -- and tells him so.

 

Major Cuckold Themes top

 

"He's bigger than you"

In spite of all the ads in men's magazines, we haven't found a way to change what God gives us. Few women marry a man because of the size of his penis, but much has been written about how good it feels to many women to be "filled completely." So, wifey goes searching (or the well-behaved cuckold searches for her) for a man who can measure up. Some women find a large penis to be painful or uncomfortable, but if she finds the experience to be fulfilling , hubby must recognize that there is no way on earth that he can offer her what her lover does. In our society, in which "bigger is better," it is truly humiliating for a man to see less between his own legs than he sees on the man between his wife's legs! Not to mention the conversations with her lover, who tells him how good his wife feels "deep inside," and then laughs at the fact that hubby can never, ever know what that feels like. In other words, this man feels parts of your wife's body that you can never touch -- so go sit in the corner, and listen to her make me cum with those places you can't touch!

 

"He's better than you"

 

Why wifey would want this is obvious -- what a surprise, after 5, 10 or 20 years of marriage, to learn that sex is more fun than you knew! And for cucky, the embarrassment is even greater than if her lover is bigger: at least if he is bigger, you can claim that there is nothing you can do about it. But if he is better -- especially if he is about the same size as cucky, then the plain truth is, "You are not such a good lover." (Actually, that's the diplomatic truth; the plain truth is that you're a lousy lover!)

 

Sally's lover -- the man who made her decide to cuckold me permanently -- is almost exactly my size. But when I asked her to give us each a grade, he got an A+; after making sure that I really wanted to hear the truth about myself, she said I am a C+. Now, when she and I make love, she will often sigh and tell me she wishes Ty was inside her instead. I would be very hurt by this, if I wasn't busy cumming!

 

"Don't Touch Me"

 

Here is a major difference between a Hot Wife and a cuckolding wife: Often, I read of husbands fucking their wives before they head out on a "date." Cuckolds hardly ever get to touch their wives before a "date," unless it is to clean her, dress her or apply her makeup! And, of course, this makes sense: if her husband really isn't much of a lover, then why would she want to ruin the mood, or take the edge off her anticipation? In my case, about four days before a "date," Sally stops allowing me to touch her or even to see her undressed; in her words, "I'm saving it for him."

 

In more extreme cases, where the wife has replaced her husband with another man (or men) on a permanent basis, her body may simply be off limits to him at all times. In these cases, the occasional glimpse of a breast or pubic hair can trigger spontaneous orgasm!

 

"Clean Up the House While I'm Gone"

 

If the husband acknowledges his sexual inferiority, he may fell compelled to try to make it up to his wife in any way possible. Therefore, he may be among the most obedient husbands on the planet! Remember, hubby gets off on his own sexual failings; therefore, cleaning the house, etc., only serves to remind him that he's doing this because he's not very good in bed. This may be one of the few times you see a man vacuuming with an erection .

 

Again, in my case, Sally only has to preface any request with, "Hey, C+...," and I jump to comply!

 

"I Want to Have His Baby"

 

I tend to believe that the vast majority of cuckold stories in which the lover impregnates the wife are fictional, though I could be wrong. After all, the couple will have to live with that decision for the rest of their lives. But certainly, if you want to feel that you have "lost" your wife to another man, having him impregnate her would probably do that in spades! I do not judge here, so I mention that a number of cuckolds are very turned on by finding their wife's birth control sitting on the dresser when she goes out.

 

 

Watching Or Waiting? top

 

There is a lot of discussion about which is more erotic: watching your wife in bed with another man, or waiting at home (or anywhere) while she goes off with him. Generally, the cuckold has little say in this; his wife will probably be more comfortable with one than the other, and that is what she will choose.

Seeing sex happen in front of you, and realizing - over and over again - that the woman you see in the throes of passion is your wife, is breathtaking. Even when you engage in sex, you don't get to witness it; seeing a man's penis slide in and out of a vagina is stimulating enough, but when it is your own wife's vagina, it is overwhelming. And watching (and hearing) orgasms... the same thing, in spades!

 

On the other hand, if the mind is the most powerful sex organ, there is much to be said for the cuckold who sits at home and masturbates, wondering what his wife and her lover are doing now (and now, and NOW, and...). If you thought teenage boys jerk off a lot, I assure you that they are amateurs compared to cucky in the sixth hour of waiting!

 

 

Cream Pie top

 

I would say that this has been talked about too much, if it weren't for how much it turns me (and most every other cuckold) on! Whether it is submission or humiliation, licking another man's semen from your wife's pussy is #1 on the hit parade. Why is that? I believe it is a combination of every male taboo rolled into one:

- Men aren't supposed to eat cum (well, straight men aren't...)

 

- Men are supposed to guard their wives' chastity/purity with their lives.

 

- Ejaculating in a woman is a strong symbol of possession, and seeing another man's semen in your wife's most private, intimate place is a clear sign that you are not the sole (or even primary) person in her life... or at least in her body.

 

- If there is any single thing that "proves" that your wife was unfaithful, it is the sight of semen dripping from her vagina, when you know you didn't put it there. Pornographers may be able to substitute liquid soap in pictures, but when you're face to face with the real thing, you know it.

 

- The only way for that semen to get in your wife was for her to bring him to orgasm. A creampie says, "Not only did she cuckold you, but she did it very well."

 

- Semen does not taste good; if you're lucky, it does not taste terrible. Licking it up - especially if it is a large amount - is very, very difficult, and emphasizes the humiliating nature of what your wife is doing to you.

 

- If you have to do it in front of the lover, while your wife is holding and kissing him, you will have your "place" made perfectly clear to all involved - especially if the two of them laugh at your difficulty swallowing all of it!

 

For all these reasons, most cuckolds find creampies to be among their most powerful fantasies and most erotic experiences.

