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This is a discussion on "Bad Boobs" ... Defined within the Self Esteem / Attraction / Fear of Rejection forums, part of the Archives category; Ok, people ... apparently there is some need for clarification of my use of the term "bad boobs". Here ...
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 662 Location: Dallas TX Area Status: Couple | Ok, people ... apparently there is some need for clarification of my use of the term "bad boobs". Here goes: You have good boobs and bad boobs. Yes, I suppose that it is entirely subjective and open to opinionated interpretation, however, I wish to stipulate, for the record, that I am the owner of "bad boobs". What is my definition of "bad boobs" you ask? I am 36 years old, have been told that I look quite a bit younger than my true age. I could stand to lose from 10-20 pounds, I guess, but I have a decent figure ... IN CLOTHES. It's when the clothes come off that I HATE to remove my bra. I can't even stand to put my makeup on, brush my teeth, or stand in front of the mirror naked. No, it's not the extra belly flab that I need to shed that is so repulsive ... it is the boobs. Nipples pointing south, more full at the bottom than at the top, displaced lower on my chest than they should be. Yes, it's age and gravity and the hazard that comes with being the possessor of large breasts from puberty ... doesn't mean I gotta like it! And, believe me, I DO NOT! When hubby and I first met, the very first time we had sex (our second date, actually ), I insisted that I keep my bra on during the entire interlude. I just wasn't ready for him to see my breasts fall back into my armpits as I lay on my back. Now, seven years later, I am still not thrilled about that although I will now allow him to see me naked. lol In fact, he caught onto my body shame during our first interlude and even stated, "I don't like to be with women who are ashamed of their bodies" Yikes .... well, he's still around so I guess he decided to live with my shame. So I hope I gave you a good visual of why I consider MY breasts to be "bad boobs", and I hope it answers any questions some of you have had. ![]()
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,035 Location: Michigan Status: Single Male Swing Lifestyle Name:ABSingleMan | uh, single guy here, so I don't have the married perspective...yet. I'm not a breast man myself, but to me, the only "bad boobs" are the artificial ones where I want to sue the plastic surgeon that did them. I know this is about your comfort level, but by the time the average guy gets to the point where he might see them, he is more concerned about making sure you enjoy yourself with him so he gets to see them a second (and third and tenth and 100 and hopefully 1000th time) than what they look like. Men are shallow. Once the clothes come off, all women are beautiful, and we like looking at beautiful things. And if you want us to look, that makes you even more beautiful. ????where did that come from????
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 662 Location: Dallas TX Area Status: Couple | Quote:
ES: It came from another thread where people didn't understand how I could possibly have "bad boobs" .... just clarifying. And I do appreciate your perspective! ![]()
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 201 Location: Walla Walla, WA | Yes, as you get older, you learn that boobs are not much use except for the six to twenty four months that you actually nurse a baby with them. And you also learn that small boobs have advantages over the big ones. And that sometimes it is sexier to have boobs remain in a bra than to have them loose and jiggling. Perfect is a small 34 or 36 B. I actually think the nipples and aureolae can make boobs more sexy than the size. I also think for women over 35, that boobs mainly hold up a dress. It is funny, buy the fixation on boobs from the mid teens for boys is replaced by enjoying legs, tummies, thighs, etc. Also, there are just a variety of muffs out there. Some are sexy and some are not. Otto |
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| Canadian, eh? Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,620 Location: Kingston, ON Status: Couple Swing Lifestyle Name:intuition897 | It's a funny coincidence actually, I just changed my avatar. I figured everyone had been subjected to looking at my ass for quite some time, I'd change the scenery. As a comiserator of the gravity-challenged, I understand what you're saying completely txduo. I've had a D-cup since grade 9, and with time and kids, all things head south. I think I developped a kind of paranoia about my chest when a (clueless idiot of a) highschool boyfriend actually made fun of me. I didn't have much of a sense of humour about it. In my opinion, my boobs only look good anymore if they're poured into the right bra. Mr. disagrees (of course, he's a guy, and he has to say nice things to me because he's married to me.. lol) but I've always wished I had the kind of boobs you could wear strapless outfits with, or all those pretty bras that are supposed to fit D-cups but have zero support. But it's either un-marred boobs that don't quite stand at attention or scars up and down them that look like zippers. I think I'll just leave things be and not push my luck.
