HOT BODS / YOUNG /NO DISEASES ? Is it a dream?

[P and R]

We just got back from Hedo III and were very impressed. We must say that the reason for the impressive trip was because of the fact that Bliss Club Miami had an event there. We are from the Palm Beach County area were happy to see that the club was holding a take over during the same week that we went. Hot people walking around everywhere!
We are a young couple (she 28 and he 36) who are very attractive, clean, good natured, and friendly. We like to work out and exercise in various ways and keep very sexy bods.
As we "crawl" into the lifestyle inch by inch, we seem to find a lot of people who have no respect for their bodies, minds, or souls.
We continuously turn up disappointed by people that we are meeting.
Don't get me wrong, you could be Barbi and Ken and not have any personality and no social skills...
Neither of us are shallow people, we just simply want to meet some REAL and EXCITING younger people who are open minded like we are!

IS IT POSSIBLE TO MEET SUCH COUPLES OR SINGLE FEMALES?
OR IS IT ALL A PIPE DREAM?

If it is possible and you are in the Palm Beach or Broward area... and you know what we are talking about, send as a wink!

[lovinher]

Forget it. It's not possible and it's a dream. We are all fake, fat, boring and have no respect for our minds and souls.

[nice_cpl_n_bama]

Sorry folks. Most people in the lifestyle are middle aged and very average. I've noticed that I tend to avoid the "young, hot, and fit" types anyway. vanity isn't attractive. A flirty, fun attitude is way more important than body shape or age.

[WesternSwing]

It's not a dream, it's possible, but if you believe all the hype from the internet and "swingers videos" you're going to be sadly disappointed. Swingers are not all pornstars... in fact very few of us are! We're normal people of all ages, colors, sizes, and belief systems.

You are right about swingers, they tend to pay more attention to their minds, body, and soul, but that is because we like to look as good as we can for who we are; the education level seems to be a bit higher among swingers then the general societal surveys show for the general public, and we are maybe a little more introspective and open-minded them some. Overall I've met more people I get along with in the lifestyle then outside. I love folks!

Okay, back on subject. LOL You will find 10's in the lifestyle, but keep your options open and your strike-zone wide, you'll also come across allot of folks that maybe at first you thought were alright, but after you get to know them you just HAVE to have sex with them.

Welcome to the Board and have a great time with your journey.

Mr. WS

[Amanda69]

Reality is much more fun than the fantasy any day.

[atlas]

From a newbie here, we recently joined Swing Lifestyle to help get a feel for things. Initially, we're disappointed. First off, we're hypocrites for not having a picture, but of the pictures we've seen, we'd say they're on the very low side of the attractiveness scale. We hate saying it because it makes us feel conceited, but we have to be honest(although we don't think we'd ever give that as a reason to a couple). We've noticed there's a high percentage of overweight men and pictures tend to have males missing. We're getting turned off from the personals, but at least, it's better than hurting people in person. Is this it a case of a true sampling of the population(all types of people) or do the personals attract certain types? OT: Mr: The post is typed by the me, but it's an agreed perspective. I had to change the the I's to We's, but it's kinda annoying and feel insincere. What's the forum etiquette for posting from one account(I vs We)?

[EvilMJ]

Originally Posted by P and R

:As we "crawl" into the lifestyle inch by inch, we seem to find a lot of people who have no respect for their bodies, minds, or souls.

I'm sorry but comments like this just get me worked up. Making assumptions that people who are not as fit as you are, or in shape or ‘Hot Bodies’ have no respect for their bodies, minds or soul is the most closed minded opinionated comment I have ever heard. Guess what I don't have a perfect body, I can exercise every day, eat next to nothing and pray to all the skinny gods I can think of but I will never be a thin bikini wearing woman. Genetically it just isn't in the cards. I have big hips...oh wait, so does my mother...hmm so does her mother (do you see a trend here), throw in having one child there for good measure. I have a hard time losing weight, always have. I actually eat very healthy and try to work out as much as possible. But it doesn’t make me some slag who doesn’t give a shit about what I do to myself.

I think you are going to have a harder time than you think finding people to hook up with if this is the way you judge them.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to play with people who are not overweight, the same age, etc. We all have our own preferences and I can completely respect that. It is when you start making judgements on people you don’t know that makes you seem very shallow. I’m still not sure what you consider a REAL person?

I would have to say, just from my own experience, the swingers that we tend to hook up with are our age (I’m 34), have had one or more children so have mommy tummies and stretch marks to prove it. Very few of them have perfect bodies, but aren’t obese either. But they are as fun and as sexy as any woman out there.

Sometimes you have to, as Western Swing suggested, broaden your search parameters. I find that meeting someone in person is 100% better than an on line add, some people don’t photograph well (like me), and sometimes a personality can make all the difference.

[2jersey]

Originally Posted by P and R

As we "crawl" into the lifestyle inch by inch, we seem to find a lot of people who have no respect for their bodies, minds, or souls.

We have run into alot of unfit people in the lifestyle - certainly more than we encounter in our everyday (vanilla) lives. There is probably a socioeconomic explaination for this disparity (not worth discussing here).

