BBW sex or not?

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by WesternSwing

In the Army she was the fittest she's ever been, and even then because she was a size 8 our government had her on the "fatty plan" throughout her career, and she looked awesome.

Now look what you've done, here I get dragged in to this discussion lol. I can relate to this. I was in the Army too, and because of my wide hips I wore about a size 8-9 pants...and that was with running around Fort Polk every day. Because of this I had to have "tape tests" done every month because according to the Army's scale I was overweight....and you literally could see my hip bones poke out when I stood up. Now I don't even know if I have hip bones lol. jk.

Originally Posted by WesternSwing

Both of us are in the lending industry and I'll tell you, all the account executives from lenders calling on our brokerage are skinny little hotties. The lenders use sex to sell to lonely, horny brokers who actually think they may get lucky someday with one of them.

I have a good friend who is physically "HWP"...gorgeous. Also, a beautiful person I must say. She told me that in Austin, Texas she was approached by a realty company that wanted to hire her.....all of the realtors are women, and blonde. You have to be blonde, and she would be required to dye her hair blonde. This is truly the truth, I know that for a fact. Sad, but true.

Originally Posted by WesternSwing

We went to Victoria's Secret to find her a strapless bra (she's a 38C) and the nice 105 lb clerk told her they don't have stuff for "bigger" women like her and she might want to try one of the stores for bigger women, like Lane Bryant, then she bopped off to help a Barbie and Ken that walked in. A 32DD for skinny women with big boob jobs is there, but nothing for real women with real breasts. Mrs. WS almost broke down in tears. She was humiliated.

And, I know this is true. My friend is NOT obese. She is chubby from having a baby just 4 months ago. She went to a mall in Austin, Tx (not to give Austin a bad name or nothin lol), and went to buy some panties at VS....the young girl looked at her and said "we don't sell them that big here, you have to go to the internet for that"...now, honestly it may have been different. But when she told me she said had her son not been with her she would have slapped the devil out of the girl across her face.

Originally Posted by WesternSwing

Thus, I always find it amusing when skinnier folk cry persecution. At least they have a better chance of getting employed and they never get moo'd at.

I am not talking about fit, attractive people with personality and open minds. I am talking about the superficial, self-absorbed, arrogant "it doesn't matter who I am, what matters is who I appear to be" type of people. ..

I agree completely. Most people who are fit and attractive are wonderful, beautiful people. As a matter of fact, I have talked to some I met on here, and they were happy to help talk to me about exercising and the like. Again, the few bad ones ruin it for everyone. I just got on the case of a particular Barbie not long ago. Physically beautiful. Knock down gorgeous. But her personality is just like you said. Nothing matters but her, and if she grants you the PRIVILEDGE of being around her you are pretty lucky. I'm not kidding, she really is like this. So, I let her know that I would rather be around a slightly less physically perfect person with a nice, warm personality than a woman who is such a narcissist that she is unable to see past herself.

JMO

Mr. WS[/QUOTE]

[EvilMJ]

Originally Posted by Dooode

I can't believe the tangents this thread went into!!

Cripes. Throughout my adulthood I have been skinny, fat, fit and just plain ol' straight-down-the-middle Dooode.

I don't knock heavyset people because I know what some of them have to go through to attain an acceptable weight level for their frame size. Try quitting smoking cold-turkey and see if you don't blimp out. Ugh. I know how difficult it is to lose weight. Been there, done that. t-shirt

I don't knock fit people because I know the hard work they go through to attain their fitness level. I used to run (easily) 10 miles a day, weights daily, and was even a member of an amature rugby team. Been there, done that again. t-shirt

The only thing that irks me about one level or the other is how one or the other exclaim some air of superiorty over the other because they CAN'T walk in the other person's shoes.

Until one can do so, it's really difficult to assert their "rightness" and have the other listen to what they have to say.

Well put!

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by 2inVT

How many BBWs do you see on TV or in the movies being portrayed as attractive?

I have to agree. You never do, ever. Not even the children are anything other than rail thin. Well, except for Raven Symone, and this is why I like her. She refuses to go stick thin. My concern with this is my daughter, and how she sees herself. She is tall with an athletic type body, and is at the age where the thin girls are the popular, pretty girls. This concerns me when on tv a woman is pregnant, then has the baby and is absolutely rail thin again.

What else bothers me, and this is for the Barbies? How they allow men to treat them like property. These are lovely women with minds and opinions. But all they are there for is to show their pretty face and their nice body. Their opinion is for naught, and no one wants to hear their opinion. I think that is sad.

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by SuAndBud

Overweight people might wanna consider eating less and more healthily and engaging in a little light excercise rather than the current "fit-bashing" that is becoming an increasingly regular occurence.

Okay, I will keep my opinion on this post to myself. I won't go there, and I will just leave it at that.

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by SuAndBud

Thkmlkchoclik,

You said:

"The only problem I had with your post was that little statement you made. So when you see a overweight, fat, cuddly, obese person in the street you automatically think that they're that way because they don't take care of their bodies or don't care to take care of their bodies???"

