Would you Attend a church for swingers

[teknurse]

My wife became active in a church a few years ago, about the time we started swinging. We were both dissatisfied with the close minded views of churches in general. She started attending the Unitarian Universalist church and was quite happy with it. I attended a few Sundays myself just to scope it out. A large percentage of the people there are gay/lesbian as it is the only church around that would welcome them openly. While I myself stay as far away as possible from things religious, I didn't feel like they were into the hard sell, and the major tenet of their faith seemed to be 'can't we all just get along?'. There were Buddhists, Taoists, Wiccans, you name it, all were welcome. While I didn't see anybody openly proclaim that they llived as swingers, I don't see as it would be relevant. At least they're open minded.

[caveman]

Abide the Wiccan rede ye must, in perfect love and perfect trust, and ever mind the rule of three...... what you send out comes back to thee. We follow the pagan mindset that your body is your sanctuary and nature your Holy Ground, We are true believers

[JustAskJulie]

Probably not. It would take a lot to convince me to attend a church of any kind... and if I were to do so it would be based on the overall church atmosphere and membership.

[Malachista]

As I am a strictly practicing atheist I would see such a church as just another religous fraud

[crazi429]

Thats a hard one to answer I said yes just because If there was such a church that didn't preach hard core religion I might be interested. I am not religious I do not claim to be atheist I refer to myself as a questioner. I believe in a higher being out there somewhere. But have no clue who or what it is. There are to many different religions out there to say any one is the only one.

[realcplub2]

Ok.. lets get one thing out fo the way first..

Talking to a church offical in any capacity, about swinging, will bring up two or three quick answers, first the ten commandments.. and their view on Adultery The second Sodomn and Gamora.. (hmm is that why some folks TASTE salty?) And finally, OMG!! its a SIN..

Now, as far as attending a church, I have always held the belief that so long as you arent hurting anyone, and not getting hurt yourself, its all good.. But being told repeatedly that you are gonna burn in hell for all eternity for this infraction or that one.. Nah not for me..

Hence I belong to the church of BOB.. rules are simple.. dont take the lords name in vain, unless its an exclaimation during orgasm.. what better way to honor a generous God..

And again, Dont screw anyone, unless they ask nicely..

[dayhiker]

With almost 2/3rds of those replying to this poly saying they would, it would be nice to have a church like this around. I'm aware that this has been tried a few times but to my knowledge this hasn't in a real way that lasted.

Hope about some comments about if you attended a church and swinging was acceptable, would you attend and be open about attending? This woud out those who attended!

Should the church have home groups where swinging activities could take place? How seperated should the church be from swinging activities?

anyone have thoughts?

[intuition897]

Hi dayhiker, nice to see you on here again!

I responded to this thread a long time ago and my views haven't changed much. I still don't think I'd go to a church JUST because it catered to swingers. I think I'd probably be drawn to it because I would have finally - FINALLY - have found a group of people of like minds whose reason for gathering is fellowship, encouragement and the mutual love and praise of something greater than ourselves. I keep looking for that joyous child-like wonder at all those things in our vast universe that our feeble human brains cannot grasp, coupled with keen logic, a desire for self-enrichment and improvement, and the realization that Love is the answer to every question. In short, I search for others who have a burning desire to search for truth, yet have the humility to realize their limitations and admit that they truly cannot know anything with any certainty.

I actually visited the Universal Life Church page and am tempted to get my online ordination, if for no other reason than to prove a point. That ordination, like marriage, is merely a rubber stamp. People put such importance on the wedding, the ceremony, the vows, the procedure, the legality of the whole thing... I'm sorry folks. God just doesn't give a crap about our silly little rules. He see hearts, and I don't care if the marriage was officiated by the Pope himself: if the hearts of the couple involved were not in the right place, then the marriage was null and void from the get-go. I just have no patience for such hypocrisy and narrow-minded bullshit.

I know that we have our share of atheists on the board here, and I can respect that we are each on our own personal journey through life. I cannot judge another person's beliefs. I just believe we all end up in the same place, standing before God. It's just that every path is different and has its own rhythm and flow. All I'd ever ask anyone is to please not underestimate my intelligence or sense of logic or emotional, spiritual, or psychological development just because I believe in God. I've seen a few comments here that suggest that, if one believes in God, one must have relinquished the right or desire to think independently or critically, instead choosing to follow something blindly and hiding behind it whenever the going got tough. That may be true in some cases, but I think it's just as short-sighted to believe that of every person of faith as it is for those persons of faith of whom these assumptions are true.

[prettylady]

I have little time for organized religion.
I like to live well, treat people as I would be treated, and most importantly sleep in on sunday mornings.
Attending church would ruin my favorit sunday past time.
Your friend,
Prettylady

[Chitowndk4u]

I voted no because I don't do church or religion.

Wife wouldn't go because she thinks the Bible is literal.

[sweet_tna]

To quote Groucho Marx, "I don't want to belong to any club that will accept people like me as a member."

Seriously, I voted no because I wouldn't choose a church simply because it supported the lifestyle. It would depend largely on what other beliefs the church subscribed to, and how closely they matched my own beliefs.

=)

[swing_style]

I voted yes that I would attend a church for swingers, but not because they supported swinging. Honestly I wouldn't be interested in knowing what others were doing in their personal life, because that wouldn't be the reason I was there in the first place. I would attend any church that feed my desire for Knowledge, that supported me on my spiritual journey, rather it was the mainstream beliefs or not. The important thing to me would be the freedom to decide what the TRUTH is for me.

[bbarnsworth]

Originally Posted by Chitowndk4u

I voted no because I don't do church or religion.

Wife wouldn't go because she thinks the Bible is literal.

Even the old testament?

[Chitowndk4u]

Originally Posted by bbarnsworth

Even the old testament?

Yep. All of it.

I try to explain why I feel it isn't as literal as it is purported to be, but she is super religious and thinks the one time we did swap partners is a sin and that's why she isn't willing to do it again.

Maybe I am being harsh. I do know that she is ashamed of our experience because of her religious brain-washing.

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by Chitowndk4u

Maybe I am being harsh. I do know that she is ashamed of our experience because of her religious brain-washing.

It is tough to overcome a lifetime of indoctrination and moral conditioning. People can be so locked into their faith because of the fear that is ingrained into it.

There are christian swingers and I admire them for being able to apply the bible without having it ruin their lives. But I also understand people that are really sold out on their beliefs. I feel sorry for them if it repressive, but having once been a pastor, I "get it."

But I also feel your frustration. Religion - like sex - is really tough to handle if you and your spouse aren't on the same page. In this case, you have different views on both. Here's hoping you agree on politics!

I'm sorry that is an issue at your home. That is tough.

Spoomonkey