Can a man have sex with a woman without physical attraction?

[yawanna]

oh for heaven's sake bear_n_hunny!

here...have one of the pills the vet gave me for my lion eerrrr....kat....he gets himself all wound up and scared and aggressive....we call it kitty prozac

Here in Ontario we have swinger clubs, off premise only, and house parties, to meet people at. Both offer dancing and if there is a man I think I might be interested in, during a dance or intimate conversation, I will give a 'caress'....to check the package. We will also kiss and run our hands over each other, some people lap dance, some women take their shirts off, hell I've even seen someone's bra fly overhead. (that time it wasn't mine ) It's called 'flirting' and it's one opportunity to excite as well as check

The men do not take such liberties unless expressly invited to, and perhaps it's my openness, maybe my soft hands, maybe the way I kiss I don't know but I have never had a man shriek or get offended. Never.

I did not say I was a 'size queen'. I said 3" won't do it for me. And there are 3" men at these events. At house parties often there is a hot tub and some men walk around in their 'all together' which is fine by me! No touching required unless it's play time

so chill baby

[LawDog]

Hey how are you good I hope. Well I have been swinging for 7 years. and if I am not atracted to the woman it is not as good as if she is my type.

Lawdog

[DevilzAdvokit]

Having the personal restraint and the discretion to wait for an opportunity where you actually find the person attractive in addition to having other favorable attributes and being purely superficial are two totally different things. One is being selective and one is being shallow.

Beauty isnt always fleeting. It is almost always relative but not necessarily transient. I used to work at a bar that was for the most part a trendy meat market in my early 20's. I was surrounded by tight young little hotties 24/7. None of these girls on their best day could touch this one group of women who came in on fridays for happy hour. They were all in their early to late 40's. And every 21 yr old guy in that joint would have cut off a toe to have a go at any one of them( me included).

The Devil

[Chicup]

Originally posted by yawanna
oh for heaven's sake bear_n_hunny!



I did not say I was a 'size queen'. I said 3" won't do it for me. And there are 3" men at these events. At house parties often there is a hot tub and some men walk around in their 'all together' which is fine by me! No touching required unless it's play time

Off topic:

How do you tell size when its not erect? Just curious, I'm an average 6"er but soft it can be anywhere from 4.5 to 1.5 depending on who knows what.

[yawanna]

Can't answer that one chicup.....never grabbed err carressed any, or viewed any that were or stayed soft

[OhioCouple]

Originally posted by Chicup
Off topic:

How do you tell size when its not erect? Just curious, I'm an average 6"er but soft it can be anywhere from 4.5 to 1.5 depending on who knows what.

I have to agree here. I've seen some that don't look or feel like diddly squat and then turn into more than I can handle. Count Mr. O among those...

[bear_n_bunny]

Originally posted by yawanna
oh for heaven's sake bear_n_hunny!

here...have one of the pills the vet gave me for my lion eerrrr....kat....he gets himself all wound up and scared and aggressive....we call it kitty prozac

Here in Ontario we have swinger clubs, off premise only, and house parties, to meet people at. Both offer dancing and if there is a man I think I might be interested in, during a dance or intimate conversation, I will give a 'caress'....to check the package. We will also kiss and run our hands over each other, some people lap dance, some women take their shirts off, hell I've even seen someone's bra fly overhead. (that time it wasn't mine ) It's called 'flirting' and it's one opportunity to excite as well as check

The men do not take such liberties unless expressly invited to, and perhaps it's my openness, maybe my soft hands, maybe the way I kiss I don't know but I have never had a man shriek or get offended. Never.

I did not say I was a 'size queen'. I said 3" won't do it for me. And there are 3" men at these events. At house parties often there is a hot tub and some men walk around in their 'all together' which is fine by me! No touching required unless it's play time

so chill baby

Well, believe it or not, even down here in backwards, reactionary Texas, we have off-premise swing clubs, as well as on-premise clubs and "house parties", and people are even known to do the sort of "flirting" you describe, including feeling each other up to one degree or another. BFD. Your own statements make it clear you are indeed a "size queen", whether you want to admit it or not, and as for the reasons why...

In any case, if you didn't "get it" before, you never will, and I will waste no more time with you.

As for Devil, you are full of it, Ace. Beauty IS fleeting. Sooner or later, time and gravity will catch up with everybody. Deal with it.

Oh sure, if you have the money, the process can be delayed. Here's an example; a few years back I visited Hippie Hollow, a park on Lake Travis (north of Austin) where nude swimming and sunbathing takes place. While there this couple shows up, the guy is a short balding, fiftysomething dude, nothing to write home about. His wife was another matter. While it was clear she was in her forties, she had the best "Body by Fisher" money could buy (which was no doubt the reason she was with this rather ordinary looking dude; enough money in one's bank account will make certain ladies suddenly realize that a guy with a small tool is actually just what she wants and needs... ).

