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Old 03-31-2004, 01:04 AM   #16 (permalink)
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You know any on premise clubs in Ontario right now?
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name it .. 'cause none exist.
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About 'the beautiful ones'...I was soooo worried about being frowned upon because I carry a little extra padding since the three kids...etc etc

NOTHING cured that more for me than a week at Hedo...with EVERYONE walking around naked, you got to meet the real person, AND see that not everyone is as beautiful as the books and magazines would have you believe.

The BEST advice I ever got, and I saw it here too, was go to the grocery store or large retail store and look around and those are the kinds of people who swing...

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buff ppl scare me lmao I'd be afraid to be with a guy that could bench press me . . . and NO OFFENCE to skinny woman . . but sometimes they scare me too . . .lol . . I lvoe to look . . but when it comes down to it I'd be afraid to break them in half in the bed lmao . . . I'm a BBW and quite proud of it . . .and oddly enough in just the short time sence I've joined the personals section 've started to descover alot of other ppl like me just the way i am too Even so though in the end it's ALOt easier to find your tipical * fit n trim ppl * then it is to find ppl who are intrested and looking for a woman with a little meat on her bones :P
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We are about 50/50 into looks and personality both. Likewise, we have met some hot couples that had big time personality/attitude issues that just turned us off more than if they were 500 pounds each.

Its ok to be picky (we are) but just keep in mind that just because some people aren't perfect 10's they can still be alot of fun to be with
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an aside.. is it the norm that a club has 240 people attend in an evening? Slutty wife? Vegas Lee? Close Encounters?
I think it could be the norm at the clubs that take place in "night club" style venues like Anchovies in Austin or Texas Players amongt a few others around the country. But it does sound unusually high to me.

The average attendance of our "meet and mingles" are 10-12 couples on average although we often get around 30-40 positive RSVP's and half turn up for some reason or the other.

Mind you we are a small niche club and still relatively new with under 100 member couples at present.

The average size of our Texas fetes was 15 to 25 couples. From all the swinger "scene and heard" over the years, that appears to be the norm at any average sized club. I don't know what the biggies like Trapeze in Atlanta, Platos in Florida or Red Rooster in Vegas might do. Something to maybe enquire to these clubs directly about?

Now...I'd like to offer my thoughts and ponderings on the "beautiful people" phenomenon if you care to listen. Otherwise feel free to ignore the rest of my post.

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We have one of those "beautiful people" clubs "up here" where 99.9% of our members come in pretty packages. Some wrapped up in pretty bows and gold Godiva-style boxes and others possessing the kind of beauty no camera could ever capture...and I say this in the most positive way imaginable..think Barbra Streisand, Meryl Streep and Mira Sorvino for instance..all beautiful but not stereotypically so..

About half of our club is comprised of newbies and the other are the more heavy hitting varitety. So I can assure you a "beautiful party" is not necessarily a poser one! So we never discourage our members from attending other clubs if they are seeking instant gratification. There's a time and a place for everyone we feel and we are simply here to facilitate introductions in the most unassuming way we know of. Now something very interesting we've taken strong notice of is that the majourity of our members are genuinely as interested in a meeting of "like minds" just as they are a roll in the sack in a five star hotel or some other sweet ending! How kewl is that?

We do not see "beautiful people" in the group "posing" at all...we're all beautiful! Now what constitutes "beautiful" is truly a state of mind. Being the happy, sexy feminist I am, Mike and I have tried to discourage the unofficial Barbie Height Weight Scale we see some west coast clubs clinging to. We feel if any couple is bold enough to apply to a "bi and beautiful club" there must be good reason. We've seen stereotypical size 2 blonde barbies in serious liplocks with size12 brunette goddesses. No joke. It could be the comfort and safety levels are stratospheric at our club and there are in general good vibes floating all around.

One look at my Latin curves might change many a couples mind about the female half trying to lose those last ten pounds.
and I just looove it!

I hope I've given you or whoever is laying eyes on this some valuable insight from the BP side of things. I also hope you or many of you can find a club that might better suit you with little wasted time and effort.

Mwah!

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I can only speak for the Vegas Red Rooster on this matter.

On a normal Friday night there is 200 to 250 people total.
There is 350 plus people on most Saturday nights.
The Rooster is couples and singles, both male and female.

On Saturday night there will be about 125 to 150 couples and the rest are singles to make the 350 plus.

On avg. 800 people per week come to the Rooster.

They do have a couples only area but only about 25% of the couples use it.

On three day weekends we host what we call "Naked and Naughty Night" for the hardcore players that like to party. This night requires that all men must be naked and women can wear lingerie or less. We have about 250 people show up for this each time we do it. The most common complaint is that we do not have enough single men show up at it. Seems they get shy when they have to be totally naked all night.

On Halloween and New Years eve we can count on anywhere from 450 to 500 people showing up. These nights are wild!

