How did you feel at The moment of truth.

BandC · 10-01-2003, 05:21 AM

Hi, this is my first post here.

This past weekend, after I had be perusing this site for a few days I decided to find out how my fiancee felt about the idea of swinging. I was a little apprehensive about bringing it up because I had kind of hinted at it before and she had given signals that she wasn't into it, but I felt like she was just too shy to admit that she had any thoughts of that kind and it turned out I was right. She admitted to me that the idea of having two guys at once really turned her on. It's very exciting to know that she is even considering the possiblility of trying it at some point. She also acknowledged that there is a flip side to me allowing her to have sex with another man which is me having sex with another woman. I think I will have to let her have the man first, which I'm willing to do if we ever get to the point of actually doing this.

It's such a strange place to be in right now. I love my fiancee more than anything in the world and I am seriously considering letting someone else have sex with her. I asked her if she could have sex with someone else and still love me and she said yes, and I believe her because she is a (naughty) angel and would never lie to me, and I know that no matter what kind of physical contact I may ever have with another woman that nobody else is my Angel and I'll love her forever. That's what I call her, my Angel.

I think it would be very arousing to see her have sex with someone else, but I keep wondering if I'm going to feel like I've lost something special if I let someone else touch her. She was a virgin when she met me, and I very nearly was ( I had one sorry little encounter before I met her that I wish had never happened, but that is a whole 'nother story). Did any of you guys out there feel like that the first time you saw your wife penetrated by another man? I know communication is key, and we have great communication so nothing is going to happen unless we are both comfortable with it, but you never really know what you are going to do at the moment of truth until it happens. I'd really like to hear how other guys felt at that moment. I'd like to hear what the girls have to say too actually.

Thanks for reading my long post,

B

Elusive BiFem · 10-01-2003, 09:25 AM

Hi BandC and Welcome to the Board.

First, I'm a female, but you last line said "girls" too! Right off the bat, I think that it is great that you are giving this some serious thought before just jumping right in. Whatever decision you end up with will be the best for the two of you if you approach the idea with reason and caution and "information."

I don't know enough about ya'll to give any real opinions, but I want to throw out a few things for you to consider.

Communication...you addressed that...but you also mentioned that ya'll are not married yet. Certainly, unmarried people can have just as good communication as those that have been married for many years, but on the surface, I tend to feel that couples that have been together for a long time have had the opportunity to "explore" themselves fully and to really "know" each other - all parts of the communication thing.

She admitted...be certain, 100% certain, this is something she is really interested in and she isn't just giving you lip service...thinking that the idea will go away. This kind of goes back to the communication thing. Sometimes we see that women agree to swinging when in reality they don't really have any desire to do so. That being said, there are many women that really enjoy it, and many were the initiators!

This statement concerned me a little...

"I think it would be very arousing to see her have sex with someone else, but I keep wondering if I'm going to feel like I've lost something special if I let someone else touch her."

...but I would imagine it is something many go through. Before going further, I would suggest you get your own feelings about this firmly established.

As a suggestion, ya'll may want to consider same room sex with another couple before actually involving a single male or actual swapping of partners. That might give you some good avenues of thought and open the communication doors even wider. Just kind of build up to it more gradually before going all out.

You will get all kinds of answers...and that is the good thing about this board...lots of different views. But certainly, don't hesitate to ask questions as they come to you...and we all wish you the best! - EBF

**Alura** · 10-01-2003, 10:09 AM

Welcome to the SwingersBoard, Band C! We're glad you joined us and wish you the best experiences in whatever y'all do.

We'd suggest y'all not get in a hurry. Learn a lot from the archives on this board, from questions asked of current members and, most of all, from each other.

Let things develop naturally and keep your communication with each other. It's your most important asset.

Alura

biblonde · 10-01-2003, 12:39 PM

Welcome

Hi i am the she half...Make sure you talk ALOT about any kinda swing before you jump into it. May i suggest a couple to start with. I also agree same room sex to start with to see how you feel about even haveing someone else with you guys. We have been together 21 years and i was to shy to admit that i wanted to try it but once we started talking about it i opened up and told him what i wanted. But we talked months before we ever did anything. We looked on sites (i wish i found this one earlier) We asked alot of questions of each other, And set strict ground rules to start. Once we started our search we talked with the couple for a couple months meeting them for dinner and makeing sure we were comfy with them.
Another good thing to do is go out and watch guys flirting with her and visa versa...does it make ya jelous??? Imagine what if they were with her...how does that make you feel?? In this lifestyle jelousy doesnt work.