 

 

A Note About "Slut Wives" top

 

There are those men who want their wives to be "sluts"; to sleep around to be indiscriminate, etc. I've seen very few cuckolds who express this wish, and I believe it has to do with our absolute respect for our wives. We don't mind being humiliated, but don't mess with our wife - that will turn us off faster than anything at all. So, again, correct me if I am wrong, but I think that very few cuckolds will ever refer to their wife as a slut (and if they do, it'll probably be a cold day in hell before they "get any" again!)

 

Pitfalls top

 

So, with all this good stuff, what's to worry? Plenty!

First of all, the couple had better have a wonderful, positive, open relationship. You are going to be playing for real here, and both of you have to be able to say what you are feeling, and to "bail out" at any point that it becomes unworkable or dangerous. In the words of one cuckold, "You and your wife must love each other very much. That love, trust, understanding and willingness to be open and honest must be there, or neither of you, nor your marriage in whatever shape it may take, will survive."

 

Sex is powerful; there's a reason advertisers use it! You cannot expect your wife to have sex with someone and not develop feelings for him (unless it is a terrible experience; see below). In fact, cuckolding is even more dangerous in this regard than "hot wife-ing" (is there such a phrase?), because the ultimate fantasy of the cuckold is that she will like her lover more than him! So, take it step by step. I have corresponded with many couples for whom it was a powerful fantasy, but as they took the first baby-steps toward making it real, they realized that they didn't like where it was going. I applaud them - we've got enough divorces.

 

"What are our limits?" is a question which should be asked and asked again. If you both love each other, and you are doing this to find a new kind of experience, then you should both be overwhelmed with concern for how the other is handling it, and whether the latest step is over the line. Women, there is a nearly-foolproof way to tell: it's called the Peter Meter! If you talk about actually meeting a man for the first time, or about going away with him on a cruise for a week, your husband's cock will tell you whether this is A Very Good Idea, or moving too fast!

 

Remember, especially, that once the wife has a lover, he does not "go away" like turning off a VCR. He is real, and his presence in your lives is real, too. As one cuckold said, "The humiliation is very real. It doesn't stop after you've jacked off three times. Her lover is still in the picture." So, folks, this is one you can't "take back"; you can stop, but you can't undo what you have done, or what you have said. If hubby doesn't want to live with the knowledge that his wife's lover is better, or that she longs to be with him, or that those three extra inches really do matter to her, then don't start.

 

Men, I can only give you the one suggestion which I've told Sally from day one: she has absolute veto power over anything, at any time. She can get up and walk out of a restaurant, or a hotel room, or a conversation; she can say she's done seeing someone; she can say something makes her uncomfortable; and in every case, I'll agree instantaneously. Once she understood that I really meant that (she was afraid she'd "disappoint me," but I explained that it's not my fantasy if she's not enjoying), it gave her the freedom to test her own limits.

 

Finally, let's be real: the Internet is wonderful, but all the dangers which apply to kids online apply to grownups, too. People are not always what they appear to be, and some are downright strange. Talk lots - lots - before agreeing to meet someone! Start with email, progress to ICQ or IM, and then talk on the phone. If you're worried about the other person having caller ID, buy a phone card and call from a pay phone! We strongly suggest a first-meeting dinner (remember, cuckolds always pick up the check!), with the absolute understanding that nothing other than dinner is going to happen that evening. This gives everyone a chance to meet and talk face-to-face, and gives wifey the chance to consider whether she wants to share her bed with this man. Making it a no-touch evening gives her the opportunity to say yes or no on her own, without him (or hubby) breathing down her neck.

 

And as they used to say on Hill Street Blues, "be careful out there." Cuckolds and cuckolders are usually regular people, with lives, jobs and children. You don't want your exploits on the front page of the local paper, do you? We strongly suggest using pseudonyms and false-everything until you get to know the other person very well. Hotmail, Yahoo, etc., offer anonymous email, and though we'd never want to be accused of suggesting anything dishonest, there isn't anything that actually requires you to tell the truth in signing up for your Hotmail or Yahoo account! We won't tell, if you won't.

 

 

Best Quotes From Cuckolds top

 

"Being a cuckold doesn't sound like something most men would be proud of."

"It is sometimes difficult for [my husband] when he has had to be sociable with a man he knows that I am sleeping with."

 

"There is nothing like the sounds my wife makes when she is in bed with her lover."

 

 

In Conclusion top

 

So, kids, that's the story! If you're interested in learning more, or if you want to correspond with a genuine cuckold (either for more information, or just for laughs), feel free to contact any of the people listed below. All have given permission to include their email addresses here.

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Many swingers and alternative-lifestyle adherents draw the line at humiliation, and reject it with disgust.

 

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

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Dito

 

In several threads I use to point out when I understand someone is attempting to "mix up" or "fade" cuckoldry and swinging, and I may become even harsh at this, from my own experience.

 

Personally, I have no problem with people who enjoys humilliation: it isn't my business and if it makes them happy... go for it!

 

Swingerland is often the playfield for cuckolds, or closet cuckolds (those who start swinging as an aproach to cuckoldry, and tastes the cucoldry waters among swingers). And again, I have no problem is the cuckold and his wife are upfront about what they're pursuing, i.e. someone to take the "better lover" role leading to the humilliation: you may decline the oferring, and most swingers would do it, dimishing the chances for these couples to get what they want inside this playfield... and this may lead them to be deceiving.

 

Either from deceiving on purpose, or because they're trying the waters, or even because they still doesn't know this is what they're pursuing... this become problematic for the swinger playmates. The cuckold may not be up to play with the other wife, or have his mind "somewhere else", deceiving her. The other husband would be taking this "humilliator" role, wheter he likes it or not, for example, even if he isn't aware of his role, in the middle of the action the other wife may slip a comment devised to her hubby, the cuckold, or the cuckold slip the same sort of comment. This coud lead to a very unconfortable situatuion for the other husband and his wife. If the playmates are new in the swinging arena, they could be misslead on what's swinging about, or the wife may "buy" the "humilliator" role his husband takes, even if just portrayed by the words of the cuckold and his wife, believing this is a new facet from her husband, one she dislikes because it doesn't meet the "equality among partners" prerequisite to swing.

