Personality Types and Swinging

[sexypairca]

This result is for the female half

Your Type is
ESTJ

Extroverted 100
Sensing 1
Thinking100
Judging44

Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
very expressed extrovert
slightly expressed sensing personality
very expressed thinking personality
moderately expressed judging personality

[Pepper & Drew]

ENFPs have what some call a "silly switch." They can be intellectual, serious, all business for a while, but whenever they get the chance, they flip that switch and become CAPTAIN WILDCHILD, the scourge of the swimming pool, ticklers par excellence. Sometimes they may even appear intoxicated when the "switch" is flipped.

One study has shown that ENFPs are significantly overrepresented in psychodrama. Most have a natural propensity for role-playing and acting.

ENFPs like to tell funny stories, especially about their friends. This penchant may be why many are attracted to journalism. I kid one of my ENFP friends that if I want the sixth fleet to know something, I'll just tell him.

ENFPs are global learners. Close enough is satisfactory to the ENFP, which may unnerve more precise thinking types, especially with such things as piano practice ("three quarter notes or four ... what's the difference?") Amazingly, some ENFPs are adept at exacting disciplines such as mathematics.

Friends are what life is about to ENFPs, moreso even than the other NFs. They hold up their end of the relationship, sometimes being victimized by less caring individuals.

Although I haven't taken this particular personality test, a former employer used a similar typed test to determine whether you'd be a good fit for a particular position or not. The results with that sound very similiar to this.

It's eerily correct, I think...

Pepper

[Thrax]

I took the test twice in the '90s and both times I came up ISTJ, and I was almost off the charts on the I, T, and J. Strange for a guy who considers himself "moderate." When I read the M-B description of an ISTJ male, though, it was almost eerie how 90+% fit my personality. This wasn't some vague horoscope description, this was me!

Going through the M-B program the first time (when I was in my late 30s) was one of the personality watersheds of my life. I finally had an idea WHY I act like I do, which helped me counteract the aspects of my personality that I am not particularly fond of.

I am an extreme Introvert in a U.S. society which seems to prize Extroverts, and, if I remember correctly, on average more than 70% of Americans are Extroverts. And the percentage of MALE Extroverts is higher. Talk about swimming against the tide... One of the things I really identified with was that some Introverts don't appear to be shy, but are perceived as arrogant. THAT hurt.

The M-B was one of the things that helped me think of ways to at least appear more extroverted, and it seems to have worked. At vanilla parties and other functions, and at swinger events, when I realize I'm "introverting" I now have an idea of what's happening and I have some methods of counteracting it. Many Extroverts have no idea what I'm talking about -- okay, there are some of you out there that know -- but I'm sure many of you Introverts do. Actually, when I took this test, many of my E co-workers were surprised that I was an extreme I. But it was just that I had already learned how to compensate for some of my I tendencies, and they hadn't recognized that.

One of the interesting points our M-B moderator made was that some people are forever encased in their personality. They don't change. However, others, with events or just time, may even end up in old age as almost opposite of what they were in their youth. ISTJs are rule-following, traditional people. I may never be a true E but I find myself gravitating toward a "freer" lifestyle as I age. Maybe I'm changing, or maybe I just need to know EXACTLY what the rules are, so when I break them, I know I'm breaking them.

Uh...anyone wanna help me extrovert (he asked shyly)?

(And honestly, for those of you who might be worried about it, in sexual situations I NEVER talk as much as I type here. )

Thrax

[MB1991]

Thrax,

In the general population, introverts (Kiersey or M/B I types) are only 25% of the population and you're quite right, we (I'm an Intp and my wife is Intj) are very often percieved as arrogant and aloof. The good news for introverted swingers is that in this survey, so far it looks like the I/E ratio is 1:1 rather than 1:3.

(In your case, ISTJs are twice as common in the Lifestyle as they are in the vertical world)

Breaking each letter pair down by type, so far we've got:

I/E
General population: 25:75
Swingers: 50:50

N/S
General population: 25:75
Swingers: 66:34

T/F
General population: 38:62
Swingers: 50:50

P/J
General population: 53:47
Swingers: 33:67

[MB1991]

Originally Posted by MB1991

Typically the results in a general society would be:
Artisan - 40%
Guardian - 35%
Idealist - 15%
Rational - 10%

Here we're showing
Artisan - 13%
Guardian - 22%
Idealist - 28%
Rational - 37%

Updated the numbers again and this is, by far, the most RATIONAL group I've ever seen!

[intuition897]

That's great MB! It's nice to see the numbers broken down into relevant information like that. My hubby's a stats man too.

[MB1991]

Originally Posted by intuition897

That's great MB! It's nice to see the numbers broken down into relevant information like that. My hubby's a stats man too.

It's a "P" thing. (as in INTP)

[MB1991]

Typically the results in a general society would be:
Artisan - 40%
Guardian - 35%
Idealist - 15%
Rational - 10%

Here we're showing
Artisan - 12%
Guardian - 22%
Idealist - 26%
Rational - 40%

Since we're at 100 responses it seems like a time to update the numbers (while the arithmetic is easy!)

We're still running VERY wierd (and in a good way for us rationals)

Right now the rarest type in society at large (the elusive INTJ) is by far the most common type in the Lifestyle with 21% responding as INTJs. In society at large, INTJs are only 1% of the population so given the limited number of INTJs and the limited - but less so - population that play it looks like at least 1/3 of all INTJs out there swing. Wierd.