Man, what a bod. All over tan, legs up to here, an ass to die for, neatly trimmed pubes on a pretty little pussy, skin so tight that if you had popped her with your finger, she'd have thumped like a snare drum, and the nicest set of 40-D cup anti-gravity tits I've ever seen. If a good-looking woman comes around, I'm going to look, especially if she's showing it off in some way, although I'm usually pretty circumspect about it. In her case, though, my mouth fell open and I frankly stared in amazement. Of course, she got huffy about it, poor baby...

But the fact is, even this gal will lose it eventually, and not even the plastic surgeon's art will be able to prevent it. Not only that, but most of Devil's sweet young things are not going to end up married to some rich sugar daddy who will be willing to drop a hundred grand on having her nipped and tucked from head to toe as, again, time and gravity take their inevitable toll, so they will experience this even sooner.

So as I said before, boys and girls, enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't last forever...

-- Bear

[yawanna]

In any case, if you didn't "get it" before, you never will, and I will waste no more time with you.

I choose to use smilie icons like and in an effort to show I'm smiling, not angry, not annoyed. If I wanted to argue with someone I'd call the phone co. to complain about my bill, anything but post on here.

What happened to 'friendly banter'

[DevilzAdvokit]

Bear,

Beauty isnt fleeting. It is relative to ones age. I dont expect a women who is 50 to resemble a 21 yr old. I always take age into consideration when analyzing an individuals beauty. I never hold the inevitable effects of aging against anyone.But people in our sedentary society often blame certain physical deteriorations on age when it should be more aptly attributed to their apathy.
My mother in law looked damn near as good in a bikini as her daughters did until she was 50 and hadnt has so much as a chemical peel. She had lines and maybe her breasts werent as firm as a highschool cheerleader but she looked great. She also worked to keep her body in shape. Wrinkles,receding hairlines,
some effects of gravity cannot be helped. Fat and flabby asses,stomachs,calves,thighs, and arms can most definately be.
And contrary to the rhetoric of those who arent willing to exercise,
it can be achieved without plastic surgery. Take a real good look at someone that you would consider to be a victim of time and really analyze them. Most of the things that cause this appearance are correctable.


TOP THREE THINGS THAT MAKE YOU LOOK OLDER THAN YOU SHOULD

1) Fitness. People often mistake being out of shape as a sign of aging. I cant tell you how many times at the gym I have seen someone come in looking 45 and a year later look 35 due to fitness alone. And I've seen men in their 60's who look like they could easily put you in the hospital with a punch. This is fact. Just because you are too lazy to keep your body in shape doesnt mean that its an impossible feat that defies the laws of physics.

2) Innappropriate body hair growth. As men age they often let the hair in their ears,nose,chest, and eyebrows get out of control.
You would be suprised at how many years it takes off an individual when these areas are kept up. Women should never overpluck or draw part of your eyebrows on. This is humorous looking at best.

3) Fashion. As people age they often fall into looking dated. It was only cool to wear fashions that were popular in the 80's
in the 80's. I'm not saying its cool to see 70yr olds dressed like Brittany Spears but you can at least wear something tasteful from the last decade. The same goes for your hair. Anyone still sporting a mullet should be killed on site.

The Devil

[saranmark]

AMEN, Yawanna!!!!!!

[DevilzAdvokit]

Who says this isnt friendly banter for some? Some people dont even yell during a divorce and some raise hell just asking for someone to pass the gravy at the dinner table. Bear and I give hell to one another at times but that doesnt mean we are being unfriendly.We know where we truly stand with one another. I just think that neither one of us are afraid to truly speak our minds.There are enough people here who post socially safe,politically correct, nonoffending,dull and unoriginal feel good fluff ridden posts that would even make Barney vomit. I personally love it when Bear accuses me of having my head up my ass or calls me Ace or Sonny. It meant that what I had to say was worth a passionate and personalized response.

The Devil

[yawanna]

Who says this isnt friendly banter for some?

I was speaking for myself to Bear

[bear_n_bunny]

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I was speaking for myself to Bear

Now, I'm going to have to tell y'all a secret about Bear. He is the sweetest, most cuddly and loyal person in the whole world. All this friendly banter does him a world of good. There are few things he loves better than a good debate. I've just learned to avoid topics that will set him off if I don't have a spare three or four hours to banter with him. At least he doesn't call me Ace or Sonny.

-- Bunny

[OhioCouple]

Originally posted by bear_n_bunny
I've just learned to avoid topics that will set him off if I don't have a spare three or four hours to banter with him. At least he doesn't call me Ace or Sonny.

I understand, more than you will ever know, I live that daily!!!!

[yawanna]

At least he doesn't call me Ace or Sonny.