 

A meeting between a swinger couple and a cuckold/wife couple easily can bring a pretty hard time for the swingers couple, right there, or afterwards, once alone, discussing everyone's behavior during the meeting... moreover if the swingers couple isn't aware of the existence of the cuckoldry as a lifestyle, because this lack of knowledge desn't help them understand what happend.

 

Because of this, I really appreciate the detailed, EXCELLENT description of what's cuckoldry about. I believe it is a MUST READ for everyone of us, able to help the potential cuckolds find out what really thrills them, able to help swingers find out the cuckoldry "behavioral patterns" should they meet a cuckold, as to know the risks and realize whatever odd happens was provoked by the other parties, and able to help both cuckolds and swingers understand the importance of being upfront about each others lifestyle (perhaps in order to be able to play without surprises).

 

So, thank you, subtoMistressT!

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Hi there, subtoMistressT.

 

 

It was often said that he "left with his tail between another man's legs."

 

..and if he wants to feel dominated by his wife, having her tell him to leave them alone so they could make love undisturbed would be almost unbearably exciting!

 

And if a man seeks to be humiliated, what could be more humiliating than seeing, or hearing, or learning of his wife choosing another man to bed? If the experience includes the wife acknowledging that her lover is better endowed, or a better lover than her husband, the humiliation is complete.

 

After all, look what he has lost: his wife's faithfulness, his wife's body (temporarily, if not permananently), his equality as a sexual partner, his dignity... and all these have been given to another man!

 

A cuckold can fear (while being turned on by) the thought of being humiliated in front of his wife and her lover; he can fear being told he cannot cum for a specified (and lengthy) period of time. He can fear hearing sounds of pleasure from his wife that he never heard when she was in bed with him.

 

As I told my wife, I would rather watch her in bed with her lover than have sex with any woman on the face of the earth!

 

In the setting and dynamics of swinging, where would this leave the other wife? How can this be related in any way to swinging?

 

So, why go through all this? In my wife's words, "I can have my cake and eat it, too." What could be bad for a woman who realizes that her husband will do everything he can to make sure she has great sex with her lover, and will welcome her home (often to a completely cleaned house ) when she is done!

 

My answer: to be turned on by a man, I need for him to be a man. In swinging, I want my husband there with me, not someplace else (at home) while I go off alone. Experiencing sexual pleasure together as a couple and our being together is the turn-on. I love to see him feeling good, he loves to see me feeling good. This is probably the case for the majority of swingers.

 

And, back to the wife's initial worry that no other man could possibly find her attractive: imagine her surprise and delight when the nice looking, intelligent guy she meets is very turned on! Seeing him hard, feeling him get excited as she undresses, as she touches him, as he touches her... brings her right back to high school, but with an adult's understanding of what sex is all about. Does absolute wonders for a woman's ego!

 

Women get this in swinging with none of the cuckolding. Men in swinging also experience the same reaction, women finding them attractive and it being an ego boost for them.

 

Major Cuckold Themes

 

"He's bigger than you"

...In our society, in which "bigger is better," it is truly humiliating for a man to see less between his own legs than he sees on the man between his wife's legs! Not to mention the conversations with her lover, who tells him how good his wife feels "deep inside," and then laughs at the fact that hubby can never, ever know what that feels like. In other words, this man feels parts of your wife's body that you can never touch -- so go sit in the corner, and listen to her make me cum with those places you can't touch!

 

This would be completely disastrous in a swinging setting if the people you're with aren't totally on board with this.

 

"He's better than you"

Why wifey would want this is obvious -- what a surprise, after 5, 10 or 20 years of marriage, to learn that sex is more fun than you knew! And for cucky, the embarrassment is even greater than if her lover is bigger: at least if he is bigger, you can claim that there is nothing you can do about it. But if he is better -- especially if he is about the same size as cucky, then the plain truth is, "You are not such a good lover." (Actually, that's the diplomatic truth; the plain truth is that you're a lousy lover!)

 

 

This would be completely disastrous in a swinging setting too, unless you're with likeminded people. Additionally, there is clearly an obsession here that equates the size of a penis with a better sexual experience for a woman. It's just not true for a great many women (including me).

 

Here is a major difference between a Hot Wife and a cuckolding wife: Often, I read of husbands fucking their wives before they head out on a "date." Cuckolds hardly ever get to touch their wives before a "date," unless it is to clean her, dress her or apply her makeup! And, of course, this makes sense: if her husband really isn't much of a lover, then why would she want to ruin the mood, or take the edge off her anticipation?

 

This is so very, very opposite of the mentality and motivations behind swinging. As a side note, I can't imagine my husband "cleaning me and dressing me" before we go out, let alone applying my makeup for me. This is all just completely off of my radar screen.

 

If the husband acknowledges his sexual inferiority, he may fell compelled to try to make it up to his wife in any way possible. Therefore, he may be among the most obedient husbands on the planet! Remember, hubby gets off on his own sexual failings; therefore, cleaning the house, etc., only serves to remind him that he's doing this because he's not very good in bed.

 

How can this mentality possibly work in swinging with couples? How can it work at all, except with a single dominant male? As the female half of a swinging couple, this turns me off entirely, both the male role and the female role in this. I would hate to even be in the same room with this dynamic going on in front of me. My husband feels the same way. We've talked before about how we'd feel if we ran into a couple like this in swinging (having read personals in swinging sites that sound something like this).

