Being a Swinger, do you Still believe in GOD

[wesharedou]

We were just wondering how many Swingers will admit to believing in GOD..

Of course most people will say they do, we just wondered how many, and also if most people will say that they can be a Christian, and still be a swinger..

Personally, we kinda feel like a couple of bad little kids that need a spanking, but in light of the dispicable things that have went on for years like all the pedofiles in the Roman Catholic Church, we feel that swapping partners is net really that big of a deal.

We welcome all comments..

D&S

[biblonde]

YES we believe in GOD!!! and yes we are both christians!! No fear from us admitting it!!

[Brit_Pair]

Not surprisingly, this isn't the first time this particular subject has been raised:

Swinging and Religion

Christianity, politics & swinging

Swinging vrs Religion

are three such threads that might have some answers for you.

[froggyjenn80]

Even before swinging my husband and I were not religious, so in reality, swinging has nothing to do with our beliefs. My husband is pagan and I am agnostic.

We know swingers that are very very religious, and we think they are extremely hypocritical. Not the swinging, but the acts that happen during swinging functions (smoking, drinking, swearing, ect) All things that the church religiously disagrees with, upon sex with others.

America is just about the only country where being bisexual or with multiple partners is "bad" and looked down upon. Its just a personal preference of each. Religious or not.

We dont put down those that are, and expect the same respect with our beliefs.

Excellent question though!
~~Jenn

[lookin_forfun65]

Yes, I believe in God, no fear of admitting it.

J of K&J

[Spoomonkey]

Just because "church religiousity" generally looks down on things, does not mean that it is against the teachings of Christ...

Sorry - but I wanted to make the point that while we do not believe that a church or it's leadership should decide how we (Mr and Mrs Spoomonkey) live our lives, we would not accept the same sort of judgement from those not deeply familiar with the tennants of our faith.

Yes - we are Christians, and yes we struggle with the dualities that our fundamental past has ingrained us with... But we feel that if God is spending his time stomping around heaven because me and the missus are enjoying the company of others, then His priorities are severely out of wack... And, frankly, as one who has read the Bible - not just as a hobby, but twelve years as a divinity student and ordained minister - I do not believe that the contemporary American church in any way resembles the faith that Christ extolled...

Sorry - I am not one who wants to mix religion and swinging, so I will bow out of this thread... I don't see the point, really, as there are folks who simplify Christianity with the stupidity they see on the "Old Time Gospel Hour". Faith is a deeply personal issue that can become emotional, divisive and - as history proves - the launching pad of much hatred and pain. But - even though God has been used as an excuse to condemn, destroy and oppress - I am unashamed of my personal love for the Jesus that I read about and believe in...

And if that's too heavy...

"What more smokies with your merlot?"

Let's just get back to me being THAT Spoomonkey

PS - America is clearly not the only country with restrictive sexual mores... That statement shows a very poor grasp of other cultures.

[Alura]

Originally posted by Spoomonkey
I do not believe that the contemporary American church in any way resembles the faith that Christ extolled...

Dito to this thought, Spoomonkey! I'd go so far as to say the church left the teachings of Christ when Saul of Tarsus took over.

If the teachings of Christ had continued to be taught, we would not have had the Crusades nor the Inquisition. Several other aspects of history would also not have happened, such as The Bloody Popes and the Dark ages. There would be no conflict in Northern Ireland. Priests wouldn't fuck kids.

I don't believe for a moment that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were "Just good friends."

Most preachers today, particularly those making mega-millions on Television (including a couple of Tulsans), in my opinion, have no idea what Jesus was trying to teach. If they did, they wouldn't be on TV talking about their faith.

I'm a Native American and a follower of the philosophies of The Sun God and Spider Woman, but I think Jesus Christ was one of the most extraordinary individuals to have lived.

Mr. Alura

[flassh]

Church, Christianity, Religion...Bla Bla Bla If one wants to read about what people believe then go to the source of the rhetoric
from Nietzsche himself:

"Christianity is called the religion of pity.-- Pity stands in opposition to all the tonic passions that augment the energy of the feeling of aliveness: it is a depressant. A man loses power when he pities. Through pity that drain upon strength which suffering works is multiplied a thousandfold. Suffering is made contagious by pity; under certain circumstances it may lead to a total sacrifice of life and living energy--a loss out of all proportion to the magnitude of the cause (--the case of the death of the Nazarene). This is the first view of it; there is, however, a still more important one. If one measures the effects of pity by the gravity of the reactions it sets up, its character as a menace to life appears in a much clearer light."