Answer:

On the whole, we pay them no more nor less attention than anyone else. We certainly don't judge them but if we were to consider that question then we'd have to agree with you in that how can they be looking after their bodies? The evidence is plain to see that they aren't. Take a look in the shopping trolley of an obese person next time your out and figure for yourself. Not every fat person has a "gland" problem.

Ain't it strange that when piling on the pounds, most will blame anything and everything for their condition but as soon as they've woken up and started to take more care and shed those extra pounds, they invariably say words to the effect of "truth be known I was out of condition and I was just eating too much".

The first step to solving a problem is recognising it. You then establish the causes and seek to rectify them.

Diabetes affects three members of Bud's family and is a very, very, very bad condition to have (one young girl, at the age of 22, is probably having both legs amputated shortly and none of them are expected to live to average longevity). Guess what? They all agree that their chocolate and soda intake whilst growing up was way in excess of what would be considered safe or usual.

The "glands" argument is subjective and not fully proven either way.

How many obese people left from Belsen or Auschwiz or Chiangi?

Ask us how it feels to be stood at the airline check-in and taking the credit card out and paying excess baggage charges of £360 (that's around 600USD) for greedily bringing along one stupid spare suitcase, when Bud weighs 150Lb and Su weighs 100Lb and the guy next to us weighing around 300Lb and his equally obese wife and poor sustenance abused kids all stroll through unhindered and credit cards intact?

Weight is weight. They should weigh you and your suitcase same time.

We're no more naturally light than they were naturally heavy (uh oh, sorry, maybe they all had the "gland" thing). We eat careful (still enjoy our food and don't feel we're losing out) and excercise. Do we get a rebate for being lighter baggage for the aircraft?

Being big doesn't afford you a monopoly on getting annoyed, by the way.

Close your eyes for 5 before bedtime. Open your mind and think it over.

Julie, you have to forgive me on this one, because not much gets under my skin. But this gets under my skin and really pisses me off. Okay, just who the hell do you think you are? Just where do you get off saying such inflammatory, rude and inconsiderate things about other human beings? I am not obese, but if I were I'd tell you where you could kiss my obese you know what. I don't know you Bud, and I'm sure you are a very nice person. But this is a load of crap. Number one, you think that you are inherently a more valuable person than a heavy person. Why, I ask. Listen here buddy! If I work and pay for my groceries who are you to tell me what I can and cannot buy? What business is it of yours, anyways? Im not saying anymore, I knew I should not have read these posts. This really, really ticks me off. I think you owe people an apology for this. Not for saying that obese people are less healthy than their thinner counterparts, but for really insinuating that you are somehow worth more as a human being than I am. Okay, I'm done with this.

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Now why would you look for some one who isn't correct anatomiclly? .

It is prejudiced attitudes like this that scare me. This is what leads girls my daughter's age to throw up their dinner rather than digest to avoid "getting fat". I hope you don't teach your daughter this mind set. Anatomically incorrect, give me a frickin break. I didn't know my appendix moved to my left side because of my fat. Wow, I didn't know that was possible.

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

They don't stop us though, cause slender people are fun cause there is less fat.[/B] .

No comment on this, because I try to only respond to posts that actually make sense.
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[2jersey]

Originally Posted by SuAndBud

Overweight people might wanna consider eating less and more healthily and engaging in a little light excercise rather than the current "fit-bashing" that is becoming an increasingly regular occurence.

Chicup got this thread off to a very constructive start when he described his experience:

We were overweight and out of shape. Instead of complaining about Ken and Barbie, we are working on becoming them.

To each his own, but when I was somewhat fat I knew it was my fault, and I didn't get upset if others found me unattractive because of it.

We are now looking pretty damn good and I'm hoping we can move from the B list to the A list (or at least A-) in a couple more months.

Shallow, you bet, but its about what WE find attractive and if our fat wasn't attractive to us, we couldn't expect in-shape couples to be attracted to us either.

This is a good example for others. Not sure why more people don't go this route - it offers so many benefits. I realize it is not easy. Neither is it easy to maintain when you are in your forties (I know) - but I work my butt off - daily exercise, proper nutrition, etc...

[2jersey]

Originally Posted by ShellyM

It is prejudiced attitudes like this that scare me. This is what leads girls my daughter's age to throw up their dinner rather than digest to avoid "getting fat". I hope you don't teach your daughter this mind set. Anatomically incorrect, give me a frickin break. I didn't know my appendix moved to my left side because of my fat. Wow, I didn't know that was possible.



No comment on this, because I try to only respond to posts that actually make sense.
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Sweetie, I think she was referring to Barbie and Ken. The dolls are anatomically incorrect - no genitalia. Just a joke.

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by 2jersey

Sweetie, I think she was referring to Barbie and Ken. The dolls are anatomically incorrect - no genitalia. Just a joke.

Sorry if I was mistaken, but this thread has me all ticked off. I'm not saying any more about this, you are all on your own on this stuff lol.

