David Cooper

I never implied swingers were sex offenders and you know it. You only seem to enjoy misappropriating comments and taking things out of context to suit your point. I said it was an unacceptable risk for a home in a largely populated community to serve 800 people a week. I asked the County Commissioners what they would do if a sex offender was introduced to the neighborhood where the Rooster is and later commits a sexual assault and/or murder in the neighborhood. They would have a huge public reaction and it wouldn't be positive for them. Don't worry, they didn't respond in public, only in closed quarters. If you think it couldn't occur, please elaborate. I don't need to send you anything to convince you to listen to my point of view. If you wish to continue to debate me,fine by me. It's perfectly obvious you have your opinion about me and that's your issue. I've only allowed you to contact me privately as a courtesy, not out of desperation. You watched a couple of portions of interviews, read some legal text, and read my words taking them out of context as much as possible. I personally don't care to continue in this fashion, so don't be disappointed if I choose not to engage you each time you speak. If your thoughts require me to explain,I might. I don't know you and I don't owe you. I responded to Lee as a primary issue. You and your opinion do rise to the same level of concern. Just make sure whatever you say about me is a fact, unless it is an opinion. I wish you all the best as well and you have a good day.

I'm not sure you understand this is an ongoing case that is in court now that I've won the appeal. It has nothing to do with whether or not the County Commissioners want to agree or disagree any longer. It will be decided by the court, unless the County decides to settle and we both agree. In the event of settlement, it could go either way. It all depends on what the evidence amounts to as to whether it motivates settlement. You seem to make a case that all swingers are always going to be looked down upon by the government. I make the case for the opposite. I've had several private meetings with elected officials regarding this industry in Las Vegas. You would be surprised if you knew what has been discussed. Many don't have a problem with it and some have indicated they would rather see it legalized if it means it is fair and, more importantly, regulated to provide for health and safety in places where this business occurs. I don't want to live in the shadows and have no problem being unpopular with people who believe as you do. I will not sit back and take my lumps so others can profit and maintain the status quo. It is necessary for someone to stand up and make changes so that swinging can become an acceptable lifestyle and enjoy the same protection as all other freedoms of expression. I respectfully disagree with your assertions regarding my business choices and decisions. I know you don't have and apparently don't wish to learn more information. If you choose your opinions with little information and a self imposed limitation to acquire more, it's not my issue. If you really want to debate and correspond, email me and we can talk by phone. If not, I'm ok with it either way. I chose to address Lee so he knows I will respond to all future comments should he choose to discuss me in the future. Other than this, I really have nothing to say to Lee for any reason. I'm not attacking him, only explaining where I believe he has erred.

You can believe what you want to believe if it makes you feel better about your opinion of me. You don't know me and you certainly don't know what level of sacrifice I have made for this lifestyle. I will not apologize for calling the county hypocritical and naming existing clubs that are operating. It is a court of law, not a forum of opinion. Facts are necessary to win in court. As for Lee saying the Rooster never mentioned names in their court proceedings, they never had to. It wouldn't have been a defense of any kind. The reason they were mentioned in my case is simple. We needed to illustrate to the court that Clark County was allowing other clubs to operate with impunity while denying me the same opportunity. It's very clear you really don't care if I'm in business or not, so you don't seem to be concerned with the facts. If you think I'm in business for the money only, you don't know me. I'm in it for the lifestyle and I expect to make a profit from it, just like you, the Rooster, or anyone else with a business in the lifestyle. Terry Gordon, the man I mentioned as someone who shouldn't be allowed in a privileged license category, he was my landlord before the interview, not after. He leases, then subleases buildings like the Green Door, Hushh Club, etc to the owners of these businesses. Terry was the owner of the building I rented when I purchased the business the County refused to re-license, even though it had been the original location for the Green Door and was operating as a sex club when I bought it. There's a lot more to this case than what you see in one Jon Ralston "Face to Face" episode. If you really care for the facts, you should immerse yourself in the case and then state opinion. I'm open to discussing the case if you want to be relevant and fair regarding the facts. If not, I'll pass.