 

- Semen does not taste good; if you're lucky, it does not taste terrible. Licking it up - especially if it is a large amount - is very, very difficult, and emphasizes the humiliating nature of what your wife is doing to you.

 

- If you have to do it in front of the lover, while your wife is holding and kissing him, you will have your "place" made perfectly clear to all involved - especially if the two of them laugh at your difficulty swallowing all of it!

 

I think most couples would be mortified in the presence of this humiliation thing. My husband and I don't humiliate each other or ourselves. In fact, I feel that we both put each other on a pedestal, if anything. I feel proud and excited when he turns other women on and pleasures them. He feels the same way about me. (I believe this is pretty common in swinging.)

 

- I've seen very few cuckolds who express this wish, and I believe it has to do with our absolute respect for our wives. We don't mind being humiliated, but don't mess with our wife - that will turn us off faster than anything at all.

 

As a woman who respects my husband as much as he respects me, I would never stand to see him humiliated any more than you want to see your wife humiliated. Like you said, to cause humiliation to your mate would turn you off. In our case, we both feel that way about each other.

 

- Sex is powerful; there's a reason advertisers use it! You cannot expect your wife to have sex with someone and not develop feelings for him.

 

In our experience and from what we hear from many other swingers, we can and do have sex with others and not develop feelings for them. Not special attachment feelings.

 

Is anyone else out there into that.

 

All of the above would be a huge turn-off to us as a couple. If a couple such as that which you described here approached swinging and the swinger crowd without expressly and clearly sharing all these facts about their motivation, we're pretty sure that trouble would ensue. We would so not want to find ourselves in an encounter with a couple like this and discover this dynamic unfolding when we're engaged in activity with them. If you're seeking sexual connections in the swinger population, I just hope you're being very clear and honest, especially before anything physical happens.

 

Question for you: Do you swing with couples? If so, how can this work? Or do you connect with other BDSM couples who have the same interest, or the opposite interest (dominant male/humiliated female)?

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I use the "active topics" feature here, rather than the forums page that sorts the topics out into different categories. I just noticed after posting that this was in the "Fetishes" forum, so I apologize for responding to this as a general swinger.

 

I'll leave this topic to the fetishists. :)

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I'll leave this topic to the fetishists. :)

 

As the mod of these forums - and the least "fetished" person you will ever meet - I think your response is fine :)

 

It is a place where swingers can discuss fetishes. Sometimes that discussion is "why I'm not into that".

 

If the experience includes the wife acknowledging that her lover is better endowed, or a better lover than her husband, the humiliation is complete.

 

We couldn't get into this because this guy doesn't exist :hahaha:

 

Seriously, you will find that most swingers - while tolerant (I hope) of everyone's kinks and choices - enjoy swinging as a way to enhance and strengthen their relationship - not humiliate their partner.

 

Spoomonkey

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I'm just a hick Okie; I claim no expertise on fetishes, but Cuckolding doesn't sound like swinging to me. Come to think of it, it doesn't even sound like marriage.

 

Still, to each his own. I can only feel sympathy.

 

Mr. Alura

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TybeeSwing, I would not read that much into this. I only posted an example of what this lifestyle is to people who are into it. I think you judge to much. I am a bit surprised by some of the responses here given this is the fetish section. I am attempting to exchange information in this thread.

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Dito

 

In several threads I use to point out when I understand someone is attempting to "mix up" or "fade" cuckoldry and swinging, and I may become even harsh at this, from my own experience.

 

Personally, I have no problem with people who enjoys humilliation: it isn't my business and if it makes them happy... go for it!

 

Swingerland is often the playfield for cuckolds, or closet cuckolds (those who start swinging as an aproach to cuckoldry, and tastes the cucoldry waters among swingers). And again, I have no problem is the cuckold and his wife are upfront about what they're pursuing, i.e. someone to take the "better lover" role leading to the humilliation: you may decline the oferring, and most swingers would do it, dimishing the chances for these couples to get what they want inside this playfield... and this may lead them to be deceiving.

 

Either from deceiving on purpose, or because they're trying the waters, or even because they still doesn't know this is what they're pursuing... this become problematic for the swinger playmates. The cuckold may not be up to play with the other wife, or have his mind "somewhere else", deceiving her. The other husband would be taking this "humilliator" role, wheter he likes it or not, for example, even if he isn't aware of his role, in the middle of the action the other wife may slip a comment devised to her hubby, the cuckold, or the cuckold slip the same sort of comment. This coud lead to a very unconfortable situatuion for the other husband and his wife. If the playmates are new in the swinging arena, they could be misslead on what's swinging about, or the wife may "buy" the "humilliator" role his husband takes, even if just portrayed by the words of the cuckold and his wife, believing this is a new facet from her husband, one she dislikes because it doesn't meet the "equality among partners" prerequisite to swing.

 

A meeting between a swinger couple and a cuckold/wife couple easily can bring a pretty hard time for the swingers couple, right there, or afterwards, once alone, discussing everyone's behavior during the meeting... moreover if the swingers couple isn't aware of the existence of the cuckoldry as a lifestyle, because this lack of knowledge desn't help them understand what happend.

 

Because of this, I really appreciate the detailed, EXCELLENT description of what's cuckoldry about. I believe it is a MUST READ for everyone of us, able to help the potential cuckolds find out what really thrills them, able to help swingers find out the cuckoldry "behavioral patterns" should they meet a cuckold, as to know the risks and realize whatever odd happens was provoked by the other parties, and able to help both cuckolds and swingers understand the importance of being upfront about each others lifestyle (perhaps in order to be able to play without surprises).

 

So, thank you, subtoMistressT!

