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Mike and Jan

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    M. Male
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    Florida (north-central)
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    Writing, traveling (RV), and fantasizing. As a writer I love using my art to help encourage a spouse to join their spouse in advertures. I just wish someone would have convinced my own spouse for me.
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  1. OK, but if you choose 'prefer not to say' then, in essence, you're saying; Short, narrow, small as hell! LOL!
  2. It actually sort of goes against the 'no means no' rule too. If a person gives any little signal of 'no' then it wouldn't be polite to continue with the seduction.
  3. DBL D, I was simply referring to the fact that I'd like for her to join me in swinging again but she doesn't want to. And the things that she'd like for me to do with her more often that I prefer not to are; Doing Disney attractions..., boring! Visiting her family with her..., again, boring! Getting into X-Mas with her..., yuk! But, you know, I do my best to accomodate her as much as I can stand.
  4. You ask if this 'experiment' can tear your marriage apart? I sounds like you two have talked about it and are both in agreement about exploring it. So I'd say no, it won't damage your marriage even if you, both or one, decide it isn't for you after experiencing it. My wife, currently, has lost her interest in swinging. We had five experiences years ago and delved a little bit more in more recent years. The only conflict swinging ever had on our marriage is the fact that I'd love to do more and she doesn't want to. But then, there are things that she'd love for me to do with her that I'd prefer not doing too. A good marriage isn't threatened by swinging. And, there are so many that are greatly enhanced! Go slow, stay in your comfort zones, and enjoy! Always keep it fun for both of you.
  5. I was listening to NPR (national public radio) yesterday and they had an interview with a man who recently wrote a book about separation of church and state. He made a comment that really got my attention. He said that in the Northern part of the country that what religion you were was seldom brought up in conversation with new acquaintances, but in the South it was one of the first questions.
  6. Hey, just did a search on 'Beltane' that Westernswing mentioned. Interesting, very interesting. Sure didn't know that. I'm an atheist and my wife is agnostic. Works pretty well.
  7. After Bob and Mary we avoided the subject of 'swinging' for a while. I don't think we used that term back then but we did know there were quite a few couples into it. I'm not sure how we brought it up again, probably my initiative, but we did. I'd found out about a club in the city that sort of allowed swingers to find each other anonymously. It was called OSI. We were required to 'both' go in person to sign up to make sure we were for real. I remember being surprised that my wife agreed to go. Simply being there, watching the guy checking out my wife's nice breasts, and talking openly about swinging and what sort of things we liked, disliked, and were interested in was a real turn on for me. I've always found talking about sex difficult and I think the open attitude of swinging is one of my main attractions to it. Anyway, we paid the small fee and became members. I was really feeling cool again. And, I was really, really, thinking my wife was the best wife in the whole darn world again! The first, and only, meeting we went to was about a month later. It was an off premises party at a Holiday Inn lounge in the city. There was one section of the large lounge reserved for OSI but the club and live band was for everyone. I don't know if the other people were aware that we, in our group, were swingers or not but I really didn't care at the time. I had a ball. We both danced many dances with many different folks and really enjoyed the evening. Nothing really happened, at least with me {as long as my wife was enjoying herself I didn't need to know what liberties she allowed or took}, but it was so nice to dance a little closer and let my hands roam a little more than I normally would. There were probably about 20 to 30 couples there and I enjoyed numerous women during the dancing. As the evening wore on a lot of the couples were pairing off and going to rooms. We were invited a couple of times but after declining the offers ended. I think the regulars realized we were new to this and just didn't want to pester us. There was one guy there that I knew from High School but I didn't talk to him or ask his wife to dance. I think I was just wanting him to remain as anonymous as I wanted to remain. His wife was cute though and years later I sold them a care and wondered if they still were into swinging. Nothing was mentioned then either. It was fun at the party and when we left we were undressed and playing on the drive home. I remember pulling into the garage naked and carrying our clothing into the house. Fun night! We received several letters from other members who were at that party who wanted to meet with us. I was very interested but left it up to the wife to decide and each time she just wasn't interested at all. Personally, I'd have loved to have met all of them. About two weeks after that party we got a letter from a single guy who wasn't even there but said friends had told him about us. Doug seemed like a really, intelligent, considerate and nice guy in his note so we decided to contact him. I don't remember who called who but we decided to meet him and a girlfriend of his at her apartment in the city to talk one evening. I don't have any clue what her name was. She was an art teacher in one of the schools there and she was doing a sculpture of Doug. I'm sure they'd been partners in swinging activities. She was just as nice as Doug and the only risque activity that evening was Doug stripping to his underwear to pose for her to continue her work while we talked. I'm sure my wife was checking him out during all this but she didn't say anything about it. We were both pleased with both of them and agreed to get together that next weekend at our house. During the week Doug had called and talked to my wife and she admitted to having an orgasm while having, her first, phone sex. I thought that was cool as hell. Now after a few years she didn't remember that when we talked about Doug. Odd. I have always wondered if she was just embarrassed about it or really could forget. Doug and the lady sent nude pictures that week and we reciprocated with ones of us. It was really, really exciting and the planning was most of the fun. When they finally got to our house that night we talked for about thirty minutes in the living room then Doug and my wife went to the kitchen. I didn't know why they went but assumed they were going to be alone. The other woman kisses me the moment Doug and my wife were gone and we didn't waste any time getting naked. {Now, the only real rule or limitation that my wife and I had made was no vaginal or anal intercourse. Doug and his lady were aware in advance of this rule.