And My husbands opinion of watching me with another man (and no at first he wasnt real sure that he would enjoy haveing another man with his wife) He Thought it was so sexy and said he got to see just how sexy i was while having sex. It was a major turn on for him to watch me. And i love watching him!! We know that the people we are with are just "playmates" and friends. Niether of us feel threatenend or jelous. We have a strict ground rule that we never push....If anyone involved is uncomfy with anything at anytime they can stop what is going on or stop all of it without any hard feelings. So if one of us decided we just dont like what we are doing or who we are with it stops and we go. We always let the other couple know this and they have the option as well. This is a game of fun and we dont want anyones feelings hurt or someone not comfy!
hope this helps a little
that is my 2 cents for today.....s

fun_pairTX · 10-01-2003, 01:15 PM

Talk a LOT, try and envision every possible scenario, then talk some more. When you both feel comfortable go ahead and get your feet wet. Just remember there are no guarantees once the drawers hit the floor. Reactions are not predictable. Mrs Fun and I have a rule that anyone can say stop at any time no questions asked. This really has assuaged any of our trepidations. We went from zero to full swap without any real problems.

BandC · 10-01-2003, 02:53 PM

Thanks all for the replies.

I should probably clarify something. We are engaged to be married but that doesn't mean we haven't been together long. We have been together for over three years and engaged for about one and a half years. The only reason we are not married is that we don't make much money and we want to have a nice wedding and not just go down to the courthouse and get hitched. I just wanted to mention this so that you didn't think we are a couple who barely know each other yet.

I don't think it would be possible to be emotionally closer to someone than I am with C. That's why I am pretty sure she isn't just telling me what she thinks I want to hear. The concept of letting her have sex with another person is not a new one, it's just that before the fantasy was exclusively me watching her with another woman which she is seriously into. I don't really have any reservations about her playing with a girl, which seems to be pretty common among us guys. I guess it's almost a double standard to be all rah-rah about her being with a girl and scared about her being with a guy, but it's probably because I don't see other girls as potential rivals for her love and of course there is the whole feeling of possessiveness (it's just a gut feeling, I know I don't own her). That's the thing though, those are just knee-jerk feelings. I know intellectually that she is probably capable of having sex with anyone else and will always come back to me.

Anyway, don't worry guys we are not going to rush out this weekend and try to get it on with someone. I know she and I will be doing much more talking about it before anything gets even close to happening. The talking about it is half the fun, it's exciting to talk about something new like this with her.

B

Elusive BiFem · 10-01-2003, 03:11 PM

Hi again, B and C...it seems that all of us add our 0.02¢ and the end result is more details coming out. Ain't that just life!

The really great thing I see here is that you are giving serious and realistic thought to this entire thing...and nothing can beat that. I saw that in your first post, and I guess I should have commented on it. Hang around, and keep asking questions...that's the best way in the world to figure out what will best suit the two of you.

Take care!! - EBF

biblonde · 10-01-2003, 03:19 PM

I am glad to hear you arent in a hurry. And yes talking about it is half the fun. I think you are going into this with your eyes open!! I know what worked for us was fantasizing in our minds to help get used to the idea of seeing our spouses with another. The real thing is different but this help. The first time is a little wierd but hopefully in a good way. We are taught to have only one partner for life so this lifestyle kinda goes against that and you get those strange little thoughts. we have found that playing has made us even closer than we were and has added a touch of excitement to our sex life..althought that was always a great thing!! We feel more open about talking about things we want to share, We look at woman and discuss them as well as men now. And that is a major turn on to both. We love watching others flirt with us and knowing that we will be going home together. We both know the other is our one and only and that we will never leave each other over this. So i wish you the best of luck and if you decide to swing enjoy! if you decide not to at least you know you can discuss your fantasies and be comfy. You dont have to live out every fantasy...

s

BandC · 10-01-2003, 04:28 PM

Thanks for all the kind words and advice EBF and biblonde. You guys are really nice.