You make some great points here and I am glad you have enough of an open mind to understand that all forms of sexual excitement general run on a continuum. Some people closer at one end than at another. I see this in discussions about bi-sexuality. You find that people will fall in at many points on this continuum, for example, some men and women are fully bi-sexual and enjoy enjoy sex with same sex partners. Others only dabble to please their partners, or maybe they are bi-curious. Some have fantasies of bi-sexual experiences but would never act on the issue, nor admit to their partners that they have such thoughts. I think it is an interesting discussion that explores these continuums. Same goes for cuckolding.

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I use the "active topics" feature here, rather than the forums page that sorts the topics out into different categories. I just noticed after posting that this was in the "Fetishes" forum, so I apologize for responding to this as a general swinger.

 

I'll leave this topic to the fetishists. :)

:lol:

Thanks for your response. This was a cut and paste quick way for me to describe an example of a form of fetish play. Cuckolding is nothing more than that to us. A form of role playing, not a "lifestyle" per se as this extreme example describes. Isn't that what we consider a fetish?

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I am a bit surprised by some of the responses here given this is the fetish section.

 

To be fair - this is a fetish section of the Swingers Board. Because of that, this section is not limited to fetishists - nor will the responses be only from those who share your interests.

 

It is better to see this as a place to discuss how swingers feel about certain fetishes. Posting a question about a particular fetish is going to elicit that type of response - and historically, you will not find a lot of cuckolding folks around here. In the same spirit as "exchanging information" folks are free to exchange impressions and opinions. The freedom to do so makes this a much better place.

 

There is no need to scold each other for not seeing eye to eye.

 

Spoomonkey

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Hi there, subtoMistressT.

 

All of the above would be a huge turn-off to us as a couple. If a couple such as that which you described here approached swinging and the swinger crowd without expressly and clearly sharing all these facts about their motivation, we're pretty sure that trouble would ensue. We would so not want to find ourselves in an encounter with a couple like this and discover this dynamic unfolding when we're engaged in activity with them. If you're seeking sexual connections in the swinger population, I just hope you're being very clear and honest, especially before anything physical happens.

 

Question for you: Do you swing with couples? If so, how can this work? Or do you connect with other BDSM couples who have the same interest, or the opposite interest (dominant male/humiliated female)?

I would submit to you that you appear to have a very narrow view of swinging. I respect your view. We have been swinging for over 25 years and I assure you this is not something that happens when we connect with other couples. There are many forms of swinging and group sexual experiences. Some people consider having sex in the same room with your life-partners a form of swinging. Let me just say that there are times and places for roll play. Many people find experiencing first hand B&D experiences to be a huge turn off. Yet we have been to mainstream swing clubs where there is almost always a room set aside for such play. Not everyone's cup of tea even though the rooms always seem to be occupied on a busy night. Plenty of people lurk on the fringes attempting to see and catch a bit of this play, exciting to them but they would never consider the possibility of participating. Same would go for cuckolding play. Just because a couple dabbles in some form of a fetish does not mean that is their lifestyle as they take their children to school and go to work each day. You sound to be a very judgmental person for someone who participates in swinging.

 

Now to your questions:

1. Yes we do swing with other couples and single men and women as well.

2. Role playing with a cuckolding experience is something reserved for only those who are interested in such play. Outside of that nothing exists.

3. Don't mix B&D-S&M with "humiliation", those are different subjects which may overlap in some cases and in other cases be a long way from each other.

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Thanks for your response. This was a cut and paste quick way for me to describe an example of a form of fetish play. Cuckolding is nothing more than that to us. A form of role playing, not a "lifestyle" per se as this extreme example describes. Isn't that what we consider a fetish?

 

Because you use "sub" and "mistress" in your online persona/self-description/handle, I would take that to mean that being subservient to a mistress (cuckholding) is a big part of who you are. I would take that to mean it's more of a lifestyle for you than just a casual & occasional role play. In other posts on unrelated topics, you refer to your wife as "Mistress", so that seems to say that you think of her that way all of the time.

 

To me, this would mean that if we were to get together as couples, your D/s preferences as a couple would most likely be strongly evident in a sexual setting that involves other people. Since my husband and I are wired very differently to the point that your preferences would turn us off and be disturbing to us, we wouldn't take that chance.

 

I remember being approached by a D/s couple in which the guy was the master and the wife was the "slave". They were trying to talk us into meeting with them, saying they could be with people and just withhold that side of themselves. I doubted it, because everything from their handle/persona to their entire profile was all about their fetish/lifestyle. It was pretty clear that was their major motivation. This is why I asked the question in the end of your post about the kinds of couples you play with, asking if you let them know all about your level of interest in cuckholding and D/s, and how swinging with "vanilla" swingers actually works out for you (if it does). Or, if you stay with couples with the same sexual preferences you have. I'd be interested to hear & learn something about how that works (or doesn't work).

 

You seemed to have taken offense to my post. Even though I likely wouldn't have replied if I'd noticed before I started that I was in the "fetishes" forum, there's nothing inherently wrong with my questions because the section is just one small part of a general swinger's board. The big majority of your audience here are "just swingers" (what BDSM folks refer to as vanilla). It's only natural that we vanilla swingers would reply to that and have a variety of responses, including curious questions. ;)

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Again you sound very judgemental. I really don't have a problem with your responses. But you do not sound from me to be a very open minded individual when it comes to others peoples ideas about what turns them on. We have used "sub" and "Mistress" as part of our on-line communication for so many years it is really more of a historical notion. Peace.

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I see you were already answering my questions while I was still typing. So goes it on the 'net!

 

I don't see why you find me so "judgmental". I never said your choices are wrong. Yes, of course I know there are many different styles in swinging. You mentioned soft-swing (people who only have sex with their own mate in front of others). I respect that choice, too. I think there's something for everybody. My point is that not all styles mix well in the sense of couples getting together, and that when the style is cuckholding, this is especially going to be true of a lot of couples.