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 210 Location: central NY Status: couple | If you are so strongly affected and your breasts are not to your liking, a good plastic surgeon can do a reduction that may satisfy you. First, I would really determine if there is any true aberration or health risk that goes beyond your own (mis?)perception of your body. Dysmorphia is one's idea of their body appearing to them as something others do not see. For example, a man with 18 inch biceps not wearing short sleeves due to thinking his arms are too skinny, or a thin women thinking herself fat. If you are so thoroughly dissatisfied, the reduction can be pursued. If you sit back and consider how important this is to you, the decision may be an easy one. How does your SO feel about this? Does it affect your day to day life? Are there health issues related to your breasts that you are suffering from? In the end, it is all up to you and your own happiness. In most people's eyes, the human body comes in all shapes and sizes, all beautiful and unique in their own way. |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 662 Location: Dallas TX Area Status: Couple | Quote:
Yes, I wondered if I might hear from you, Intuition. Glad of it. I know you had related your own anecdotes about your own challenges with your boobs in other posts, but as we were all only seeing your ass, I never noticed. Funny you changed your avatar the same week I did. lol I would love a reduction, however, I cannot afford it. And though I have had back problems, they are not consistently documented so as to justify an insurance covered procedure. I am only 5'2" so my DD breasts are really out of proportion, in my opinion, with the rest of my body. I would be great as a C. As for being "poured into the right bra" ... I am sooo WITH you there, sister! You know what I hate ... having to PUT them into the bra .... you know, grab hold and pull it up over the underwire so that it rests in the cup, then adjust them so that the nipples are pointing the same direction after they are settled into the cups. Do you get what I am saying here????? Do all of you see why these are BAD???????? And why can't they make pretty DD bras without 14 hooks down the back? Why can't they just make pretty DD bras, period???? Why do I have to buy the Grandma Special 18 Hour Playtex Support with 14 hooks down the back and pointy cups with layers upon layers of that old lady lace in order to get a good and accurate fit over the Twins????? So, I suffer and buy my bras in the largest size that the pretty ones come in and just wrestle the Twins into it, adjust them so that there is not too much side bulge, fix the nipples to face the same direction and adjust throughout the day as they start to slip. Yes, people ... they are BAD BOOBS!!!!! No, my husband doesn't complain. He likes me just the way I am. He tells me he loves my boobs, but I certainly do not expect him to come out and say he hates them, even if he did. :rollseyes I want Playboy boobs!!!! lol
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| South of disorder Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,913 Location: Utah Status: Male half of married couple | Okay, on the other end of the spectrum is Mrs. WS, who wishes hers were larger. She has B-cup breasts and feels she would look more proportioned with D-cups. She would like to get them augmented. Personally, I prefer natural breasts because of how they feel, and I love how they lay when a woman is on her back. Fake breasts don't fall to the side like they should. I guess that is why I am attracted to plushie women to begin with (I gravitate toward size 12 - 18 women )txduo, I know you don't like you breasts much, but from what you've described, I'd be in heaven with them. Mr. WS
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 662 Location: Dallas TX Area Status: Couple | LOL >>> WesternSwing. You really make me laugh. Yes, from what you say, you would LOVE my "bad boobs" ![]() I especially love your "favorite quote" line ... why in the world would your 11 year old think your 3 year old smelled like a taco???? It reminds me of something my oldest daughter said when she was three (she is now 17). I had just gotten some film developed and on the roll was a picture of my oldest daughter sitting on the potty, panties around her ankles and her eyes closed. I loved what she said so much that I wrote it on the back of the photo for remembrance sake: "Hers taking a nap on the potty with her shoes on and ready to go to McDonald's" Kids are so funny. ![]()
