sex and religion

[katejustkate]

This is probably old as the hills and since we ae new to swing I want to ask an age old question.
How can a person be a swinger and still be a christian?

I was raised Catholic and and when I practice I choose baptist. We all know the ten comandments, and tho shall not commit adultry comes to mind.

What is the differance if any between adultry and swing?

Kate

[two4youinswva]

What is the differance if any between adultry and swing?

Ask 100 board members, and you'll probably get 100 different thoughts on this.

Here's a fairly detailed thread on that subject that may help shed some light, and sort out your feelings.

[Rombi's Girl]

*sending hugs your way*

I think I understand how you feel. Please read my reply to this thread, well, the whole thread in general addresses the topic you raise about the morality and justification of swinging.


Dr Phil's Rebuttal show on swingers


For the record, I am fine with swinging. My original response on the above referenced thread was prompted by an actual experience with a very religious couple. I wondered how they could be so pious, yet be such seasoned swingers.

I am not overly religious. I was born Catholic, but I don't really feel that organized religion fits well into my life these days. My questions in that thread were meant more to ask how others how they reconciled their religious views with their desire to swing.

Best of luck to you figuring things out!
RG

[jennandjamesinm]

I understand your search for the right answer for you. It can be soul-wrenching to re-examine your beliefs and realize that you are now looking at things differently. Adultery, I believe, is subject to your own interpretation. To me, adultery is something that is dishonest, full of lies and mistrust. Swinging is something that my husband and I have chosen to do together, hence - no cheating. We are doing this together with each others full consent. Here are some more links for you to look at that deal with the morality, perceptions and the misconception that "vanillas" have about swinging. I wish you luck on your journey to finding out what is truth for you.

Jenn

http://www.swingersboard.com/forums/...ghlight=morals

Vanilla Perceptions regarding who swings

Vanilla friend trying to understand

[Spoomonkey]

I think you will get a lot of good information from the threads that have been provided. The bottom line is - any responsible person is going to wrestle with the issues of their faith or lack thereof. When things in life come along and challenge your personal dogma - reassessing is a healthy thing.

For me - I have found my faith (Christian) and swinging to not be at odds. I found my faith and the requirements of working in a church to be at odds more often than faith and swinging... But that's a long story

Now - do I think there will be swing clubs in heaven? Not yet... Anyone want to go in as partners?



Spoomonkey

[undermind]

I'm pretty new to the scene, but what I CAN tell you is that as long as you don't feel guilt and are happy with your life-choices' outcomes, then you are not breaking any of God's promises. Jesus came unto us to help. Not only did he explain to us that there is a God who cares for us, but he also gave us a way of life that, when followed, gives us eternal bliss (regardless of what this material world may throw at us from time to time).

If you feel that swinging is wrong, then you won't be happy. Why do something your conscience disagrees with? You're only hurting yourself. On the other side: If you and your s/o are ok with it, and free of guilt, than proceed.

jennandjamesinm said "adultery is something that is dishonest, full of lies and mistrust. Swinging is something that my husband and I have chosen to do together, hence - no cheating. We are doing this together with each others full consent."

According to the New Testament, God is eternal love. Love him, charish his word, and you will be loved back. If something you do feels wrong, then he's probably trying to tell you something.

[JustAskJulie]

For the record, there's actually a whole Archive dedicated to the subject of religion and how it relates to swinging. As someone said earlier, ask 100 swingers, you'll get 100 answers. Some have figured out exactly how they can stick to their beliefs and still swing, others have changed their beliefs and for others still it is a mute point as religion is not an issue for them.

Religion and Swinging

[intravox]

Do not worry,

Rev. 22:11- 12 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Just keep going.

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If you don't like the passage don't get mad at me, reply to the author of the book.

[dayhiker]

hi Kate,
Let me deal with adultery and the Bible a little more technically way and give you a few lines of thought to develope.

1. Adultery isn't defined the way we think of it today. To both the Hebrews and in Greek and Roman culture Adultery is either a man, single or married, having sex with a married woman.

One of the reasons for this is that this would produces confusion as to who the father was. This is important to Israel as the Messiah was to be a decendent to certian men: Abraham, David and Solomn to name some men that prophesy is concern with.

Since the Messiah ( for Christians) has come this is of no interest to us today. Not to say it might not be a personal interest.

2. Adultery was a property law. There were no sex laws in Bible times as we think of them saying sex is wrong. The women, and children were part of the patriarchal family. Adultery was undermining the reputation and authroity of the father. We live in an individualistic society today. Neither society is right or wrong as far as God is concern. As Paul said in 1Cor.7 the wife's body belongs to the man and the man's body belongs to the woman. If your both comfortable sharing each other than there is no misuse of ones partners body. So no sin, no adultery.

I was brought up a Baptist, so Its that type if info that helped me deal with 10 commandments.
dayhiker

[HotMoCpl]

A few months ago I bought and read the book, "The DaVinci Code" and have a totally differant outlook on "religion" in general. I've been doing a lot of research about the things I read in this book on the internet and there are several other books I want to order as well.

I was also raised Catholic and left the church at the age of 13 or 14 years old. I've been a rebel ever since.

[curious1103]

Born and raised Catholic myself. Haven't sat through a Mass in years...

My thinking is, as long as you're not hurting yourself or anyone else, then, by all means, enjoy yourself.