 

I admittedly haven't been in a lot of on-premise clubs (only because of location/distance issues). Of the ones we've been in or have read the club's website in anticipation of visiting, we haven't experienced any with a serious room for BDSM activities. We know of one that has a room with a gynecologist's table in it, but I don't think that counts, does it? I actually find that one a joke - I don't know of any women who think that annual visit is fun or sexy. :lol:

 

I would submit to you that you appear to have a very narrow view of swinging.

 

My "view" of swinging is that there are many flavors - as many flavors as there are individuals and their fantasies. I accept that there are plenty of activities out there under the banner of swinging, including things I have no interest or desire to participate in. This is not a narrow view.

 

I think you're confusing "view" with "preferences". What I have shared about myself and my husband is expressing our preferences in swinging. One's sexual preferences and interests are not indicative of their general overall view of a topic. You have your preferences (I respect that), and we have ours.

 

People who are narrow-minded and judgmental don't ask questions, because they think they already know it all, or that their way is the only way. Curious people who want to learn something of others ask questions.

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I see you were already answering my questions while I was still typing. So goes it on the 'net!

 

I don't see why you find me so "judgmental". I never said your choices are wrong. Yes, of course I know there are many different styles in swinging. You mentioned soft-swing (people who only have sex with their own mate in front of others). I respect that choice, too. I think there's something for everybody. My point is that not all styles mix well in the sense of couples getting together, and that when the style is cuckholding, this is especially going to be true of a lot of couples.

 

I admittedly haven't been in a lot of on-premise clubs (only because of location/distance issues). Of the ones we've been in or have read the club's website in anticipation of visiting, we haven't experienced any with a serious room for BDSM activities. We know of one that has a room with a gynecologist's table in it, but I don't think that counts, does it? I actually find that one a joke - I don't know of any women who think that annual visit is fun or sexy. :lol:

 

 

 

My "view" of swinging is that there are many flavors - as many flavors as there are individuals and their fantasies. I accept that there are plenty of activities out there under the banner of swinging, including things I have no interest or desire to participate in. This is not a narrow view.

 

I think you're confusing "view" with "preferences". What I have shared about myself and my husband is expressing our preferences in swinging. One's sexual preferences and interests are not indicative of their general overall view of a topic. You have your preferences (I respect that), and we have ours.

 

People who are narrow-minded and judgmental don't ask questions, because they think they already know it all, or that their way is the only way. Curious people who want to learn something of others ask questions.

Ok. :cool:

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All of the above would be a huge turn-off to us as a couple. If a couple such as that which you described here approached swinging and the swinger crowd without expressly and clearly sharing all these facts about their motivation, we're pretty sure that trouble would ensue. We would so not want to find ourselves in an encounter with a couple like this and discover this dynamic unfolding when we're engaged in activity with them. If you're seeking sexual connections in the swinger population, I just hope you're being very clear and honest, especially before anything physical happens.

 

Question for you: Do you swing with couples? If so, how can this work? Or do you connect with other BDSM couples who have the same interest, or the opposite interest (dominant male/humiliated female)?

 

This is preciselly what I meant to point out in my previous post.

 

Now to your questions:

1. Yes we do swing with other couples and single men and women as well.

2. Role playing with a cuckolding experience is something reserved for only those who are interested in such play. Outside of that nothing exists.

 

I am glad to know. This fits my deffinition of what's to be "upfront", however, I wonder how much of the cuckoldry slips from you when you swing (and I suppose you mean to say, with couples unaware of the cuckolding). I mean, if you're used to address your wife as your Mistress for years, are you sure you're able to isolate this to preserve the couple playing with you from a bad time, as the examples given by Tybee Swing?

 

In my previous post (and in any other post where I suspect there is some cuckoldry involved) I claim to say what I say because of my personal experience. Here it goes:

 

One of the first couples we meet in local chatrooms when learning what's swinging about were known "swingers" (meaning, well known among swingers at clubs and so), but it turned out for me they were into cuckoldry. I knew of cuckoldry from before, so luckily for me I didn't gave this guy credit when "teaching" me about swinging. Even more, this guy wasn't aware of the "cuckoldry lifestyle" existence, at all, until I suggested him to goole it.

 

Now, some time later, his wife got pregnant. This guy began a "teasing" game in those chat rooms, among swingers who already played with them in regular basis, suggesting he wasn't the kid father, but one of the playmates. Evidently, this "game" was very arousing to him, and unaware people even got into the game by pulling his leg about who could be the father. It reached a point where this was too bold even for the wife, for the way this guy was making public this version (even when she always enrused and reasured her husband is this kid father). I didn't want to be in the shoes of the couples who arelady played with them, and the whole scenario, as an hypostesis of what may happen to us in the future, almost convinced us swinging didn't worth those risks. Of course, luckily we find out pretty fast this couple was an exception.

 

Anyway, we've meet another couple we started playing with, where it turned out this guy was a closet cuckold, pretending everyone around him to take the roles we was looking for: a "hot wife" abusive and a lover becoming the humilliating tool... those would be this guy wife and myself, and for my wife there was no role: the guy played the seduction game with her, i.e. soft swinging, and had "issues" in order to avoid the intercourse with my wife, and since his wife and myself were "ahead" of them, playing "harder", the whole situation lead to an scene monted by this guy, provoking his wife by treating her as a whore in front of us, in such a way he was the victim and obvioulsy enjoying the whole scene, whith a wife who didn't get what this guy wanted (to be humillated.), thus feeling hurt from being misstreated this way in front of others (us), while my wife and me witnessed the discussion, where I was portrayed as such a lover, thus compelling me to provide an explanation about my supposed behavior with the other wife... and luckily it was my wife who realized what was going on as to straighten up the situation with his words, asking me to calm down, and calling off the night. The whole scene went even worst, because as a closet cuckold, once trying the waters of the humilliation, he got really angry against his wife, like blaming on her for the humilliation, attempting to portray me in some other way, as "another" puppet in this supposedly "evil" wife's hands. Luckily we're resilent enough as to give swinging another chance after this experience, because I am sure a lot of couple would have run away from swinging.