Too bad you guys aren't close by, I'm sure C would like to get to know you.

Part of the thing that was so cool and makes me excited is that when she indicated she was receptive to the idea of swinging it gave me a glimpse of a wantonly sexual side of her that doesn't come out as often as I'd like. She's extremely sexy when she lets it all out. It would be interesting to see how she acts with other people because she really is quite shy with people she doesn't know. It would be nice to see her break out of her shell a little.

B

biblonde · 10-01-2003, 04:56 PM

LOL you sound like my hubby...He loves me getting attention. and he says it brings out the "real" me. And i have learned to let the real me come out more often. He enjoys it when i am felling sexy!!

You have taken the first step and it seems as though she is interested so contune to chatt with her about it and ya never know !!! I told my hubby no for 20 years about having someone play with us. He never pushed the issue though. He was totally shocked when i admitted that all along i would like to be with a woman and find out what it was like to be with another man...he was my first and only. And as for feelings afterwards with me and i think him to there was no doubt how we felt about each other. Niether of us felt any less tward each other it actually made us close and desire each other even more. I always worried that he would think less of me or desire me less but it was just the opposite. He says it turned him on to watch me. At first he was doubtfull he would enjoy seeing me with another man. but as it turned out he says that i looked so sexy having sex that he got even more aroused so??? ya never know. everyone is different. It is real important that you spend alot of time talking about your feelings and setting ground rules. cover all the basis in your ground rules from kissing to flirting and such. What you think you can handle or not handle. The rules can change as you are more comfy and make sure whoever you play with ( if you decide this is for you) knows all your ground rules and dont let them push you into anything that you dont want. You always have the right to say NO or leave. Your mate is more important than they are. If you keep that in mind you will enjoy.

s

BandC · 10-01-2003, 05:12 PM

Sounds like good advice biblonde and we will be sure to use it. I searched and found a thread about how much most of the guys seem to enjoy seing her with another guy and the more I read about it the less wierd I feel about it because I know that lots of other guys feel the same way. Like everyone else said, it would be very sexy just to see what her having sex looks like from the "outside" so to speak. I think it's just all about finding someone we can be comfortable with. I think if she really wants this then it it pretty inevitable that it will happen. We only get one try at life and I'd hate to not know what this is like. Man I'm such a perv! <EG>

biblonde · 10-01-2003, 05:25 PM

Naw you arent a perv!!!!! I think most of us in the world would love to live this lifestyle but are to afraid or not confident enough in themselves to try. And as the she part ....i love watching him and knowing he is getting her off...some strange part of me gets off on the idea that he is doing that and that she enjoys him. At first it is a little on the wierd side to watch you can get all sorts of feelings going on but hopefully they are good ones. Watching and knowing she is in love with you is the most important part. I also love watching the girls flirt with him and he enjoys me getting attention. It is all good. And never forget it is all a learning process...find out what makes you both happy and go from there...the options are endless!!!

s

BandC · 10-02-2003, 04:49 AM

Thanks for the encouragement. I can't wait 'til the weekend so I can talk to her about this some more. We never get to see each other during the week because of our work schedules. It sucks.

I really like this board. Almost everybody on it seems mature and friendly. I hope I can meet some people like that around here.

Konehead · 10-09-2003, 01:05 AM

I am by no means an expert, however we found same room sex with another couple to be a fantastic way to break the ice. We are fairly new at this and this is how we got introduced to The Lifestyle.

I think this is most arousing if you and your partner stay as close to the other couple as possible. This makes it so you will be able to look into each others eyes and look into the other couples eyes with a slight turn of the head. It creates a very intimate setting and it isnt too extream for new couples.

Anyway, there is my $.02 .

Good luck, and have fun.

OhioCouple · 10-09-2003, 05:06 AM

Off topic here for a moment...

Konehead,

I just love your signature lines.

