Racial Diversity in the lifestyle

[Chicup]

Originally posted by MattMann
no talk about black women who fantasize about having sex with a white man

I wonder if this is really true. I'd say about 1/2 the interracial couples are black women with white men so some black women are into it . Now maybe the fantasy part isn't there since there isn't the 'forbiden fruit' aspect that some white women may feel twords black men.

[highlander]

As someone that has been in white male/black female couples:
I would have to say the forbidden fruit aspect is VERY definitely
there. My girlfriends got some _definite_ hassles from friends/relatives for dating a white dude. In Chicago, my experience was that white male/black female couples got a LOT of stares etc. 20 years ago.

You are just looking at things from a "white" perspective.

Originally posted by Chicup
I wonder if this is really true. I'd say about 1/2 the interracial couples are black women with white men so some black women are into it . Now maybe the fantasy part isn't there since there isn't the 'forbiden fruit' aspect that some white women may feel twords black men.

[Chicup]

Originally posted by highlander
As someone that has been in white male/black female couples:
I would have to say the forbidden fruit aspect is VERY definitely
there. My girlfriends got some _definite_ hassles from friends/relatives for dating a white dude. In Chicago, my experience was that white male/black female couples got a LOT of stares etc. 20 years ago.

You are just looking at things from a "white" perspective.

When I say forbidden fruit I am not talking about acceptance. As an example two gay men walking down the street, wearing pink tu-tu's with their hands on each others butts would get a lot of stairs, and their parents and friends might not approve but its not a 'forbidden fruit'.

White men and black women have a very long history in this country, and while I've never seen a study, I'm willing to bet that until the last 20 years a large majority of the mixed race children had black mothers. It is still not accepted by a lot of people, but it doesn't nearly have the same effect as a white woman with a black man in terms of 'shock value', though obviously its a lot less now.

In the typical racist fears, the WORST thing a black man could do would be to have sex with a white woman. Murder, theft, paled in comparison to it, even if the white woman was willing.

But what’s funny is that for some women this would have something of an opposite effect. You were not suppose to have sex with a black man, you were told not to, it would be a scandal, but you would wonder what it would be like. There are possible reasons for this and its mostly behavior and genetics (we have sex for reproduction in order to have diversity, so seeking out 'different' males is part of it), and its quite fascinating.

So the forbidden fruit I speak of, is what leads to adds like 'My white wife craves black cock' (and that’s a quote).

[lauriern]

Hmm, see I am the mainstream here on the poll. I have been to a few clubs that have "interracial" nights but that means a few black males show up. Have come across few black couples that are in the lifestyle, more black male/white female couples. I could go into the NASCAR thing but suffice to say, swinging lags behind mainstream America in accepting diversity. This is one of the dirty hidden secrets of the lifestyle, just like the no bimales allowed thing.

[Bu&Sandra]

Well I guess we are an interacial couple as I am Italian American and Bu is Asian Indian. We have never really thought of ourselves as interacial until a survey like this comes up. We go to Clubs and usually he is the only Indian in the crowd and we have been rejected by many a couple due to his Indianess. People have just as many stereotypes about INdians as they do about black, hispanics etc. Indians are smelly, indians are terrorists , yadda. While in truth people forget that INdians invented the Kama Sutra . My husband is an intelligent sensitive man who also happens to be an incredible lover, but due to his race maybe women just pass on him.
Most of the clubs we have gone to are about 90% percent white, 10% other . Mostly upper middle class professionals, but predjudice knows no boundries. We however will swing with anyone who we are attracted to. For me I wish there were more Indian men in swinging as they are my cup of tea.

[sensuality]

Unfortunately, there are still a lot of racial issues in this world of ours.As I've said on other posts,my hunny's mexican and I'm all mixed up Cherokee Indian, french,hungarian,irish,english...and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find a little african american somewhere in the mix...who knows. And...who cares?? I truly believe you should really get to know someone before you blow them off...because skin color and nationality is a shallow reason to reject someone you might otherwise truly get along with. We won't associate with prejudice people, and it doesn't take too much to find out if someone is prejudice, especially when you're already in a mixed relationship!Hats off to everyone who rises above judging someone solely on their race!

[vancpl]

Bu & Sandra

I am curious about your not considering East Indian-white relationships as interracial at all. It is to a large extent true that most Indian-Americans are very successful and rich and generally constitute the elite today and have been whiter than white (pun intended) for all intents and purposes.

I am a Canadian of First nations (native), Italian mix and actually ended up looking very Indian. In fact most people would not believe it if I am told them that I am not East Indian. In Vancouver (where I was born and lived) things are generally quite accepting and Indian guys are considered quite hot...at least these days. I am no Brad Pitt, but I am OK looking and I have been hit on by more women than one might expect. I have had similar experiences in many parts of the US.

My guess is, your husband got rejected more because of the way he looks, personality etc. than because of his race. Your assuming these rejections were because of his race maybe misplaced. My experience (passing off for an Indian) has been quite good, because I am exotic , spiritual, tantric sex and whatnots...


p.s I have heard more racist comments about "stinking" french, or "stinking" russians than anyone else. Racism is...unfortunately...everywhere.