 

So, the problem isn't about those who already know they like cuckoldry, but about those who are confussed about the whole thing, the guys seeking for the humilliation and for the precise degree of humilliation... because if it goes just one notch beyond a threeshold, the guy would feel compelled to recover his "dignity", often in aggresive ways towards everyone involved.

 

I have to say, also, that we know a lot of people from the BDSM community here, we have friends, we share servers for chatrooms so they often come to chat into swinger's channels and vice versa, they come to our meetings, we go to their meetings. I know of several D/s couples made of Master/sub or Misstress/sub, and everyone have a great time because they're not imposing us to take a role as part of their D/s activities.

 

So, sobtoMistressT, you can say I am as much judgamental as Tybee Swing is, just in my case I have grounded motivations to be judgamental, to claim I don't want to play with cuckolds, and to advice against swingers playing with cuckolds UNLESS everyone involved knows about the consecuences or eventual consecuences.

 

As Spoo said, being in the fetishes section doesn't relieve you from the rest of the board oppinions. However, I'd like this thread to gahter the experiences from cuckods and their Mistresses, from their own perspective, because this will give the rest of us a measure of what they expect from people when playing their own games.

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This is preciselly what I meant to point out in my previous post.

 

That sounds like a pretty bad experience for everyone involved. We would never do that that to anyone. I am sorry that the couple was not upfront with you. I would have been more pissed off than disappointed if someone were to decieve us in such a manner.

 

How you ever jumped to me being not able to be subject to opinions is a bit unfair. I never made any such claim. I did however point out that I thought tha TS was making some pretty harsh judgements.

 

I am not interested in "playing games" with other peoples emotions, or using them for personal gain in some senerio involving a guise of "swinging". As I have said earlier, we have been involved in this for quite a few years and are well aware of the general ground rules. Enough of this has been said already. Have a good one.

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I am not interested in "playing games" with other peoples emotions, or using them for personal gain in some senerio involving a guise of "swinging". As I have said earlier, we have been involved in this for quite a few years and are well aware of the general ground rules.

 

I understood your position. Perhaps I wasn't able to point out a difference I think it's critic for this... thread hihack (I know and I appoligize). I believe people who are openly into cuckoldry, who already knows pretty well what they want from their playmates, are very likely to be upfront about their tastes: I guess they want to get to the point as much as swingers does, they avoid unwanted drama as much as swinger does, and they're able to tell appart what's involved when doing the cuclding stuff from what's invoved when swinging (when they swing, as in your case), so I have no problems with them.

 

In the other hand, I believe swinging is the front door for the "closet" cuckolds (or the ones lurking about cuckoldry), and once there, the arena where they discover those things arousing them but "odd" for the swingers, that could lead to a bad experience for ALL the involved parties. Notice that even inside this board, there are experienced swingers who were unaware of the cuckoldry as a lifestyle with it own features as to recognize them in the playfield, and this is more likely to happen for the less experienced ones.

 

Because of this I apreciate your detailed post: it may help the "closet" cuckolds to better understand themselves and their tastes as to be able to enjoy while avoiding dramas, and also swingers to understand there exist behaviors that resembles the ones swingers have, while featuring those details that could lead to an unwanted drama of a nature they're not even aware of.

 

Moreover, I am wondering if this whole cuckoldry subject doesn't deserve it own section, much the same way Poloamory did, just because of the lot of resemblances with swinging, and the crucial differences.

 

I'd like this thread to get back to your original question, as to learn from people inside this lifestyle about all of this.

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Moreover, I am wondering if this whole cuckoldry subject doesn't deserve it own section, much the same way Poloamory did, just because of the lot of resemblances with swinging, and the crucial differences.

 

I'd like this thread to get back to your original question, as to learn from people inside this lifestyle about all of this.

 

The link between swinging and ployamory is pretty obvious. When couples are involved I'm sure to most outsiders they would have a hard time telling the difference. A large number of swingers are looking for friends while swinging, replace friends with lovers and there ya have it.

 

On the other hand cuckoldry is only linked to swinging in that someone else is having sex with your wife and your knowledge. Everything else, is truly completely different. Its not swinging (and I have no problem being judgemental).

 

If the swingers board was to become a general sex talk board, then cuckolds could have their own section, but the name of the board itself should be changed.

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The link between swinging and ployamory is pretty obvious. When couples are involved I'm sure to most outsiders they would have a hard time telling the difference. A large number of swingers are looking for friends while swinging, replace friends with lovers and there ya have it.

 

On the other hand cuckoldry is only linked to swinging in that someone else is having sex with your wife and your knowledge. Everything else, is truly completely different. Its not swinging (and I have no problem being judgemental).

 

If the swingers board was to become a general sex talk board, then cuckolds could have their own section, but the name of the board itself should be changed.

There are plenty of "cuckhold" forums and boards out there. I see for the people into cuckolding see it as an extension of, not exclusive from, swinging. For the puritain swingers out there who are dogmatic in their expectations they may disagree. But the further you get into the swinging lifestyle the more that you see there are variations on the theme. Rather than exclude people with differences we shouldn't we see that they are of the same cloth, just not one that we would all be in agreement on in experiencing? I can certainly expect at least that among people. How about this, you go into a club and there are some really overweight people there. That somatotype turns you and or your partner off. You decline a hook up. Now is it not because you have a difference in what turns you on or off? I know this is a bit of a simplistic example, but there are many variations on the theme of "swinging". No?

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On the other hand cuckoldry is only linked to swinging in that someone else is having sex with your wife and your knowledge. Everything else, is truly completely different. Its not swinging (and I have no problem being judgemental).

 

If the swingers board was to become a general sex talk board, then cuckolds could have their own section, but the name of the board itself should be changed.