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10-01-2003, 05:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
BandC Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Eugene, OR Status: Couple	How did you feel at The moment of truth. Hi, this is my first post here. This past weekend, after I had be perusing this site for a few days I decided to find out how my fiancee felt about the idea of swinging. I was a little apprehensive about bringing it up because I had kind of hinted at it before and she had given signals that she wasn't into it, but I felt like she was just too shy to admit that she had any thoughts of that kind and it turned out I was right. She admitted to me that the idea of having two guys at once really turned her on. It's very exciting to know that she is even considering the possiblility of trying it at some point. She also acknowledged that there is a flip side to me allowing her to have sex with another man which is me having sex with another woman. I think I will have to let her have the man first, which I'm willing to do if we ever get to the point of actually doing this. It's such a strange place to be in right now. I love my fiancee more than anything in the world and I am seriously considering letting someone else have sex with her. I asked her if she could have sex with someone else and still love me and she said yes, and I believe her because she is a (naughty) angel and would never lie to me, and I know that no matter what kind of physical contact I may ever have with another woman that nobody else is my Angel and I'll love her forever. That's what I call her, my Angel. I think it would be very arousing to see her have sex with someone else, but I keep wondering if I'm going to feel like I've lost something special if I let someone else touch her. She was a virgin when she met me, and I very nearly was ( I had one sorry little encounter before I met her that I wish had never happened, but that is a whole 'nother story). Did any of you guys out there feel like that the first time you saw your wife penetrated by another man? I know communication is key, and we have great communication so nothing is going to happen unless we are both comfortable with it, but you never really know what you are going to do at the moment of truth until it happens. I'd really like to hear how other guys felt at that moment. I'd like to hear what the girls have to say too actually. Thanks for reading my long post, B

10-01-2003, 01:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
fun_pairTX Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,185 Location: Ennis, Texas Status: Couple	No Guarantees Talk a LOT, try and envision every possible scenario, then talk some more. When you both feel comfortable go ahead and get your feet wet. Just remember there are no guarantees once the drawers hit the floor. Reactions are not predictable. Mrs Fun and I have a rule that anyone can say stop at any time no questions asked. This really has assuaged any of our trepidations. We went from zero to full swap without any real problems. __________________ fun_pairTX

10-09-2003, 05:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
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10-01-2003, 09:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Elusive BiFem Active Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,400 Location: Texas Status: Single Female	Hi BandC and Welcome to the Board. First, I'm a female, but you last line said "girls" too! Right off the bat, I think that it is great that you are giving this some serious thought before just jumping right in. Whatever decision you end up with will be the best for the two of you if you approach the idea with reason and caution and "information." I don't know enough about ya'll to give any real opinions, but I want to throw out a few things for you to consider. Communication...you addressed that...but you also mentioned that ya'll are not married yet. Certainly, unmarried people can have just as good communication as those that have been married for many years, but on the surface, I tend to feel that couples that have been together for a long time have had the opportunity to "explore" themselves fully and to really "know" each other - all parts of the communication thing. She admitted...be certain, 100% certain, this is something she is really interested in and she isn't just giving you lip service...thinking that the idea will go away. This kind of goes back to the communication thing. Sometimes we see that women agree to swinging when in reality they don't really have any desire to do so. That being said, there are many women that really enjoy it, and many were the initiators! This statement concerned me a little... "I think it would be very arousing to see her have sex with someone else, but I keep wondering if I'm going to feel like I've lost something special if I let someone else touch her." ...but I would imagine it is something many go through. Before going further, I would suggest you get your own feelings about this firmly established. As a suggestion, ya'll may want to consider same room sex with another couple before actually involving a single male or actual swapping of partners. That might give you some good avenues of thought and open the communication doors even wider. Just kind of build up to it more gradually before going all out. You will get all kinds of answers...and that is the good thing about this board...lots of different views. But certainly, don't hesitate to ask questions as they come to you...and we all wish you the best! - EBF

10-01-2003, 10:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
Alura T-Town Playmates Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,126 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Status: Married to Mrs. Alura	Welcome to the SwingersBoard, Band C! We're glad you joined us and wish you the best experiences in whatever y'all do. We'd suggest y'all not get in a hurry. Learn a lot from the archives on this board, from questions asked of current members and, most of all, from each other. Let things develop naturally and keep your communication with each other. It's your most important asset. Alura

