Being a Swinger, do you Still believe in GOD - Page 3

Spoomonkey · 02-29-2004, 02:54 PM

I would say that anyone who has chosen to have a sexually liberal marriage AND has a faith background of any sort, has undoubtedly run these issues through their own personal gaunlets. If a person has honestly come to a sense of comfort with the co-existence of faith and non-monogamy, then my assumption about that person is that they have looked as deeply at the issue as they need to.

The stuff at libchrist.com was helpful for me early on, but like anything in the world, it still leaves you with the personal responsibility of making the decision about what is or is not truth. Far too many Christians approach their faith without accepting that responsibility - and thus they do follow blindly the lead of those who are using religion to further denominational thought or agendas. I think it painfully obvious that most Christians in this lifestyle have - in fact - taken on the responsibility of their personal faiths - and that says much about the depth of those faiths.

What I find ironic is that during this discussion, it has not been the Christians who have voiced intolerance. Most Christians have stated their faith (answering the original question as it was presented) and then have moved on. I think this seems to buck the concept that Christians are aggressively evangelistic. At least in this forum they have not been. And - I have been encouraged by the posts of those who do not share a Christian or Christian-like faith. Most have - again - answered the question as it was presented.

I mean, aren't Christians supposed to sit around judging folks and telling them how very hot it is in hell? Hmmm... Another stereotype proves to be false...

But - while the Christians state their faith and ignore some obvious baiting that has popped up on this thread - a few have taken the opportunity to tell Christians that they are:

1. Hypocritcal
2. Brain-washed
3. Believers in a "myth" (quite belittling tripe, IMHO)

...among other comments...

Of course, those who have said those things finish their posts with "but we support your right to believe what you want, as long as you don't tell us what to believe." But - not once on this thread has anyone told an athiest, agnotic, pagan, whatever, what they need to believe. Christians - at least Christians in the lifestyle - don't appear interested or inclined to do such a thing. So why are the panties in a bunch? Why are some backed into a corner, of their own design, warning that:

"anyone who gets in my face about religion is fair game for my best less-than-tactful diatribe."

It seems to me that the mere mention of religion gets some folks ready to rumble - or at least brings out the worst in some folks who are likely great people when this is left off of the table.

I agree that I tolerate anyone's beliefs or lack thereof, as long as they tolerate mine. Live and let live, right? But after reading a few posts, I would expand it a bit - don't tell me I'm a idiot for my faith (someone who can't "dump the god myth") and I will not tell you you're an idiot - for whatever reason I may think you are. Deal?

Spoomonkey

DragonsLair · 02-29-2004, 09:38 PM

As a swinger do I believe in GOD.

Well hell yea I believe in him..Hell I am Him.

I dont ever remember saying anything was wrong with having sex with as many people as possible if all are willing and your parnter agrees.

I say live long and happy lives and just think about all the good sex your going to have with all those scantily clothed cherubs up here in Heaven.

I am T(GOD)She is A(GOD)

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02-29-2004, 02:54 PM	#31 (permalink)
Spoomonkey Chimpin' Ain't Easy Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,739 Location: Ohio Status: Married Monkeys - will you be our vine? Swing Lifestyle Name:Spoomonkey	Intolerance I would say that anyone who has chosen to have a sexually liberal marriage AND has a faith background of any sort, has undoubtedly run these issues through their own personal gaunlets. If a person has honestly come to a sense of comfort with the co-existence of faith and non-monogamy, then my assumption about that person is that they have looked as deeply at the issue as they need to. The stuff at libchrist.com was helpful for me early on, but like anything in the world, it still leaves you with the personal responsibility of making the decision about what is or is not truth. Far too many Christians approach their faith without accepting that responsibility - and thus they do follow blindly the lead of those who are using religion to further denominational thought or agendas. I think it painfully obvious that most Christians in this lifestyle have - in fact - taken on the responsibility of their personal faiths - and that says much about the depth of those faiths. What I find ironic is that during this discussion, it has not been the Christians who have voiced intolerance. Most Christians have stated their faith (answering the original question as it was presented) and then have moved on. I think this seems to buck the concept that Christians are aggressively evangelistic. At least in this forum they have not been. And - I have been encouraged by the posts of those who do not share a Christian or Christian-like faith. Most have - again - answered the question as it was presented. I mean, aren't Christians supposed to sit around judging folks and telling them how very hot it is in hell? Hmmm... Another stereotype proves to be false... But - while the Christians state their faith and ignore some obvious baiting that has popped up on this thread - a few have taken the opportunity to tell Christians that they are: 1. Hypocritcal 2. Brain-washed 3. Believers in a "myth" (quite belittling tripe, IMHO) ...among other comments... Of course, those who have said those things finish their posts with "but we support your right to believe what you want, as long as you don't tell us what to believe." But - not once on this thread has anyone told an athiest, agnotic, pagan, whatever, what they need to believe. Christians - at least Christians in the lifestyle - don't appear interested or inclined to do such a thing. So why are the panties in a bunch? Why are some backed into a corner, of their own design, warning that: "anyone who gets in my face about religion is fair game for my best less-than-tactful diatribe." It seems to me that the mere mention of religion gets some folks ready to rumble - or at least brings out the worst in some folks who are likely great people when this is left off of the table. I agree that I tolerate anyone's beliefs or lack thereof, as long as they tolerate mine. Live and let live, right? But after reading a few posts, I would expand it a bit - don't tell me I'm a idiot for my faith (someone who can't "dump the god myth") and I will not tell you you're an idiot - for whatever reason I may think you are. Deal? Spoomonkey

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02-29-2004, 09:38 PM	#32 (permalink)
DragonsLair Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,020 Location: Cleveland, OH Status: Married Couple	As a swinger do I believe in GOD. Well hell yea I believe in him..Hell I am Him. I dont ever remember saying anything was wrong with having sex with as many people as possible if all are willing and your parnter agrees. I say live long and happy lives and just think about all the good sex your going to have with all those scantily clothed cherubs up here in Heaven. I am T(GOD)She is A(GOD)