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View Poll Results: Are you intimidated by income differences?
We are not likely to contact people who appear to be of higher income 4 4.44%
We are not likely to contact people who appear to be of lower income 9 10.00%
Income does not affect our decision to contact a couple 77 85.56%
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Old 11-08-2002, 10:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question would someone's income be a factor in your decision to contact them?

There was a topic that came up in conversation the other day, and we wanted to get other swingers’ opinions on this. The conversation was about income levels; how some people are a little intimidated by people with larger incomes, and ones with larger incomes are a little snobbish about lower incomes. This spawned a few questions with us.

1. If you have a lower income level, does this hinder you from writing other swingers if their profile seems “uppity,” (pics taken on fancy boats, in large houses, by nice cars, etc.)

2. If you have a larger income level, does this hinder you from writing other swingers if their profile seems “poor,” (pics taken in or by mobile homes, in small houses, old cars, etc.)

3. Income does not come into play with the decision to contact or not contact other swingers.

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Old 11-08-2002, 11:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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We feel we have profound experience with both of the levels of income you refer to. No, neither level bothers us.

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We are middle-income right now, and are moving up to high income.

We base our bigotry on intelligence and education more then income. Income can be awkward, its hard to talk about your vaction with someone who is late on their rent, but its a lot worse to try to discuss the economy with someone who thinks the treasury department deals with burried treasure.
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We don't look at income when meeting someone But now if we meet then and they are of hight income status then us and thats all they talk about.. Then we have a problem..

Example.. we were at a meet and greet and met this couple and all the guy talked about what how he bought is wife a sports car and they have all this money and for someone in our situtation Where money is tight due to child support and then us having an 18month old. We feel like it is being rubbed in our face and at times we feel belittled because of it..
But for another example we have met a couple that again is of upper income that we get a long great with.. they don't brag about their money and how they can buy this and that.. And yes understand how things are for us.. and have given advice to us too. <img border="0" alt="[kiss]" title="" src="graemlins/kiss1.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by FunFLcpl:
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3. Income does not come into play with the decision to contact or not contact other swingers. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It does not come into play for us. We are more into compatability than the old "who has what".

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Income levels could be a factor with those with whom you choose to play. I can't really see how these young couples can afford to hit HedoII every year when we can just manage car insurance. Then again, you are not entering a contest here, you just want to play. If the people you meet up with are not snobs about their money, then I wouldn't worry too much about it. Sportync
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It does not come into play for us. We are more into compatability than the old "who has what".
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Double ditto on this. When you start excluding those from your play and/or as friends who may not be at the same point, on the economic scale, that you are...you greatly diminish your playing/friendship field.

One thing that friends have said to me that I take pride in is that I seem to be just as comfortable in talking with and friendly to a street person as I am with those who are executives/successful business owners. I have always thought that has been the highest compliment a person can pay to me. To me, it means I'm not an elitist (which if I was, would absolutely make my mother the happiest mother on the face of the earth) and that I value everyone.

That couple who may be struggling to make ends meet every month today, may be the couple who could buy and sell your ass a million times over in a few years.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It does not come into play for us. We are more into compatability than the old "who has what". </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's not the money that matters. I know couples that could buy and sell me many times over, but they are down to earth, average everyday folks. You would never know that they are millionaires. By the same token, I know people who struggle to meet their monthly obligations, and they're assholes. Vice-versa also applies here.

Good people come in all shapes, colors, and income brackets. Those are the people we're looking for. Assholes (unfortunatly) also come in all shapes, colors and income brackets. Those are the people we try like hell to avoid.
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Money is not part of our selection criteria. But we are in the higher income bracket and from time to time we find that some couples of lesser financial means are intimidated.

Its not that we talk about our money. But once you develop a relationship with a couple, you let them on the 'inside' of your life. They see the home you live in. They know what you do for a living. All these things establish an income 'expectation' in the minds of the other couple.

Some can deal with it -- no problem
Others can't deal with it -- bye bye.

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Hmmm. Come to think about it, the two couples we had long term relationships with were both financially secure while two of the non-successful experiences were not.

While we've always attributed the problems to other incompatibilities, perhaps it is as simple as "Water seeks it's own level..."

We'll have to ponder this question more...

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I guess I fall into that other category I am not of a higher income level.and I feel some what intimitidated of people that are obviuosly of a higher income bracket. It is not the income level that bothers me as much as it is an eduction level that bother's me the most. I find it hard to communicate with people of a much higher education. But in any case that is my hang up not there's.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by C@YWMI:
<strong>I guess I fall into that other category I am not of a higher income level.and I feel some what intimitidated of people that are obviuosly of a higher income bracket. It is not the income level that bothers me as much as it is an eduction level that bother's me the most. I find it hard to communicate with people of a much higher education. But in any case that is my hang up not there's.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am going to try real hard to explain something here, I'll probably fail, but what the hell.