[ShellyM]

Originally Posted by 2jersey

This is a good example for others. Not sure why more people don't go this route - it offers so many benefits. I realize it is not easy. Neither is it easy to maintain when you are in your forties (I know) - but I work my butt off - daily exercise, proper nutrition, etc...

OK, I see your point. But see my point. Why should I HAVE to follow that example? I am NOT broken simply because I have more weight than you do! Don't get me wrong girl, I think you are a beautiful woman...and I'm working on losing weight as well so I know you work hard. But thats not my point. My point is this: People who are not HWP by society's standards are NOT DEFECTIVE. They should NOT have to feel like they are sub-standard people. This is all I'm saying. Like I give you respect I only ask that you extend to me the same courtesy. Thats all I am saying.

[telly2]

Hi everyone this is a nightmare of a thread, Why are we all acusing and bashing eachother, this is so Higschool sounding the jocks and chearleaders verses evryone else. this is nuts. We all have our preferences and that is the way it is. I think this thread should be Sex with a Bitch or not. If you look like christie brinkley, but have the personality of a garden troll, then get off my comp. If you are huge with the same personality get off my comp. Lets end this and just accept we all have differences and preferences. Surrender


I do have to respond to some of the comments that have been made, this is a pure thread of insults.
Some say we fat people have to stop eating so much and exercise more then explain this one if you are all knowing" I eat less junk food for that matter food in general the my hubby, and exercise more, Yet i am 249 lbs and he is 150? when you can answer that then maybe you can sell your book. Untill then keep your answers to life to yourself and shut up. and good for you getting stiffed at the airport, they had to make space for your ego as well.You know who you are.

[bear_and_babe]

So far I have kept my big mouth shut on this thread, until now. But I agree with ShellyM on this.

I am a larger woman, I know I have posted that before. But SuAndBud I would like to inform you about some of us "fat" people. I happen to have a "medical condition" that one of the side effects is being overweight. I have been fighting this condition for more then 25 years. I have PCOS. Even my new family Dr. did not know what this was. And like I told him, I will bet you that you eat more for breakfast then I eat all day. I have no appitite to speak of, if I could eat a salad every day for the rest of my life I would be happy. But due to low blood sugar, I can't do that. Bear gets worried about me because he thinks I don't eat enough. I do exercise, but due to my condition I don't loose weight. I would never wish this condition on anyone. I not only have to deal with everyone thinking I eat way too much, I also have to deal with a host of other side effects of this condition. I am telling you all this in the hopes that you might learn that not every fat person is that way because of what they eat or because they don't exercise. Not every fat person lives on McDonalds and candy. Not every fat person is fat by their own hand. Some of us were handed a raw deal with our genes. But I will agree that a lot of overweight people do it to themselves. Just not everyone.

As for swinging, I understand that not everyone will find me attractive, and that is ok. I don't find everyone I meet attractive either. To each his own.

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by ShellyM

It is prejudiced attitudes like this that scare me. This is what leads girls my daughter's age to throw up their dinner rather than digest to avoid "getting fat". I hope you don't teach your daughter this mind set. Anatomically incorrect, give me a frickin break. I didn't know my appendix moved to my left side because of my fat. Wow, I didn't know that was possible.

My point exactly.

If you read the opening post that started this thread, you'll see that I quoted that post and replaced just a few words to give people a different way to view how posts like that come across. Written either way, I find them offensive.

Originally Posted by ShellyM

No comment on this, because I try to only respond to posts that actually make sense.

I don't think the opening post of this thread made sense either.

LM

[2jersey]

Originally Posted by ShellyM

OK, I see your point. But see my point. Why should I HAVE to follow that example? I am NOT broken simply because I have more weight than you do! Don't get me wrong girl, I think you are a beautiful woman...and I'm working on losing weight as well so I know you work hard. But thats not my point. My point is this: People who are not HWP by society's standards are NOT DEFECTIVE. They should NOT have to feel like they are sub-standard people. This is all I'm saying. Like I give you respect I only ask that you extend to me the same courtesy. Thats all I am saying.

I'll repeat what I said earlier in this thread. Looks in general, and body type in particular, are irrelevant to me in vanilla interpersonal dealings. I don't judge people by their body type, unless we are getting naked and climbing between the sheets.

When I'm having lunch with a friend, I don't care if she is HWP. When I'm living a sexual fantasy, I like my partner to be relatively lean. This is how I was wired at the factory (apparently) - or maybe I have been conditioned to be this way by Hollywood and Vogue.

Thanks for the compliment Shelly. If you choose to lose a few pounds, great. If you are happpy with your body, great. I'm not here to judge you personally - and I'm certainly not deliberately offending you.

[ShellyM]

Okay, now that I am calm I do want to apologize to everyone. If I offended you I truly did not mean to in any way. I like everyone I have met on this board, and you are all completely entitled to your opinion. You know my opinion on this, so I will leave that alone. But if I was offensive I offer you most sincerest of apologies.