 

Well, one of the purposes of this board is to allow us all to learn about swinging.

 

For the curious people who want to jump in, this place tells them what's swinging about, and (at least it should tell as well) what it ISN'T about. As you said, the only link between the two lifestyles is that someone else is having sex with your wife (with your consent), and for most vanilla people this is enough to deem this as just swinging. So, I believe it is important for them to understand the differences, moreover when these curious guys still may not know wich lifestyle to choose.

 

For the (more experienced) swingers, this place help us deal with new scenarios, to enhance our experiences, and to stay away from troubles. It is important to be aware of how other people perceive us, what they want from us, wheter they're other swingers, they're cuckolds, they're into BDSM, they're just vanilla, or whatever flavor you choice, as to understand where are the risk we'd take care of.

 

We accept post of vanilla people, lurkers, and even trolls, just because these may lead to interesting discussions and, perhaps, perspectives we didn't notice from inside the lifestyle, but we should ban cuckolds just because some of us were not tolerant to their behavior, or because some of us know they impose some threats, forbidding others to have their own opinions? I don't think so.

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Well, one of the purposes of this board is to allow us all to learn about swinging.

 

For the curious people who want to jump in, this place tells them what's swinging about, and (at least it should tell as well) what it ISN'T about. As you said, the only link between the two lifestyles is that someone else is having sex with your wife (with your consent), and for most vanilla people this is enough to deem this as just swinging. So, I believe it is important for them to understand the differences, moreover when these curious guys still may not know wich lifestyle to choose.

 

For the (more experienced) swingers, this place help us deal with new scenarios, to enhance our experiences, and to stay away from troubles. It is important to be aware of how other people perceive us, what they want from us, wheter they're other swingers, they're cuckolds, they're into BDSM, they're just vanilla, or whatever flavor you choice, as to understand where are the risk we'd take care of.

 

We accept post of vanilla people, lurkers, and even trolls, just because these may lead to interesting discussions and, perhaps, perspectives we didn't notice from inside the lifestyle, but we should ban cuckolds just because some of us were not tolerant to their behavior, or because some of us know they impose some threats, forbidding others to have their own opinions? I don't think so.

Thanks for the more open minded response.

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A very interesting question. To me the big distinction is between being a real cuckold and being a pretend cuckold.

 

Years ago, my wife apparently was unhappy with our relationship. I thought everything was OK, but I was being very unobservant. There was a man that she worked with that flirted with her and made her feel sexy. Our kids were young and we both chipped in to take care of them and I think she felt more like a mommy around our home, and less of a hottie.

 

The flirting grew and she eventually hooked up with him at an office Christmas party that was being held at a local hotel. I was home watching the kids. They ended up in his room having sex. They had at least several more liaisons in hotels after that. I eventually found out about it and the shit hit the fan. It's a miracle that we didn't break up. I was so unbelievably hurt. I was a real cuckold.

 

Eventually I came to understand that her needs were not being met. I had to let go of the idea that she was mine. We decided to get into the swinging lifestyle. We love each other very much but both wanted to experience other people. We met mostly other couples, and occasionally single women or single guys. We were always together even if sometimes in separate rooms.

 

Years later, my wife had an opportunity to get together with another guy without me being there. We discussed the idea. She was concerned that it would bring up bad memories. But I had control of the situation this time. This time, my permission was given. I got a rush of excitement when she told me all about her adventure after it happened. It was a totally different experience this time. I enjoyed playing the cuckold. Maybe it was extra exciting to me since it was in a way an opportunity to gain control of the cuckolding experience. I was able to turn one of the worst experiences of my life into a game and then have fun with it. I'm sure a psychologist would have a field day with my way of dealing, but I don't care. I could never have left her, and this works for us.

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Cuckholding:

 

What Is A Cuckold?

 

WOW! Sometimes things just happen without thinking. Those are usually the best times. The "what did I do?" the next morning can be referred to your excellent analytical post.

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I loved being the cuckold. My wife would swing with a male

partner at an on site club. I would sometimes watch, and other

times would wait for the action to finish. I found it hot to

eat my wife out after she was cream filled.

 

When we were home, my wife had a number of liaisons

with men she found attractive. Three or four times we

had a MFM and they were really erotic.

 

Eventually we worked out a program where she played

Sunday mornings while I had the kids out to play.

 

I loved coming home to a filled cunny, and to her

stories. The Sunday morning series lasted more than

a year. Eventually she went off for a three day

weeke4nd at Harpers Ferry with her lover.

 

I like that my wife is hot and active. I wish she got

cream even more often.

 

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I loved being the cuckold. My wife would swing with a male

partner at an on site club. I would sometimes watch, and other

times would wait for the action to finish. I found it hot to

eat my wife out after she was cream filled.

 

When we were home, my wife had a number of liaisons

with men she found attractive. Three or four times we

had a MFM and they were really erotic.

 

Eventually we worked out a program where she played

Sunday mornings while I had the kids out to play.

 

I loved coming home to a filled cunny, and to her

stories. The Sunday morning series lasted more than

a year. Eventually she went off for a three day

weeke4nd at Harpers Ferry with her lover.

 

I like that my wife is hot and active. I wish she got

cream even more often.

 

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i'v been told my fantasies are very weird

 

 

1. i want my wife to dress like a hooker and wallkd own the street and for me to pick herup and fuck herin a hotel or maybe even she ges picked up andg ives head to a astranger

 

 

2. I want her to worship a bit penis..just fully worship it

 

3. I want her to be a complete slut...i want her to get used by strangers

 

4. but most of all I want to see her do a line of cocain off someones penis and forever think aboutthat and crave that

 

 

i want her to lose all contrl and let lust ake over... i want her to be ok with giving a stranger a blowjob in a dirty bar bathroom

 

 

i am crazy lol

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