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Old 08-10-2007, 12:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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This has a lot less to do with medical ED and everything to do with guys who can't do it in the more pressure area of swinging.

There is a reason why before viagra you always saw the same male porn stars. Its rather hard to get it up while people are watching and you are under pressure. A lot of guys can't even handle that with their own partner in a more open swinging atmosphere, so its even worse with someone new.

(Oh and a side note I read a piece a few years ago where male pornstars were bitching how they were losing work since now there were so many more guys who 'compete' using viagra for the job)

Anyways if you have a medical ED condition you should be under treatment for it. If its just you can't get it up while swinging then as others have said find something to help out, but you can't expect a woman to be happy or turned on when you can't seem to get it up for her.
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Mrs. Pill and I both wholeheartedly disagree with the seemingly widespread advice that a man should just take some drugs to get hard. ED almost always involves something else (anxiety, depression, bad self-esteem) or possibly something more life-threatening (high blood pressure, cancer, etc.) and the overperscription and overuse of perscription drugs in this country is out of hand and we certainly don't want to contribute to it. If you think you have ED, go to your doctor and get a good physical, ruling out anything else before accepting an ED script.
Your painting with a very wide brush here. Who said just pop a Viagra and all will be fine? I take several prescription drugs for some nasty physical ailments. Without them I literally could not function in life as a 47 year should. Even with them there are some very rough days. If you are healthy as a horse then good for you. Not everybody is as lucky as you are apparently. If, at some point your not, your opinion will change. You list several reasons why a man would take "drugs" to help with ED. What other reasons are there (besides recreational) and what difference does it make? That is not what is being discussed here is it? What exactly would you be contributing to anyway? And what do you suggest for guys that need it? Yoga? Meditation? Prayer? I tried bee stings and frog liver extract but that didn't work. :rollseyes
Maybe guys that do need it should just give up and forget about sex all together.
You struck a nerve with me because I HATE the fact that I need it at times and most guys do.
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Your painting with a very wide brush here. Who said just pop a Viagra and all will be fine? I take several prescription drugs for some nasty physical ailments. Without them I literally could not function in life as a 47 year should. Even with them there are some very rough days. If you are healthy as a horse then good for you. Not everybody is as lucky as you are apparently. If, at some point your not, your opinion will change. You list several reasons why a man would take "drugs" to help with ED. What other reasons are there (besides recreational) and what difference does it make? That is not what is being discussed here is it? What exactly would you be contributing to anyway? And what do you suggest for guys that need it? Yoga? Meditation? Prayer? I tried bee stings and frog liver extract but that didn't work. :rollseyes
Maybe guys that do need it should just give up and forget about sex all together.
You struck a nerve with me because I HATE the fact that I need it at times and most guys do.
Did I mention you by name? No, nor did I say anyone in this thread was advocating it recreationally (i.e w/o it actually being a condition). I pointed out that there is a widespread notion of "just take a pill and all will be well" - not just in the lifestyle, but contemporary America as a whole. All I said was make sure that you rule out any other contributing factors that could be a risk to your well-being. That's it. Chill out a bit.

It sucks that you have to take medication for it. I sympathize and I'm sorry to offend you. But I'm not trying to say you're a bad guy for using it.
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Why is it that men with ED are looked down upon as lesser men? It seems to me that it is either a mental or physical problem that cannot be helped and certainly not something a man chooses to have. Yet I see swinger ads with comments like "Only looking for men that can get it up and keep it up".

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OP, you have problems maintaining an erection because of nerves or because it is something you are taking meds for from your doctor? Maybe I missed that in there some where.

We wouldn't put something like that in our profile...but in the few experiences we've had, I have only been impressed by 1 person so far. He (like all the others) pretty much went soft when I put the condom on him...he was functioning perfectly fine until that point. What made the difference was his attitude about it. He flat out said, 'Sorry, I don't normally do well with condoms...' and then we proceeded on to activities other than intercourse and all was good. (For the record, we did have intercourse, it just didn't last very long.)

If your way of dealing with a flagging soldier is to give us what I have termed 'the hug' (for you Seinfield fans out there it's the male equililant to 'the tap' )....we keep trying to at least touch and get you to relax...and then you pull us into the 'granddad hug'...like a 'thanks sweetie...just stop.' And then you put your clothes back on and that's that. I agree with another poster, how things end make the difference. If you know your partner hasn't been taken care of, but you are in the midst of a pity party b/c things aren't working like you want them to...and you leave your partner hanging...that's not going to leave a good impression on me.

Then I've had others who were barely hard enough to penetrate, but they still orgasmed from it.

So while my SO sets the bar pretty high as far as what I look for in a playmate (someone who can literally fuck for hours on end if I so desire), I realize that not every man can do that....and do know that the swinging game can be very nerve wracking for the men in this sense. Even my SO has issues when first putting on a condom, but once things get moving he's fine.

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