Mixed poly/swinging vacation situation (need advice)

[couplers]

Thanks to all that advised me. I asked Clair this morning if she wanted to go with us to Tahoe and Vail. She was excited, said yes, and we talked about all the things we are planning to do. She had been to Vail before, but not Tahoe. Eventually, she brought up the question that sexcupid did about whether she and Red would have to share a room at any point. She thought maybe it would be boys in one room and girls in another, but when I told her that the plan was for her and David to share a room, she asked if I was OK with that. I told her sure, it was my idea. Clair was even more pleased when I told her that we would cover her airfare and lift tickets. I like Clair and she makes me feel very comfortable with her openness, sexual and otherwise, and her clear-headedness about love and sex. David, who usually doesn't say much about the play arrangements I make, said that this is over the top and has him excited. Red is still processing, but said it would be nice to spend more time with me.


The only wrinkle is that because of work Clair has to go back two days earlier than the rest of us. Everything else is good, just got to jump on those plane tickets, prices seem to be going up.

[The Fuse]

Have a great vacation! May you all ski and fuck in perfect harmony .

Seriously, have a great time.

[bbarnsworth]

Originally Posted by The Fuse

Have a great vacation! May you all ski and fuck in perfect harmony .

Just don't try to do both at the same time, most especially NOT on an open chair lift!

And please, report back when you get back and let us all know how it went

[gatorvol64]

Congratulations! Have a fun time!

[slevin]

Hope you have a great trip! The poly ideas are something we don't have much knowledge of since it's something we haven't explored at all. I am intrigued by your situation though; with Red's reluctance to be a full part of the situation. It would concern me, as a husband, if the other guy involved wasn't fully on-board, and ok, with the arrangement. This is obviously working for all of you despite that, but it would be a concern for me in the situation.

Have a great ski trip; a swinging ski trip does sound like a fantastic idea. We're going to have to arrange one of those ourselves sometime soon!

[DigginIt]

Not much to add here at this point but if it doesn't all work out then maybe next year you can invite Mrs. Diggs and I

Seriously, hope you all have a fantastic time.

[couplers]

All booked and eager to go. Everyone is good with it, expressing even more excitement than the usual playdate (it's the skiing, I bet).


SLEVIN - The poly situation wasn't something we went looking to explore, it just sort of came about when hubby let me keep my bf into our relationship and marriage. Red isn't reluctant about the vacation or the way the relationship is structured, he has just never particularly liked a threesome or to watch. Nothing has changed in that regard. This should actually work out better.

[Meetussoon]

I love you.

HA...............

[slevin]

Originally Posted by couplers

SLEVIN - The poly situation wasn't something we went looking to explore, it just sort of came about when hubby let me keep my bf into our relationship and marriage. Red isn't reluctant about the vacation or the way the relationship is structured, he has just never particularly liked a threesome or to watch. Nothing has changed in that regard. This should actually work out better.

Thats cool, it obviously works for the three of you, and that is all that matters. The way you described Reds reaction to some of the previous vacations is what prompted me to bring it up. I understand not liking the threesomes, but a concern about his angst of your husband screwing you....that would be something that stuck out to me. Either swinging or poly it would concern me that he had angst about my wife fucking me. Either he's cool with the situation, or he isn't. If he's cool with it then her having sex with me should be no big deal.

All that aside, if it's working then it doesn't matter! I'd be very excited about this trip too. Vail and Tahoe are both excellent, though my preference is Tahoe

[couplers]

Hi, Petra here with a follow up post. Well, I am an optimist so when I say things went better than expected, that's really saying something. We knew we wouldn't have adjacent rooms in Tahoe and at first we were disappointed that despite a confirmation it was the same in Vail, but ultimately it turned out for the better. In both places we had two rooms on the same floor at the same end of the hall. What made me feel special was as we checked in Red got a key for one room, David and Clair each got keys for the other, and I got a key for both rooms. So Red and I stayed together while Clair and David stayed in (and I visited) the other room. The whole thing worked out really well, both socially and sexually. This isn't a travel log site, so I skip the ski report (which wasn't as good as previous years) and other things (which were great, particularly with another woman around) and just say that the pattern that we fell into was the pairing of David & Clair, Red & me except that after skiing before dinner I would visit hubby and Clair for some foreplay then run across the hall for an intense session with Red. As I said before, it was great that Clair would not only let me watch, but also I could help hubby with her, and this became my first lezzy experience (this is what my sister and I called it growing up, not bi- or bi-curious). Up to this point I was not attracted to female genitalia, it sort of put me off. Touching breasts was OK, but it had taken a lot of courage to just touch her clit with my fingers and begin to slip one inside her vagina a couple of months ago. There's a lot of varieties possible with three people and we tried a bunch of different things, all firsts for me. With Clair on her back at the edge of the bed I laid on my back on top of her and hubby fucked us both alternating pussies after a few strokes while she played with my breasts. In regular missionary position I rested my head on Clair's pubis from the side and had hubby alternate between her pussy and my mouth. With me on my back and legs spread, Clair laid on her back between my legs with her head resting on my right thigh so hubby could screw her and lick me at the same time. But two of the highlights for me were while hubby went in Clair from behind I would lick Clair and hubby from underneath. In what was a first for both of us, she let me eat hubby's cum out of her pussy and I made her orgasm. Thinking of it as if I was helping hubby have sex with her made it a turn on instead of a turn off. Having hubby's cum to lick and not just her pussy gave me the incentive I needed. None of this involved hubby cumming in me and usually not even entering me, so that after I was wet and horny I would run across the hall for an intense screwing from Red. Another thrill were the times when in the middle of the day hubby and I would "sneak" back to his room for a quickie. The bed hadn't been changed yet and the smell of sex from what went on earlier between Clair and hubby drove me wild. Sex with hubby is always great, but this made sex with my spouse a really charged event.

