BBW sex or not?

[SuAndBud]

Thkmlkchoclik,

You said:

"The only problem I had with your post was that little statement you made. So when you see a overweight, fat, cuddly, obese person in the street you automatically think that they're that way because they don't take care of their bodies or don't care to take care of their bodies???"

Answer:

On the whole, we pay them no more nor less attention than anyone else. We certainly don't judge them but if we were to consider that question then we'd have to agree with you in that how can they be looking after their bodies? The evidence is plain to see that they aren't. Take a look in the shopping trolley of an obese person next time your out and figure for yourself. Not every fat person has a "gland" problem.

Ain't it strange that when piling on the pounds, most will blame anything and everything for their condition but as soon as they've woken up and started to take more care and shed those extra pounds, they invariably say words to the effect of "truth be known I was out of condition and I was just eating too much".

The first step to solving a problem is recognising it. You then establish the causes and seek to rectify them.

Diabetes affects three members of Bud's family and is a very, very, very bad condition to have (one young girl, at the age of 22, is probably having both legs amputated shortly and none of them are expected to live to average longevity). Guess what? They all agree that their chocolate and soda intake whilst growing up was way in excess of what would be considered safe or usual.

The "glands" argument is subjective and not fully proven either way.

How many obese people left from Belsen or Auschwiz or Chiangi?

Ask us how it feels to be stood at the airline check-in and taking the credit card out and paying excess baggage charges of £360 (that's around 600USD) for greedily bringing along one stupid spare suitcase, when Bud weighs 150Lb and Su weighs 100Lb and the guy next to us weighing around 300Lb and his equally obese wife and poor sustenance abused kids all stroll through unhindered and credit cards intact?

Weight is weight. They should weigh you and your suitcase same time.

We're no more naturally light than they were naturally heavy (uh oh, sorry, maybe they all had the "gland" thing). We eat careful (still enjoy our food and don't feel we're losing out) and excercise. Do we get a rebate for being lighter baggage for the aircraft?

Being big doesn't afford you a monopoly on getting annoyed, by the way.

Close your eyes for 5 before bedtime. Open your mind and think it over.

[2inVT]

So, essentially, BudandSue, you posted in this thread to share your lack of attraction to heavy people, and to continue that by telling overweight people to eat less, make different food choices than those you assume they make now, and to exercise more.

Thanks. I'm pretty sure none of us have ever heard any of THOSE comments before.

[fitcouple]

Holy crap this thread took off!

Here's my politically correct message:

We all like what we like, just because someone does like you, it doesn't give you the right to throw insults.

A few not so politically correct messages:

As I noted earlier, we are a very fit couple. I'm just over 6' and almost 280lbs, with a 34" waist. Basically a very musuclar, veiny, lean build. I know that the majority of the average population thinks I'm a circus side show. I can't walk into a room, bar, meeting with out at least one comment being said to me. I simply don't care, I'm me, my wife thinks I'm hot. I don't bash those that think I'm disgustingly to muscular. In essence, I understand the snickering behind your back and sometimes hurtful comments. But don't let those folks turn thier negativity onto you.

Society as a whole has a major weight epidemic. Especially in the US, were no one seems to be responisble for thier own actions. Having worked with many folks (as a hobby, not career) in changing thier bodies, I really believe that most of obesity issues are self inflicted, and not a "gland, or medical condition". It is really a choice for many, and society says it's OK. Its very disturbing as I know that by simply losing 5 pounds it make some one who has little self esteem, turn into a much more positive person.

Anyway my rant is over, I hope that everyone reading this post does come out of here with a more compassionate view of the "other side"

Fitcouple, OUT...

[SuAndBud]

2inVT, may we remind you of our first post?

We didn't post for your stated reasons at all. We were responding to the patronising and rude "fit people" bashing that was unashamedly going on.

Originally Posted by SuAndBud

Guess we're about to get shot down in flames.

We're not Ken and Barbie (Su's better looking than Barbie for a kick-off. Bud's less attractive facially than Ken).

Su's naturally petite. 5' and around 100lb. 32A/B breasts. Takes little conscious excercise but is very active and eats primarily vegetables and fish (for taste reasons, not because of any dietry fad).

Bud eats similar but also likes lean red meat and works out regularly at the gym. 5'10 and 150lb of muscle. Neither of us show our ribcage though and are not overly worried to have a layer of flesh on our bones.

Guess what? We have a GREAT time (between the sheets and otherwise). We can string a couple of words of more than one syllable together and can even smile, laugh and engage in serious or amusing conversations. If you met us you'd find Su in particular to be the life and soul of any party.

You don't have to be overweight to enjoy life to the full. The immortal words of Will Shakespear "methinks thou doth protest too much" springs to mind when reading some of the posts on this subject.

Apologies are extended if we don't fulfill the criteria as laid down by the majority of the respondents to this thread. Likewise if it's considered wrong and selfish of us to look after and cherish our bodies and health. No doubt we are to be damned eternally for actually being proud of our physical appearances.

And yes, we do generally (not always) find similar body types more physically attractive. A few extra pounds is fine, but we're just not attracted to fat (or skeletal, for that matter) body types. Our desires are our desires as are your own. We can no more change what we find attractive anymore than could a gay person.