Rare genetic disabilities aside, most obese people have made a conscious lifestyle decision which has impaired their health (by objective/scientific standards) and looks (by subjective/majority standards). It is probably fair to say that these particular (obese) people are not respecting their bodies.

Aside from this single illustration, it is hard to relate to your generalizations.

[richdon03]

Seek out what you want in this lifestyle and don't judge others. Everyone begins this lifestyle for their own reasons. We were recently contacted by a woman who describes herself as an XBBW. We havent met her, but really enjoy the e-mail interaction. She said that she had always hidden because of her large size. Recently, however, she has begun to experience a personal awakening. She has begun to appreciate her body as it is. One of the reasons that she can do so is because she has found that among swingers there are quite a few people who find her as beautiful as she feels she really is. For her this lifestyle has been one of the most liberating experiences of her life. One of the things that imresses me the most is that average people-- my neighbors, the plumber, what have you-- are comfortable enough in their own skin to share their skin with anyone they want. I'm sure many (us included) never planned on letting anyone other than our spouses see our imperfect bodies, so, when we got involved in this we entered as we were.

It's foolish to judge other people. Just let them live their lives. If you don't like the crowds at the places you frequent, look for those exclusive clubs that only cater to "beautiful people." Just don't get you feelings hurt if they judge you not quite beautiful enough like you're judging other people.

[SoCal-JnL]

Over the years I have had several occasions to be intimate with absolutely stunningly beautiful models and one actress. Now of course those ladies were incredibly sexy to look at and play with.

But....

[Extreme generalization on]

Just like the theory of the guy who is hung like a horse letting that define his sexuality, so that just the mere possession of such a slab of man meat is all that is needed to drive any female so fortunate to be lying under him at the time to the throes of ecstasy....so may exist a parallel with some stunningly beautiful women.
Drop dead gorgeous women ( as defined by Hollywood and the media) generally don't have to work at getting men because men are falling at their feet. Barbie has no incentive to knock Ken’s socks off, because there are a whole slew of other empty headed playthings to take Ken’s place.

[Extreme generalization off]

My ex wife was one such diva, at the time the most beautiful woman I had ever seen, and by far the most experienced sexual creature I had ever met (number wise), but as far as skilled? Nothing to write home about.


Of the best lovers I have ever been with, one was a BBW and the other a tiny little demure 2nd grade school teacher.
Both of them I suppose would not get a second glance in a room full of hard bodies, but those two ladies I will remember forever. So were they hot young hard bodied babes? No. Were they among those most magnificent lovers on the planet? You bet. And years later they still get my vote.

[CYA on]

Now my fiancé does not fit into this category for she is both stunningly beautiful and skilled

[CYA off]

Apologies in advance if I have offended anyone, these are my thoughts.

[Rockme]

Originally Posted by SoCal-JnL

Over the years I have had several occasions to be intimate with absolutely stunningly beautiful models and one actress. Now of course those ladies were incredibly sexy to look at and play with.

But....

[Extreme generalization on]

Just like the theory of the guy who is hung like a horse letting that define his sexuality, so that just the mere possession of such a slab of man meat is all that is needed to drive any female so fortunate to be lying under him at the time to the throes of ecstasy....so may exist a parallel with some stunningly beautiful women.
Drop dead gorgeous women ( as defined by Hollywood and the media) generally don't have to work at getting men because men are falling at their feet. Barbie has no incentive to knock Ken’s socks off, because there are a whole slew of other empty headed playthings to take Ken’s place.

[Extreme generalization off]

My ex wife was one such diva, at the time the most beautiful woman I had ever seen, and by far the most experienced sexual creature I had ever met (number wise), but as far as skilled? Nothing to write home about.


Of the best lovers I have ever been with, one was a BBW and the other a tiny little demure 2nd grade school teacher.
Both of them I suppose would not get a second glance in a room full of hard bodies, but those two ladies I will remember forever. So were they hot young hard bodied babes? No. Were they among those most magnificent lovers on the planet? You bet. And years later they still get my vote.

[CYA on]

Now my fiancé does not fit into this category for she is both stunningly beautiful and skilled

[CYA off]

Apologies in advance if I have offended anyone, these are my thoughts.

Well said!! I have to agree with most everything you said.

My wife and I are not crush you with blubber fat, but we are also not Ken and Barbie skinny. Most of those we play with are the same. We have played with a few people who fall into both of those categories. You are right when you talk about the Ken and Barbie’s of the world having more to choose from and maybe not working as hard. We got to play with a couple that had the “perfect” bodies. They were GREAT eye candy for both my wife and I. But they had a lack of skill that would knock you over. Their attitude was very much “we can play with whomever we want at any time.” We never wanted too, nor were we ever asked to play with them again.

I personally like a woman who has a little meat on the bones. One couple we played with the man was average size and shape. The woman was very “plus sized.” I will tell you it was one of the best nights I can remember in our swing life. That woman did things to me I had never even dreamed of having done. They are a great couple and we have played with them many times. They are very shy, to most, but once you get them out of their shell WOW!! Point being in all of this is simple. If we spent all our time looking for the perfect body we would miss some great times. Eye candy will only take you so far.