We live in a neighborhood that is considered to be affluent for our county. If the city name is mentioned many turn their noses up as though we are too snobbish to talk to. My husband has lived here all of his life, I have only been here for 9 years. The funny thing is, as intimidated as I was to move into this area, I now find it funny. We all put our clothes on the same way, we care about our neighbors and their welfare. Sure some make a heck of a lot of money, but you will see these same people on their off days in blue jeans raking their lawns or pulling weeds and chasing kids like no tomorrow.

My husband has an MS degree. He is a hands on business man, one that works hard in his field. He cannot type worth a damn and usually has me do all of the typing for him. He has only recently learned how to effectively use the mouse when it comes to a computer. (It took forever to learn right click vs left click...LOL)

I on the other had left high school early (sex got in the way) and was 30 before I decided that I needed and received my GED. I did attend some college afterwards, but with 2 jobs and 3 kids, it was somewhat difficult to master. What I did come away with is LIFE experience. There is no monetary replacement for that.

My point being here, don't feel intimidated by anyone or any person. Sure you may not feel comfortable with someone that prefers to dine in 5 star restaurants, (I wouldn't either, tho I have been forced to do so), take it to an intellectual level, don't be intimidated and be open enough to see what you may have in common, intellectually. You would be suprised how appealing and refreshing that is to those that you meet. If you are snobbed, heck ya didn't wanna know 'em anyway.

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Education Intimidation .... never gave that a lot of thought before, but i can clearly see that this could be an issue for some.

I think its important to remember that education comes in all forms. For example, i have a rather high IQ and advanced degree and my best friend in the world didn't even finish grammar school! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

We both think its interesting ...

How do we make it work? While he's not school educated, he has the most common sense of any person i know. Plus he's a mechanical genius (can fix anything) -- while i have five thumbs.

I guess you could say that we each admire the other's strengths and that admiration overshadows any focus on our respective weakness.

So next time you start to feel intimidated by someone with higher education, think about the things YOU are best at ... and then challenge their competency and knowledge on that!!! Who knows, you might start intimidating them <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by sexualhealingmn:
<strong>So next time you start to feel intimidated by someone with higher education, think about the things YOU are best at ... and then challenge their competency and knowledge on that!!! Who knows, you might start intimidating them.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So very well said. My husband can give you the latest up to the minute finances of darn near every company that ever existed since the year 1700. However, he can't even begin to figure out how to tell when a pasta has reached the point that it needs to be pulled off the stove. After many futile attempts to try and teach him, I resorted to saying "Hey take a piece and throw it on the wall! If it sticks...it's done." He does make a killer spaghetti sauce though. It is the only thing he knows how to cook, (that is, if I monitor the stove...he has no clue on that eiher) otherwise he is hot on his phone to call and order carry out, the same phone that he has no clue that it has multiple functions.

He is also a motorhead who can solve any sort of problem, for "any" sort of vehicle, but yet can't figure out how to operate the VCR. :::shaking head::: I gave up on that one several years ago! I don't think I'll help him with the DVD player yet, my patience won't allow it and besides they will probably be obsolete anyway before I could teach him how to turn it on and off. ROFL!

Hmmmm wondering now how we ever got together...Opposites do attract! And I know for a fact this applies in the world of swinging also.

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OK…we’re now talking education. “Now I don’t want to get off on a rant here,” but in my experience…and this entire post IS being stereotypical…people with a higher level of education have a higher level of “snobbishness” to them. I’m not talking BS, BA, or even MA degrees. I’m talking PhD’s. Not all of em mind you, but the majority of PhD’s I have met have had the “Holier than Tho” attitude. One in particular stands out…Lori…I’m referring to the email I sent you….

Also, it seems to me that the higher level of education you have, the less common sense you seem to have retained. It’s like you’re preoccupied with the cure for cancer and forgot how to change a light bulb. Sometimes it’s just coincidence that higher education means higher income when it comes to the reason you are intimidated by someone. Those PhD’s out there that do not fit this stereotype, I salute you. You are few and far between.

Everyone is attracted to something different. But most folks like to be around people just like themselves. Sharing common interests and experiences are the building blocks of friendship. If that’s what you’re looking for in a swinging relationship, then I suggest that you seek out couples in this category.

If on the other hand, you are not as interested in a relationship outside of the bedroom, then there may be more leeway for meeting couples in a different educational/income “bracket” than yourselves.

Remember, in truth it doesn’t matter what your education level and income bracket is. It’s who you are and how you deal with life that matters. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Assholes come in all colors, shapes, sizes, income brackets and education levels. But so do good people.

I would like to close this post by saying that I have 3 degrees, AA, BA and BS. I do not consider myself HIGHLY educated, but I am educated. I also consider myself to have retained the common sense that I gained from 13 years of military life. We’re looking for couples “just like us!” “Of course, that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong.”
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