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| South of disorder Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,913 Location: Utah Status: Male half of married couple | Well, it goes like this. Our 11-year old is a born performer (so is Mrs. WS) so she comes up with some of the most random stuff sometimes. In this case, we had tacos for dinner, and I guess the 3-year old's hair smelled like it. So when she was cuddling her after she fell out of bed I guess she could smell it. It was random, though. Mrs. WS and I didn't stop laughing for a half hour. How she got from falling out of bed to smelling like tacos, I'll never know.Mr. WS
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 171 Location: CA Status: Single Male | Those aren't "bad boobs", Mrs Txduo. Those are a woman's boobs. There are plenty of us guys out there that recognize that, regardless of size or shape, women's boobs have much to recommend them over those of girls. While a woman may have boobs that've sagged, and women with larger breasts may be far more sensitive to the effects gravity has had on them, those of us men who appreciate women recognize that experience more than makes up for any physical changes. As I said in another thread here just moments ago, "'Sexy' is attitude, not attributes". And there, real women, whether they think they have "bad boobs" or not, have it all over the idealized playboy model types. So, in one guy's opinion, do what makes ya comfortable, but don't be upset because you think guys won't appreciate what you've got. Plenty will appreciate you for just who you are. |
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| mildly abnormal | I have a boob issue too! I lost a bunch of weight and was left with saggy boobs. Not something most of my friends can identify with as I'm only 24. I did complain about it to a play buddy once saying I would prefer them to be more... "up." His only response was, "I prefer them hanging in my face."
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| Canadian, eh? Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,620 Location: Kingston, ON Status: Couple Swing Lifestyle Name:intuition897 | Well folks, I guess after reading the comments here we can come to one conclusion: the only "bad boobs" are the ones that nobody likes! And as far as I can tell, the only ones that fall under that category (no pun intended), are the ones that have been butchered by an incompetent plastic surgeon. For the record, I don't hate my boobs. I just really, really understand what txduo is saying about 18-hour grandma bras and frequent adjustments throughout the day and straps with no fewer than four clips in the back. It would be nice, but most women don't have the kind of cash to keep themselves in personally tailored bras.. lol. I agree Paphian, confidence is sexy. One of the advantages of getting older is finally realizing this, and realistically appreciating one's own body. And the fact that others will like it, too. When I think about it, I AM only 30. I'll rethink things another 15 or 20 years from now and see if things need a lift. Hopefully by then they'll have surgical techniques that won't leave the huge scars that women have to live with now. If I'm ever going to have surgery done, there would need to be a really good reason for having the scars to show it, OR they'd have to come up with a way to virtually eliminate scarring, so that my vanity is not so immediately obvious. ![]()
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| Pure Evil..In a cute suit Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,497 Location: Nova Scotia Status: Couple | There are more women here girl that understand your boob situation than you know. I am a D cup myself, and complain that I have no cleavage, literally you can put your hand in between them, and yes when I lay down they fall to the sides. There is a story that my mother loves to tell about how my grandmother (who knew the funeral director as we come from a small town), told the funeral director that when she died and was put out for the viewing she reqeusted that he put popsicle sticks under her arms to prop up her boobs. Gotta love that woman. I was a bit paranoid about my boobs until I started swinging. Man I get more compliments now then I ever did. So now I don't care whether or not they are perky little B's or saggy D's, I have learned to love them as they are in all their post baby somewhat saggy glory. They aren't bad boobs, they just have a lot of personality
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 535 Location: Houston area Status: Couple | Candy has 34A's and I love them, all natural and no man-made filling. Do they point south? Yes some, she's borne two children and isn’t 22 anymore. Would she like them bigger? Not anymore. Why? After seeing all the boobs on sticks in other's profiles and seeing the interest men have in her natural set she has come to an appreciation for what she has.
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