Here is the post you commented on regarding my wife and family. All innuendo as far as I can tell because I still don't know what it is you were trying to imply. It is obviously wrong and I think he knows it. My wife and children have done nothing to deserve any insult on their name or character in any way. Lee was commenting on a Las Vegas Review Journal article naming my wife and girlfriend as potential casting choices for a Las Vegas Real Housewives show. Incidentally, we just filmed a show in March 2013 that later aired in June on VH1 called "I'm Married To A" and it featured my entire family and it was a positive display of polyamorous people. "If anyone uses Google and checks out the "Coopers" for Las Vegas or El Paso Texas you will then understand why it is funny that "Mrs" Cooper is involved in this. Checking Court records in those area's also is interesting reading for that "family". Lots to the background story that is not in that article." As far as parties in residential areas are concerned, I still feel the same way. That's why I don't have a business running out of a home for swingers. It's true that the rooster was there first and we did enjoy it for a while. This doesn't mean we would do it again given what I know now. I really don't have a problem with people hosting parties if they aren't for money in a home on a regular basis, especially a huge volume of people. You may not agree with me and that is your right to your opinion, just like mine. I am merely addressing Lee after his posting about me and my family, as well as my business for years now. I believe I have that right. Again, I'm not attacking him. I'm involved in a discussion. We were friendly with one another at one point in time. When I said In was the only one ever prevented from doing business by the county, I am correct. The rooster has fought successfully for years and I'm glad they have on some level, but I also realize this Lifestyle needs to get out in the open for it to flourish and it cannot do it in a house. Call it sour grapes all you like. I would challenge anyone to defend their business on an Equal Protection issue if they were the only ones disallowed from doing business. Anyone here can call me anytime if you would truly lime to discuss any thoughts. If not, debate me here. This is what forums are for. If you want to talk about me, get the facts, try talking to me, as well as about me. I would afford you the same opportunity, just as I have done here. Lee is correct in saying it does us no good to be at each other's throats. I'm sure he and Mike and Chris don't like me very much because I put them in a position to defend what they're doing. I don't expect them to like it or respect my view. I cannot control their thoughts or actions. I'm sure they would do the same if the tables were turned in reverse. I don't think Mike and Chris would sit by idly and allow everyone in town to do business while they're told they can't because it's illegal.

The Federal lawsuit is based on the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution. It provides for Equal Protection of the Law. Clark County has failed for years since 2002 to enforce their unjust law prohibiting sex clubs. I am the only person they have enforced it with. The violation is clear. If they cannot or will not enforce the law equally, it needs to go, or they need to begin to enforce it all the way around. They face a host of issues in doing either. I didn't create this dilemma. My position to the court has always been a simple one: Provide the license I applied for when I purchased EFJ, LLC (Red Rooster 3), (it had a Category 2 Restaurant License, the same current license held by the Green Door), (In the same building as the original Green Door), or create a regulated and privileged license for this industry, or close all swing clubs in Clark County and create a need for all of the clubs to fight for a legal license together or separately. Clark County had my case dismissed in the Federal court in 2010. I appealed to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, 1 level below the U.S. Supreme Court and I won the appeal in May 2013. You should understand the entire story before you judge me or anyone else. Even if you don't agree with my position, that's ok. You should, however, agree with my having the same rights as Mike and Chris Borchers of the Red Rooster in being able to operate under the same laws. It's the American way. Lee doesn't like me because I stood up for myself and I had to point out to the court that many other swinger's clubs, including, but not limited to the Red Rooster were operating unabated. Personally, it is my preference that swinger's clubs should be legalized and regulated in commercial districts, not in private homes. There are many liabilities for surrounding neighborhoods when a swinger's club operates, especially to the tune of 800 people a week in a residential neighborhood. I know I would not want to live next to a home like this, same as a strip club, or a Wal-Mart. There are building codes that are mandated for public safety of the patrons that must be enforced that are not in effect in a private home that was never intended for high volume traffic. I could go on about additional, logical reasons for clubs to be in commercially zoned locations and I will if anyone requires I do so,l but I am more than happy to be cabdid about my legal case if necessary. As far as Lee saying things about me, I just read an old Yelp comment he made about my business formerly located in Commercial Center saying it was out of business in only a few weeks. He failed to mention it was due to the reasons I've mentioned here. I have no problem with Lee stating his opinion if he chooses, I simply want him to tell the truth if he is going to start stating information as fact. I'm not here to attack him. I do not care for him and that is my right, but I do not have to sit idly by and allow him to make comments as to my business or family and remain silent. I would appreciate Lee making no further comment regarding my family as he has in another thread that has since been closed. Thank you.

Lee seems to believe he "knows' the facts regarding my business activities, procedures, legal issues, and the results of the litigation I'm involved in. The fact is, Lee is wrong. He is obviously biased and he and I definitely do not share a positive relationship. I have watched him defame me for years, now it is time to make my voice heard. I will challenge anything incorrect he has to say regarding me or my business. If you would like to take me up on this Lee, I welcome it. Lee certainly does not speak for the entire Lifestyle as a whole. He speaks for himself and the Red Rooster only. I have never really posted on this forum, so please excuse my nonexistent track record here. I will, however, be regular participant as I deem necessary. For the record Lee, there was anew County Code (Law) enacted in March of 2011. It has never been enforced in any way. As far as the County's intentions, I cannot say or speak for them. I am still in litigation as we speak. Lee and I are not friends, so don't believe everything you read when he attacks my character. Remember, there is competition at stake when he speaks. If anyone has anything ever to ask me, you may do so in this forum or contact me directly via email through my profile. Thank you.