10-01-2003, 12:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
biblonde Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,020 Location: sacramento Status: couple SLS Name:curious1918	Welcome Hi i am the she half...Make sure you talk ALOT about any kinda swing before you jump into it. May i suggest a couple to start with. I also agree same room sex to start with to see how you feel about even haveing someone else with you guys. We have been together 21 years and i was to shy to admit that i wanted to try it but once we started talking about it i opened up and told him what i wanted. But we talked months before we ever did anything. We looked on sites (i wish i found this one earlier) We asked alot of questions of each other, And set strict ground rules to start. Once we started our search we talked with the couple for a couple months meeting them for dinner and makeing sure we were comfy with them. Another good thing to do is go out and watch guys flirting with her and visa versa...does it make ya jelous??? Imagine what if they were with her...how does that make you feel?? In this lifestyle jelousy doesnt work. And My husbands opinion of watching me with another man (and no at first he wasnt real sure that he would enjoy haveing another man with his wife) He Thought it was so sexy and said he got to see just how sexy i was while having sex. It was a major turn on for him to watch me. And i love watching him!! We know that the people we are with are just "playmates" and friends. Niether of us feel threatenend or jelous. We have a strict ground rule that we never push....If anyone involved is uncomfy with anything at anytime they can stop what is going on or stop all of it without any hard feelings. So if one of us decided we just dont like what we are doing or who we are with it stops and we go. We always let the other couple know this and they have the option as well. This is a game of fun and we dont want anyones feelings hurt or someone not comfy! hope this helps a little that is my 2 cents for today.....s

10-01-2003, 02:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
BandC Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Eugene, OR Status: Couple	Thanks all for the replies. I should probably clarify something. We are engaged to be married but that doesn't mean we haven't been together long. We have been together for over three years and engaged for about one and a half years. The only reason we are not married is that we don't make much money and we want to have a nice wedding and not just go down to the courthouse and get hitched. I just wanted to mention this so that you didn't think we are a couple who barely know each other yet. I don't think it would be possible to be emotionally closer to someone than I am with C. That's why I am pretty sure she isn't just telling me what she thinks I want to hear. The concept of letting her have sex with another person is not a new one, it's just that before the fantasy was exclusively me watching her with another woman which she is seriously into. I don't really have any reservations about her playing with a girl, which seems to be pretty common among us guys. I guess it's almost a double standard to be all rah-rah about her being with a girl and scared about her being with a guy, but it's probably because I don't see other girls as potential rivals for her love and of course there is the whole feeling of possessiveness (it's just a gut feeling, I know I don't own her). That's the thing though, those are just knee-jerk feelings. I know intellectually that she is probably capable of having sex with anyone else and will always come back to me. Anyway, don't worry guys we are not going to rush out this weekend and try to get it on with someone. I know she and I will be doing much more talking about it before anything gets even close to happening. The talking about it is half the fun, it's exciting to talk about something new like this with her. B

10-01-2003, 03:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Elusive BiFem Active Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,400 Location: Texas Status: Single Female	Hi again, B and C...it seems that all of us add our 0.02¢ and the end result is more details coming out. Ain't that just life! The really great thing I see here is that you are giving serious and realistic thought to this entire thing...and nothing can beat that. I saw that in your first post, and I guess I should have commented on it. Hang around, and keep asking questions...that's the best way in the world to figure out what will best suit the two of you. Take care!! - EBF

10-01-2003, 03:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
biblonde Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,020 Location: sacramento Status: couple SLS Name:curious1918	I am glad to hear you arent in a hurry. And yes talking about it is half the fun. I think you are going into this with your eyes open!! I know what worked for us was fantasizing in our minds to help get used to the idea of seeing our spouses with another. The real thing is different but this help. The first time is a little wierd but hopefully in a good way. We are taught to have only one partner for life so this lifestyle kinda goes against that and you get those strange little thoughts. we have found that playing has made us even closer than we were and has added a touch of excitement to our sex life..althought that was always a great thing!! We feel more open about talking about things we want to share, We look at woman and discuss them as well as men now. And that is a major turn on to both. We love watching others flirt with us and knowing that we will be going home together. We both know the other is our one and only and that we will never leave each other over this. So i wish you the best of luck and if you decide to swing enjoy! if you decide not to at least you know you can discuss your fantasies and be comfy. You dont have to live out every fantasy... s