[ohash01]

OHAsh's 2 cents...

You should just try finding some swinging partners among your already hot bodied, young, disease-free friends, since I'm sure those are the only people you hang out with.

I understand that everyone has the one thing that turns them on. If sculpted, veiny, sweaty from the EFX machine bodies do it for you, so be it. However, in my experience exterior hotness means NOTHING. What about a breath-taking smile? Or gorgeous eyes? Or great breasts? Or great conversation skills? Or great flirting skills? Or great oral sex skills? The list goes on and on of good traits that you may or may not find in a "hot" person. Will you find people who fit your criteria? You bet. We've met people that fit your criteria...but perhaps your attitude turns THEM off too. We swung with a guy with crooked teeth who was nothing but skin and bones. And he was fabulous! It has so much more to do with attitude, than physical perfection.

I feel like the population as a whole is moving towards a trend of enjoying women with thicker waists, thicker booties, and thicker thighs. And that's wonderful! Like my mom used to say when I was struggling with my image in high school "Who wants to sleep with a freaking coat hanger anyway?"

[Sweet_Candy]

There are plenty of great looking women in the lifestyle the problem for us has been the men. I can't tell you how many times we've been contacted by a couple who doesnt have any pics of the guy on their profile and when they do send one of him we can see why they don't. Candy has said at times why bother if most of the men don't take care of themselves. Pimping your wife is as low as it can get with us.

[P and R]

Originally Posted by EvilMJ

I'm sorry but comments like this just get me worked up. Making assumptions that people who are not as fit as you are, or in shape or ‘Hot Bodies’ have no respect for their bodies, minds or soul is the most closed minded opinionated comment I have ever heard. Guess what I don't have a perfect body, I can exercise every day, eat next to nothing and pray to all the skinny gods I can think of but I will never be a thin bikini wearing woman. Genetically it just isn't in the cards. I have big hips...oh wait, so does my mother...hmm so does her mother (do you see a trend here), throw in having one child there for good measure. I have a hard time losing weight, always have. I actually eat very healthy and try to work out as much as possible. But it doesn’t make me some slag who doesn’t give a shit about what I do to myself.

I think you are going to have a harder time than you think finding people to hook up with if this is the way you judge them.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to play with people who are not overweight, the same age, etc. We all have our own preferences and I can completely respect that. It is when you start making judgements on people you don’t know that makes you seem very shallow. I’m still not sure what you consider a REAL person?

I would have to say, just from my own experience, the swingers that we tend to hook up with are our age (I’m 34), have had one or more children so have mommy tummies and stretch marks to prove it. Very few of them have perfect bodies, but aren’t obese either. But they are as fun and as sexy as any woman out there.

Sometimes you have to, as Western Swing suggested, broaden your search parameters. I find that meeting someone in person is 100% better than an on line add, some people don’t photograph well (like me), and sometimes a personality can make all the difference.

You should read my post again... I wrote about each topic that you commented on. I agree with you, did in my post, and still do.
My only comment was that "From our experiences thus far, WE have found that the swingers that we met have little respect for themselves".... WE not you or anyone else in your cicle of friends.
By the way, I would love to meet all of these "Awesome" and perfect swingers that you guys all know because WE cant seem to find them in Miami or Ft. Lauderdale.... very few for that matter.... some.... HEDO III had tons of cool people (some even had mommie tummies - and I would have hit it).

Sorry to offend. It was our thoughts.

[P and R]

Originally Posted by richdon03

Seek out what you want in this lifestyle and don't judge others. Everyone begins this lifestyle for their own reasons. We were recently contacted by a woman who describes herself as an XBBW. We havent met her, but really enjoy the e-mail interaction. She said that she had always hidden because of her large size. Recently, however, she has begun to experience a personal awakening. She has begun to appreciate her body as it is. One of the reasons that she can do so is because she has found that among swingers there are quite a few people who find her as beautiful as she feels she really is. For her this lifestyle has been one of the most liberating experiences of her life. One of the things that imresses me the most is that average people-- my neighbors, the plumber, what have you-- are comfortable enough in their own skin to share their skin with anyone they want. I'm sure many (us included) never planned on letting anyone other than our spouses see our imperfect bodies, so, when we got involved in this we entered as we were.




It's foolish to judge other people. Just let them live their lives. If you don't like the crowds at the places you frequent, look for those exclusive clubs that only cater to "beautiful people." Just don't get you feelings hurt if they judge you not quite beautiful enough like you're judging other people.

It is very interesting how upset so many people are over our post.
First of all, the word "Judge" has been tossed around like a low priced whore.
I didn't judge anyone. I challenge anyone here to tell me who we judged with our comments. It was a question or a comment about what WE have seen and experienced.
Beyond that I was exercising my ABILITY to ask and seek out questions on this website.... is that not what it is for? Or are we to be JUDGED each time we post a comment?
Very few comments were constructive...