I hope this quotation, as hypnotic that it is, brings to the surface a perspective about what someone really means when they ask: Do you believe in God? I Do very profoundly, yet I wonder who cares what I believe ultimately. We live in the postmodern era with a dominant spiritual thrust to dismantle scientific authority on the one hand and religious authority of the other. Its present in everything and everywhere especially in higher educational systems. To read more of the passage follow this link:

http://users.compaqnet.be/cn127103/N...antichrist.htm

[Roxysbayou]

I still hold true to my faith.

I may be a hypocrit, I may not be.

I really don't care what others think about it.

Roxy

[fun_pairTX]

Swinging and belief in God are as unrelated as subjects as religion and God. Being Christian only involves attempting to live in accordance with the spirit and principles that Christ Himself lived. The way I see it, this also has nothing to do with organized religion.

[Brit_Pair]

Originally posted by froggyjenn80
America is just about the only country where being bisexual or with multiple partners is "bad" and looked down upon.

It may well be "worse" in the US, but rest assured, it's not much different here in the UK. The so-called 'quality' press often run scathing articles attacking swingers and those whose sexual practices 'deviate' from what the establishment would like to consider 'the norm', and right-of-centre politicians are constantly extolling the decline in moral virtues and behaviour in matters of sexuality.

And the chances are that - being true to their Victorian forefathers - most of those editors and politicians are probably wrapped up in leather and chains at the weekend, while their wives or mistresses get gang-banged.

Ah, the subtle art of hypocrisy!

[Brit_Pair]

Originally posted by fun_pairTX
Being Christian only involves attempting to live in accordance with the spirit and principles that Christ Himself lived. The way I see it, this also has nothing to do with organized religion.

Dito I'm not a religious person, and probably never will be. But I try to be Christian in the way I live and interact with those around me.

[Avantgarden38]

We belive in God as do most of the swingers we know. Here are some recent quotes from our last meeting:

"Oh my god, it's so big!"

"god this feels good!"

"O god. . . .oh god . . . oh, god . . . .oh, GOD!!"

"god. . . you came a lot!"

"This is so hot, god, I can't believe it!"

"Oh god, I'm cumming . . . .again!"

"god. . .I'm exhausted!"

[dayhiker]

Originally posted by Alura
If the teachings of Christ had continued to be taught, we would not have had the Crusades nor the Inquisition. Several other aspects of history would also not have happened, such as The Bloody Popes and the Dark ages. There would be no conflict in Northern Ireland. Priests wouldn't fuck kids.
Mr. Alura

Thought I'd add a little of my understanding of history.
I agree that following Christ would have prevented
most of the above list including the wars in Europe that
went on and on. Voltaire did an amazing job of changing
Europe's view in his 70 yrs of writting. Yet Europe still
went to war too often.

The Dark ages are being rethought and don't look
as dark as the history books used to make out. But I see
the "Dark ages" not being a result of Christianity as much
the invasion of the Northern tribes such as the Goths that
invited Rome over the years. The had no apprechiation
if Education, the culture of the Greeks nor of the law of
Rome. The Church which had been brought up in an
some what educated world brought these northern invadors
into the church. But what to do with these new converts
that didn't appreachiate the education at the time. Instead
of making schools for them, they set up a symbolic expression
of Christianity to teach them. The candle light on the alter
represented Christ as the light of the world. This resulted
by the middle ages in half the priests not being able to
read the words of Christ. Yet the Monks in the Monistaries
gradually laid the foundation for Galilao and Newtian to
challenge the autharian Aristotle world view and start
the move toward our mordern scientific world view.


The Cursades are being pictured quite one-sided today.
The Muslims had forcable converted Christians across
north Africa tell they were finally stopped in the Iberian
penisula. In the east the Muslims keep pushing for centuries.
The wars fought on both of these fronts were wars and so
very bloody. But it is my belief that if the Muslims had not
been stopped we would all be muslims today. And I for one
wouldn't want my wife if have female circumsission and
ever experiance an orgasm in her life like 80% of the women
in Eygpt. Or never to be able to go outside and feel the sun
on their face like the majority of woman that live in Saudia Arabia.

Well, that's how I view history.

[wrnakedru]

Originally posted by fun_pairTX Swinging and belief in God are as unrelated as subjects as religion and God. Being Christian only involves attempting to live in accordance with the spirit and principles that Christ Himself lived. The way I see it, this also has nothing to do with organized religion.

Dito And amen!

Additionally, I only wish to add that I am insulted and incensed by any who would presume to think they know my beliefs or make judgement as to a perceived inconsistency.

My relationship with my God is personal and unless you are sitting at His right hand, you are in no position to pass judgement.