Red and Clair got along fine, but there wasn't any chemistry between them. We certainly wouldn't have minded if they had played together, but nothing indicated that was going to happen. Like all of us, Red has his emotional fetishes, one of them is his declared monogamy with me, the other is the satisfaction he gets from me saying I'm still there for him. Red is one of those near geniuses that can do many things well, but does his own thing. This gives him an attractive cool demeanor, but women that try to get to know him are stumped by what he wants to talk about. Actually, the "chemistry" between Clair and Red consisted of Red's discussions of organic chemistry once he knew about Clair's biochem undergrad degree. Clair is smart, but that was too much like work to her, so nothing came of it.


In some ways, the two weeks every night with Red was sort of a melancholy flashback to our earlier times when we were still living together and considered getting married. Particularly to the time when I knew it was really over, that I was falling in love with David, running to Red to talk about it, cry, and make love. We talked a lot. All in all, however, we agreed that we wouldn't have worked as a married couple and that the way things now stand life couldn't have turned out better for all of us.


As I said before, Clair had to leave two days early to get back to work, so after that it was me and my two guys. Originally I complained about the demands of satisfying them both. But the nice part is that since these vacations are the rare times we will have an MFM, it is a good way to satisfy Red's occasional desire for anal. By itself having a dick in my bum doesn't get me off so then I need him to lick me afterwards which, even when he used to use a dildo, still wasn't as good as regular vaginal intercourse from any direction. But while Red is usually out of there when hubby and I are screwing, he likes doing the anal part of a DP. (Makes him feel special, I guess.) So while having Red in my bum doesn't get me to orgasm, in combination with a regular vaginal intercourse it really gets me off, plus I can satisfy both of the guys at once instead of doing a double marathon. A moment that keeps coming back into my mind is when I was an early evening when I was in bed naked with the sheet up to my waist and I saw my two guys getting ready for me, David naked, Red with just a T-shirt on, both facing me and not yet erect.

It was a long trip back, but I felt soooooo special sitting between two of the most wonderful men on earth, holding both their hands. When hubby and I got home we never even made it to the bed room. We grabbed each other in the living room, screwed like teenagers while reciting our take on the past two weeks. We were hungry after that so we went out for dinner, got home and guess what? Screwed again and fell asleep. I have hubby to thank for such a wonderful life. I used to be a Catholic girl guilt-ridden just for having sex before marriage with my boyfriend. Now I feel a calm freedom and happiness.

[fun4Ds]

I have no advice......

A hard on, and a drop of sweat from my temple area from reading this, is not considered advice...

Its a bit steamy in the fun house this morning, did someone turn up the heat or what ?

In fact, we may be comming to you, for advice... Thank you !

[bbarnsworth]

Originally Posted by fun4Ds

A hard on, and a drop of sweat from my temple area from reading this, is not considered advice...

Thank you couplers for the update. It's wonderful to hear that it went so well! Thank you for taking the time to write such long posts. They are always worth reading.

[couplers]

Sorry for the long post. I wrote most of it in Word as we went along then just pasted and it got a bit out of control. My posts are pretty infrequent and short because I don't usually have much to contribute. Other than having my husband and my boyfriend (I've only been with three guys my whole life), my sex life wasn't anywhere near as varied as most people that are on this forum until this vacation. I found this site only when I first encourage my husband to play and I was dealing with jealousy.

[Additude]

That was a long post?????

mmmmmmm...didn't seem like it....

I just read the whole thread....and that didn't seem long either...hummmm...

[couplers]

Clair called me today and asked if I could meet her for lunch. I was a bit concerned about what it was she wanted to discuss; we hadn't talked since she left to come back home. What a surprise! She had a present for me, a sweater that I had been coveting in a shop at Vail. I didn't buy it because of the price, but she got it for me. So sweet. We talked for a long time before we had to get back to work. This is the Swingersboard, so I'll spare you all the other things and jump to the relationship talk.

Clair said she really appreciated the entire trip experience and said she was impressed about the way I have everything figured out. If she only knew that I'm really just making it up as I go along. She apologized for not calling because she has been really busy catching up with work but said she would like to see hubby again soon. Actually, she said it the way she always does, she asked, "Is it OK with you if I see David this week?" I told her "sure, anytime" because I know what it's like to need it. I told her that despite what I may have said early on, she no longer needs to arrange visits with my husband through me. I like her more than hubby's other play partners. But the most exciting thing was what she said about the two of us. Clair said that I have been her first female experience and she liked it, but wasn't interested in just the two of us playing sexually together. She would, however, like to get together again with hubby and me. At this point we started whispering because of all the people around (funny how the entire restaurant goes quiet when you start talking about something intimate), she told me that she liked what I did to her, but she didn't want to lick my pussy, finger fuck me or anything like that, but enjoyed the play I had with her and David. I'm cool with that. She said it would have been nice if I stayed the entire time and didn't run off to see Red. I told her that it would all be fine with me. So we have a threesome date for this Sunday afternoon. I told Clair to bring her bag in case she wanted to stay all night. I was so wet after lunch that I know I will need to get some soon. The interesting thing will be to call hubby before I leave for home tonight to see if he is screwing Clair and where I should go. God, it makes me horny thinking about all this.