} I guess Doug and my wife had simply gone to the kitchen to get a drink because they returned very shortly to find me going down on this naked young woman. I remember my wife, in a sort of sarcastic tone, saying that we certainly didn't waste any time. I was afraid that I'd blown it but before I could stop what I was doing or say anything I noticed that Doug and my wife were joining in the activities and getting undressed too. I continued to work on the other woman but couldn't help watching my wife and Doug. I have no idea how long we were in this situation but loved every second. There was one point when my wife was giving Doug a blowjob and her cute ass was up in the air that I excused myself from the lady I was with and fucked my wife doggystyle for a while. After she and I fucked for a while, and she continued sucking Doug during, they left and went to another room. The other lady and I resumed our activities. I didn't even think about fucking her because I knew the rules. She asked if I would several times though. My wife said that Doug had asked as well and even asked if anal was an option but she said they didn't fuck either. If she did I didn't mind and don't even mind that she didn't tell me. I remember the lady and I joining Doug and my wife later in the dining room. My wife was sitting naked in the floor in front of Doug, who was sitting in a chair. She was stroking his nice cock. And Doug did have a nice cock. Not huge and not small but it was a nice dark color. He was Lebanese and had nice color to his skin. I was sitting on a bar stool and the lady spent about thirty minutes sucking my cock while I watched my wife stroking his cock. I don't know if my wife was enjoying watching my blow job but it was sure fun watching her and watching her watching me. I'd love to know every thought she had during this, and the other, swinging times we shared. After a while we decided to do something different and drew straws to see who would get a massage from the other three. The other lady won. We took her to the guest bedroom, tied the hands and feet to the corner posts and blindfolded her. Then Doug and I began to lick and caress her naked body. My wife simply sat at the foot of the bed and rubbed the ladies feet and watched. I wish there had been time for all of us to have our turn but there wasn't. Pretty soon we were all so horny that Doug began fucking his date and me and my wife went to the master bedroom to be alone. I liked Doug a lot. We never got together with him again though. We'd planned on it and he even had another girlfriend he was going to bring but my wife, again, decided she wasn't into swinging. She did tell me later that he'd mentioned that he liked men too. I've often wondered that if we'd been with him more would I have gotten to suck that nice cock. I'd have liked that.
  8. I'm not much for either. Now I do enjoy long and explicit email exchanges though. The third time my wife and I were with another couple, my wife got a call from the man and they had phone sex. She told me about it when I got home from work. It was after we'd met but before we'd had sex with them. I guess I could jot down that experience and post it on the story section, couldn't I? She told me she actually had an orgasm while on the phone. I think that phone call really helped her to relax and enjoy our sexual date with him the next weekend. So, using it to get acquainted 'sexually' might be a real plus with new couples. I'd kill to have a recording of that call now. And, I'd love to have my wife using a speaker phone while having phone sex with someone else while I was attending to her body.
  9. Teresa, Gotta ask??? Ever been with your cousin and her hubby? You said that Ted thought she was cute. My oldest cousin's daughter (my second cousin), Kathy and I always hit it off so well each time we're together. She's about six years younger than me. I wouldn't hesitate if they were in agreement.
  10. I'll bet that of couples who've been married for more than ten years that at least 90% have at least one of the spouses who've thought about it. Of these, probably 75% of the spouses are the husband and the other 25% the wife. And, of couples that have been married a long time I'll bet that over 75% have thought about it together. I'd go so far as to say that almost 50% of these couples would participate in some form of swinging given the perfect situation and other people. Of these long term married couples I'd guess that at least 25% have experimented with swinging, of some fashion, at least once. OK, just my opinion. But in reality we humans are not monagomous creatures. We, like eagles, do tend to make life long committments with a partner, but also like eagles we feel the need for sexual adventure with others.
  11. Usis, What a beautiful relationship! You've found what I would love for my loving wife and I to find some day!
  12. OK, now don't everyone take this the wrong way but..., I could see a lot of married folks saying that they do that all the time with their spouse! LOL!
  13. Well, sounds like they want to get to know the couples before the full swap sex..., So, doesn't that make them a soft-swing 'at first' couple? Maybe that's the way they should have worded it.
  14. I don't see anything wrong with making it clear in your ad that you want a larger than normal penis. Some men sure make it clear they want large boobs. But, you might give some thought to letting the 'ad' readers know that it's not because your husband has a small one so the other half of the 'ad' reader doesn't shy away.
  15. I'm a former USAF Combat Controller. There were two couples who were swingers when I was in the military years ago and they, along with a few of their recruits, were discharged when it was discovered that they were swingers. It's just like being 'gay' in the military. Our right wing government feels that anything that might be used as 'blackmail' if known can be a threat to security. Now if our stupid, narrowminded, right wing government would use common sense they'd know that the only reason it can be used as blackmail is because of the fear of being caught. So, make it the soldier's personal choice and there's no fear. Duh!
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