10-01-2003, 04:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
BandC Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Eugene, OR Status: Couple	Thanks for all the kind words and advice EBF and biblonde. You guys are really nice. Too bad you guys aren't close by, I'm sure C would like to get to know you. Part of the thing that was so cool and makes me excited is that when she indicated she was receptive to the idea of swinging it gave me a glimpse of a wantonly sexual side of her that doesn't come out as often as I'd like. She's extremely sexy when she lets it all out. It would be interesting to see how she acts with other people because she really is quite shy with people she doesn't know. It would be nice to see her break out of her shell a little. B

10-01-2003, 04:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
biblonde Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,020 Location: sacramento Status: couple SLS Name:curious1918	LOL you sound like my hubby...He loves me getting attention. and he says it brings out the "real" me. And i have learned to let the real me come out more often. He enjoys it when i am felling sexy!! You have taken the first step and it seems as though she is interested so contune to chatt with her about it and ya never know !!! I told my hubby no for 20 years about having someone play with us. He never pushed the issue though. He was totally shocked when i admitted that all along i would like to be with a woman and find out what it was like to be with another man...he was my first and only. And as for feelings afterwards with me and i think him to there was no doubt how we felt about each other. Niether of us felt any less tward each other it actually made us close and desire each other even more. I always worried that he would think less of me or desire me less but it was just the opposite. He says it turned him on to watch me. At first he was doubtfull he would enjoy seeing me with another man. but as it turned out he says that i looked so sexy having sex that he got even more aroused so??? ya never know. everyone is different. It is real important that you spend alot of time talking about your feelings and setting ground rules. cover all the basis in your ground rules from kissing to flirting and such. What you think you can handle or not handle. The rules can change as you are more comfy and make sure whoever you play with ( if you decide this is for you) knows all your ground rules and dont let them push you into anything that you dont want. You always have the right to say NO or leave. Your mate is more important than they are. If you keep that in mind you will enjoy. s

10-01-2003, 05:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
BandC Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Eugene, OR Status: Couple	Sounds like good advice biblonde and we will be sure to use it. I searched and found a thread about how much most of the guys seem to enjoy seing her with another guy and the more I read about it the less wierd I feel about it because I know that lots of other guys feel the same way. Like everyone else said, it would be very sexy just to see what her having sex looks like from the "outside" so to speak. I think it's just all about finding someone we can be comfortable with. I think if she really wants this then it it pretty inevitable that it will happen. We only get one try at life and I'd hate to not know what this is like. Man I'm such a perv! <EG>

10-01-2003, 05:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
biblonde Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,020 Location: sacramento Status: couple SLS Name:curious1918	Naw you arent a perv!!!!! I think most of us in the world would love to live this lifestyle but are to afraid or not confident enough in themselves to try. And as the she part ....i love watching him and knowing he is getting her off...some strange part of me gets off on the idea that he is doing that and that she enjoys him. At first it is a little on the wierd side to watch you can get all sorts of feelings going on but hopefully they are good ones. Watching and knowing she is in love with you is the most important part. I also love watching the girls flirt with him and he enjoys me getting attention. It is all good. And never forget it is all a learning process...find out what makes you both happy and go from there...the options are endless!!! s

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10-02-2003, 04:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
BandC Registered Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Eugene, OR Status: Couple	Thanks for the encouragement. I can't wait 'til the weekend so I can talk to her about this some more. We never get to see each other during the week because of our work schedules. It sucks. I really like this board. Almost everybody on it seems mature and friendly. I hope I can meet some people like that around here.

10-09-2003, 01:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
Konehead Registered Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3 Location: Tampa , Florida area Status: Discreet Couple	I am by no means an expert, however we found same room sex with another couple to be a fantastic way to break the ice. We are fairly new at this and this is how we got introduced to The Lifestyle. I think this is most arousing if you and your partner stay as close to the other couple as possible. This makes it so you will be able to look into each others eyes and look into the other couples eyes with a slight turn of the head. It creates a very intimate setting and it isnt too extream for new couples. Anyway, there is my $.02 . Good luck, and have fun.