You will find people anywhere from late 20's into their 60's at the Rooster on any given night. Avg. age group would be late 30's and into the 40's for most there. Since the avg age in the lifestyle these days seems to be about 40 then this group fits right in.

The Rooster has prided itself over 22 years of welcoming anyone in the lifestyle. Skinny, fat, tall, short, pretty or ugly. The lifestyle is about acceptance of others. They do their best to not put anyone into any "group" at all. Most of the people that go to clubs these days are not "players." We have spent the last few years watching that become more and more the case. Same with conventions, most that go to them do not play with others. They are there for their own reasons and it is all accepted as long as everyone respects eachothers rights.

For those interested, this year at the Vegas Convention I will be holding a three day seminar on this very subject and much more dealing with the "Lifestyle."

Have fun ya all!
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Thank you Slutty Wife and Vegas Lee

250 people aka 125 couples at a club per night here is only realized by one club, the longest running and most respected and not the one with 2 floors.

As my husband describes it, this established great club is like a stripper club gone wild.. what fun!!

We've also enjoyed the smaller clubs... the 50 or so that Slutty Wife speaks of...those are lovely and intimate.
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Slutty Wife,
Interesting what you said about club size, We go to Anchovies regularly and only twice been to other clubs-Friends in Austin and Wishes in Houston. They all were nightclub style venues. I didn't realize there were other types of clubs (I'm referring to off-premise) . Based on what you said-Anchovies is much larger than the norm. A very slow night there is about 25-30 couples or so.

Changing the subject-on your website you state that you love group sex-any type, but later state that you only soft swing. I'm confused-I thought that soft swing is just same room sex with you SO only. Am I missing something here?
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Changing the subject-on your website you state that you love group sex-any type, but later state that you only soft swing. I'm confused-I thought that soft swing is just same room sex with you SO only. Am I missing something here?
No, you're not missing anything.

Oh...I do *looove* group sex... it's my favourite kind of sex...and believe me I've had plenty in my day in all variations...
but we have been limiting ourselves to soft swinging as of late. It's definitely widened our pool of prospective dates!

We define "soft swinging" with another couple as saving intercourse with your partner. All other activity is game depending on who we are spending time with, their limits, etc. etc. These limits vary from couple to couple.

Mwah ;-*

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"Granted...no one is expected to meet and play everytime. The posers are the ones who rarely, if ever, get sexual with anyone. One club up here is total posers, yet states they are a swinger club. You just don't know til you go and see what goes on at a club.....or doesn't"

I am using the above quote from a post from yawanna. This isnt directed at her though, just using it to start my post.

I have a big problem with the term posers. Here is why.

When my husband & I got into the lifestyle a few years ago we made it very clear to everyone that showed interest in us that we are newbies, not sure how far we were going to go or how far we wanted to go. Many of the newbies we have met did the same thing. Since then we have never advertised who we sleep with,never posted on a message board saying "thanks to XX &XX for last night, we have always been pretty discreet. Now a few years later I have heard people refer to my husband & myself as "POSERS". When asked why we are labelled that they reply because we dont sleep with people, we dont swing.

I am not sure how to express this so please bare with me as I try to get my point across.

HOW DO THEY KNOW WE HAVENT SLEPT WITH PEOPLE???? head bang
For those people who call others posers please explain how you feel you have the right to do that. Just because these people have not slept with you does not make them a poser. Since when has being discreet with play partners make a person a poser?

WHEW ok done my rant for today. Thanks for listening. LOL
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I'm going to take a stab at this and guess that the "posers" in question were at an on premis club and never play at the club...not people who are discreet about their play partners. That's just a big ole guess though!
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Where are all the beautiful people?


I thought they were all right here on the Swingers Board!

Be Happy!
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My favorite pose is the one where a woman will put her hands on her hips and thrust out her chest in such a way as to accentuate the positive...

It is hard to know what a poser is... I mean - just because a person doesn't sleep with someone doesn't mean that they are not a swinger. They may be a different flavor - but they are swingers. However, I will "tag" a person a poser if I realize that they are in the club because they get a kick out of stringing people along; they are out there. I'd gladly soft swing with another couple, if that is what they are into, but some people are out there to "play" swinger, believe it or not. They show up on swing-personals, message boards and even clubs. And - if a couple I trust tells me that so-and-so are "posers" then I likely will not allow myself and/or Mrs Spoomonkey to waste our time. Life - and play nights - are just too doggone short...

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After reading the post about the guy who was "too hot to resist" and the woman who ran after him begging for more


I'd have to say that maybe the poster was refering to rediculious stories like this. I have yet to meet a guy that was so hot I wanted to beg. Of course I've never met a guy I had to beg.

Exspecially when I have a great hubby who's available morning, noon and night.

The woman has issues!!! head bang
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