[intuition897]

Just voted Mr. intuition in. He's an ISTJ: Guardian Inspector. The description fits him perfectly.

The most-selected option is the INTJ: Rational Mastermind. From the Kiersey Temperment Sorter website:

All Rationals are good at planning operations, but Masterminds are head and shoulders above all the rest in contingency planning. Complex operations involve many steps or stages, one following another in a necessary progression, and Masterminds are naturally able to grasp how each one leads to the next, and to prepare alternatives for difficulties that are likely to arise any step of the way. Trying to anticipate every contingency, Masterminds never set off on their current project without a Plan A firmly in mind, but they are always prepared to switch to Plan B or C or D if need be.

Masterminds are rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population, and they are rarely encountered outside their office, factory, school, or laboratory. Although they are highly capable leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once they take charge, however, they are thoroughgoing pragmatists. Masterminds are certain that efficiency is indispensable in a well-run organization, and if they encounter inefficiency-any waste of human and material resources-they are quick to realign operations and reassign personnel. Masterminds do not feel bound by established rules and procedures, and traditional authority does not impress them, nor do slogans or catchwords. Only ideas that make sense to them are adopted; those that don't, aren't, no matter who thought of them. Remember, their aim is always maximum efficiency.

In their careers, Masterminds usually rise to positions of responsibility, for they work long and hard and are dedicated in their pursuit of goals, sparing neither their own time and effort nor that of their colleagues and employees. Problem-solving is highly stimulating to Masterminds, who love responding to tangled systems that require careful sorting out. Ordinarily, they verbalize the positive and avoid comments of a negative nature; they are more interested in moving an organization forward than dwelling on mistakes of the past.

Masterminds tend to be much more definite and self-confident than other Rationals, having usually developed a very strong will. Decisions come easily to them; in fact, they can hardly rest until they have things settled and decided. But before they decide anything, they must do the research. Masterminds are highly theoretical, but they insist on looking at all available data before they embrace an idea, and they are suspicious of any statement that is based on shoddy research, or that is not checked against reality.

[Thrax]

Well, all this Myers-Briggs stuff has been a real eye-opener for me. I'm thinking of modifying my personals ad:

"Fit single male ISTJ, HWP, treasures privacy, likes reading, gardening, and long walks on the beach. Seeks extroverted woman in touch with her feelings and needing to bring some spontaneity to a relationship. That or you must have big boobs."

[MB1991]

Originally Posted by Thrax

Well, all this Myers-Briggs stuff has been a real eye-opener for me. I'm thinking of modifying my personals ad:

"Fit single male ISTJ, HWP, treasures privacy, likes reading, gardening, and long walks on the beach. Seeks extroverted woman in touch with her feelings and needing to bring some spontaneity to a relationship. That or you must have big boobs."

So what you're really saying (and trying to save you any per-word charges) is: SM ISTJ HWP ISO SF ESTP w/DD

[Thrax]

Originally Posted by MB1991

So what you're really saying (and trying to save you any per-word charges) is: SM ISTJ HWP ISO SF ESTP w/DD

Aaahhh...thanks for your input. That helped me see that the ESTP thing is too limiting. Oh, the quandary of casting the wide net, or appealing to one group's emotions. Dammit. Life is tough.

Not that it's of much importance but how many female ESTPs are there in relation to the general U.S. female population? Just askin'.

[MB1991]

Originally Posted by Thrax

Not that it's of much importance but how many female ESTPs are there in relation to the general U.S. female population? Just askin'.

Well, ESTPs make up about 11.4% of the general population so let's see. Assuming the break down by gender is about even that gives a general U.S. female ESTP population of about 16,800,000.

Of course, you probably want to narrow that down by age at least a little...

(Just to be a little discouraging, though, if the poll here is of any value, ESTPs only make up about 1% of the swinging population so your odds drop more than a bit.)

[The Fuse]

Okay, I'm a little late to this thread, but--

Me: ENTJ
Him: INTP

There were a couple of things I didn't see mentioned when I skimmed over the six pages of posts on this thread. Apologies if I missed them.

1. The terms "Extrovert" and "Introvert" appear to refer to whether a person, by and large, gets energy from being around others or gives up energy by being around others. So an introvert may have no problem with a roomful of people, but feel drained after they've talked to several. An extrovert feels more energized after a party. I am a slightly expressed extrovert-- I love talking to new people and finding out things about them, but at a certain point I just want to go home and shut down.

2. A company I worked for sent a bunch of us to a great M-B seminar. One of the things I learned there is that introverts, as a group, tend to be more territorial. The example our instructor gave was that if you stroll over to an extrovert's desk, pick up a pen and start using it, that's fine with the extrovert. Do the same thing to an introvert and you're likely to get a nasty look and provoke bad feelings. What do the introverts here think of that? Is it true or a load of bull? If it rings true, does that mean that introverts are more disposed toward feelings of jealousy than extroverts? I think this is really interesting, and the relevance to swinging is obvious.

Thanks for any responses.

[sereneiders]

I am ENFJ, and i'd say I fit the description, altough I would score my J higher because of some questions ambiguities (probabily pertaining to the language barrier since English isn't my born language.

11% Extroverted
62% Intuitive
25% Feeling
22% Judging

- slightly expressed extrovert
- distinctively expressed intuitive personality
- moderately expressed feeling personality
- slightly expressed judging personality