[sensuality]

I think the problem with racism is ignorance,point blank.For instance, with the East Indian situation, people of any type of eastern indian ethnicity are lumped into one category...usually arab. Which, is ridiculous, but nonetheless it happens.Same thing if you speak spanish, people will usually lump you into the category of being Mexican,when a lot of different nationalities speak spanish...it's just a stereotype! I believe a lot of people reject people solely on their race and I've seen it with my own eyes.It's too much to write here, but I can attest to the theory that her husband was rejected solely for his race,or whatever race they felt he was.Sad, isn't it?

[akamgaxoxo]

I'd venture to say that both my hubby and I are pretty open to most races...our theory is whatever gets your engine going, then go with that. Though I don't have the interest in choosing any particular interracial mix to with play with, as I see sometimes on Swing Lifestyle, I do love latin men. This has always been a little fetish for me facelick ...and well my hubby I think he would be open either way.

[Bu&Sandra]

My guess is, your husband got rejected more because of the way he looks, personality etc. than because of his race. Your assuming these rejections were because of his race maybe misplaced. My experience (passing off for an Indian) has been quite good, because I am exotic , spiritual, tantric sex and whatnots...

As much as I would like to believe my husband has been rejected because he is an obnoxious ouf, that has not been the case. My husband is very attractive, well educated and as you mentioned financially very secure. People have out and out said " oh we thought your husband was hispanic, my wife won;t touch a dirty Indian"
My husband does not have as much as an Indian accent and yes he does get grouped into the "arab " catagory as he lived in the UAE for 11 years. He is funny, blends in easily with people and can be the life of the party. We base these rejections on the fact we have been told it is because he is Indian.


"I am curious about your not considering East Indian-white relationships as interracial at all. It is to a large extent true that most Indian-Americans are very successful and rich and generally constitute the elite today and have been whiter than white (pun intended) for all intents and purposes."

I guess the fact that I was brought up not to like or dislike a person based on race or skin color that I never gave it much thought. The fact the my husband is Indian never much occured to me as a problem. He to me is like all other husbands he never listens, has to be nagged to take out the garbage or walk the dog, so he is no different then the Russian or Black husbands in my neighbor hood.

As far as the predjudice thing goes we have found less of in metro area clubs, rather then the rural ones we have gone to. We never base our decision on race it is personality, personality, personality for us. My feeling is that any woman that rejects him on his race is the loser, because he is fabulous.

[Bu&Sandra]

please raead my above post with a grain of salt i was attempting to cut and paste another persons reply . With no sucess however so if my response seems odd sorry

[hotcplinewa]

I have always had an attraction for black men. I am a petite (4'11", 100') white woman. I dated a black man in college but was never intimate with him. When hubby and I first started discussing swinging / 3-some, I said I would be open to having a black man. My hubby knows of my attraction and was in agreement. It was months later, while out to dinner, that I met a black man at the bar during after dinner drinks. The three of us talked all night and I made it very clear (non-verbally) that I was attracted to him. When I went to the ladies room, my husband confronted the gentlemen about having sex with me. As it turns out they had arranged a little surprise for me. The following weekend we ran into the same guy at our favorite restaurant. He and hubby had already arranged a Hotel room and were planning on seducing me. We all had a wonderful dinner together and afterwards we all went acrossed the street to the hotel. I was a little taken back because I was still in the dark, but secretly I was hoping this was going to be the night I had a black man. Once in the room, hubby mixed a couple drinks and both of them began to seduce me. The soft touches, kisses and exploring hands last forever. We all slowly undressed and I was getting full service from 2 men. When hubby was licking my pussy I put another mans cock in my mouth for the first time. His cock grew harder in my mouth. It was the longest and thickest thing I had ever seen. Then hubby began rubbing my favorite pussy lube all over and in and out of my pussy. He then whispered in my ear to take him and I did. His cock easily slid into my little shaved white pussy. My legs were spread far and wide and pinned back to my shoulders. He fucked me with such rythm and I want his cum so bad. When he asked me where I wanted his cum, I looked at hubby for assurance and he gave me the nod. Soon hot cum was being shot into my bald pussy. It was so much that when he withdrew, it immediately began to drip out. I took him again into my mouth and clean him off. Then hubby mounted my full pussy and pounded my pussy again, shooting his load into my dripping pussy. Since then we have had my lover over many times. Sometimes hubby just watches me suck him off and get fucked. Other times he joins in. Next weekend we are going to a hip-hop club that has a large black male population. My lover is going to be there too. I bought a really short mini tube dress and new heels for the night. I never wear (well hardly ever) panties and I'm sure that will cum in handy. The plan is to the white bitch in 4-5 man (all black) gangbang. Hubby has dared me to get fucked in the club by a black stud. He says I won't do it. Won't he be surprised when I show him my dripping pussy during the night. facelick

[munk33kitt3r]

We also look at a person/persons personality then the color of there skin.... We get along with everyone... It would be a waste not to get to know all.

*KITTER*

[robnbarb]

Funny me and the wife were discussing about how she was apporched by a black man when she was single (long before meeting me).

She refused not because he was black, but because he kept making a big deal about he was black. the kind of "I'm black so I am a big man down there" kind of aditude that she finds to be a major turn off. Baicily she felt he was being a jerk and disrespecting her cause she was white. I am not sure how common of an occurence that is, but I have heard it from White female freinds before as well, not all, but some.

SO with that I would say that race would only become an issue if someone else made it one.

[sxyblkcouple]

We like all people as long as they are attractive. We have noticed that the clubs that we frequent are not very diverse though so limits our chance at diversity.