A little more tolerance and understanding from the members would be cool (we are disappointed to have found such tolerance that we extend to those who are overweight appears not to be reciprocated).

But, if the cap fits:

Overweight people might wanna consider eating less and more healthily and engaging in a little light excercise rather than the current "fit-bashing" that is becoming an increasingly regular occurence.

Surely you've heard similar said befor.

[2inVT]

I swear, I'm gonna start going into the fitness and exercise threads and start telling people to sit down and eat a sandwich. - and that all these exercise junkie Type A personalities are headed for early heart attacks.

[2jersey]

Originally Posted by 2inVT

I swear, I'm gonna start going into the fitness and exercise threads and start telling people to sit down and eat a sandwich. - and that all these exercise junkie Type A personalities are headed for early heart attacks.

Most of the fitness fanatics do eat sandwiches, but only one at a time.

You are correct, being type A can increase one's exposure to coronary heart disease. Exercise, however, is very good for the heart.

[2inVT]

Apparently, my sarcasm escaped you.

[curiouscouple4f]

Originally Posted by graywolf71

cause big people are fun cause there is more to love.

Yup, my husband and I aren't huge, but we are definatly NOT Ken and Barbie, I'm much more muscle bound then that (Though not butch). I could pick Barbie up and use her as a javelin My husband is large, and could tie Ken in knots. We are fun and sexy and love sex, too bad some people are too picky...they miss out on a bunch!

the Mrs.

[SuAndBud]

You're not "picky"?

So you don't "pick" who who have sex with?

Coooool! Your place or ours?

Oh, nearly forgot - we do pick who we have sex with. Maybe you're not our type.

We might not be yours either, but then, you're not picky are you?

[curiouscouple4f]

Sorry, maybe that seemed wrong, definatly "picky" but base it more on the personality side, we don't care for people with the brain ablity of turnips. Humor, intelligence, cleanliness (the ablity to laught at my lack of spelling ability) and willingness to be creative and have fun, they are the most important....

The Mrs.

[LikeMinds321]

Title: SBW sex or not?


I just would like to know, who out there amoung you like SBW's or SHM's

Alot of people in my experence are looking for "Big Beautiful Woman & Big Handsome Men". Now why would you look for some one who isn't correct anatomiclly?

I was just wondering because we've had some bad experences with the BHM and BBW seekers. They don't stop us though, cause slender people are fun cause there is less fat.

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I have to wonder how this thread would have started out and developed had the OP written their post from a different P.O.V.

LM

[2jersey]

Originally Posted by curiouscouple4f

Sorry, maybe that seemed wrong, definatly "picky" but base it more on the personality side, we don't care for people with the brain ablity of turnips. Humor, intelligence, cleanliness (the ablity to laught at my lack of spelling ability) and willingness to be creative and have fun, they are the most important....

The Mrs.

I'm not flaming you, just using your comments to make a point.

Intelligence is probably the central component of personality. Why is it politically correct to be prejudiced against people with a low IQ, but not okay to be biased against a person with a heavy body weight?

IQ is only partially within one's control and has an enormous genetic link - correct? Do we need to reexamine our feelings towards those who are suffering from mental retardation?

[2jersey]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Title: SBW sex or not?


I just would like to know, who out there amoung you like SBW's or SHM's

Alot of people in my experence are looking for "Big Beautiful Woman & Big Handsome Men". Now why would you look for some one who isn't correct anatomiclly?

I was just wondering because we've had some bad experences with the BHM and BBW seekers. They don't stop us though, cause slender people are fun cause there is less fat.

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I have to wonder how this thread would have started out and developed had the OP written their post from a different P.O.V.

LM

To answer your implied question - it probably wouldn't have mattered. But the OP did set a controversial tone by suggesting that Ken and Barbie are the antithesis of BBW - as if all people with fit bodies are shallow and arrogant like Ken and Barbie.

[Dooode]

I can't believe the tangents this thread went into!!

Cripes. Throughout my adulthood I have been skinny, fat, fit and just plain ol' straight-down-the-middle Dooode.

I don't knock heavyset people because I know what some of them have to go through to attain an acceptable weight level for their frame size. Try quitting smoking cold-turkey and see if you don't blimp out. Ugh. I know how difficult it is to lose weight. Been there, done that. t-shirt

I don't knock fit people because I know the hard work they go through to attain their fitness level. I used to run (easily) 10 miles a day, weights daily, and was even a member of an amature rugby team. Been there, done that again. t-shirt

The only thing that irks me about one level or the other is how one or the other exclaim some air of superiorty over the other because they CAN'T walk in the other person's shoes.

Until one can do so, it's really difficult to assert their "rightness" and have the other listen to what they have to say.

[telly2]

Hi.MrTelly2 here.


Fat,thin,mid-sized.Does it all really matter?

Peel back the skin.Do we all have the same parts?

Insult us.Will our feelings not be hurt?

Love us.Will we not enjoy the feeling?

I have no problem with people having preferences.It's natural.My problem is with the people who don't have enough tact to realize that it is another persons feelings they are messing with.Maybe it's the newbie in me,but if cutting others up because of what they look like,or being cut up myself,is part of the game,maybe we should reconsider.

Or maybe I don't understand the intended concept of swinging.Is it all about getting what you want from someone else.or playing together for mutual enjoyment?

DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE?!!!!! head bang