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  1. Big Rock, Welcome. IMO, you've come to the right place for advice. While not a swinger at this time I can say the biggest thing I've learned from this forum is communication is everything. Yes you were wronged. She fucked up. She failed to trust you and communicate with you. Was she afraid you'd not understand? It's quite possible, but she should have talked with you even if it was just one last fling. Ultimately the ball's in your court. if you're not communicating with her the relationship is over. If you wish to communicate with her you both have to understand that things might come out that are challenging to hear. But you need to communicate... with honesty if the relationship is going to work. Best wishes, and I hope you find advice you can use here.
  2. Much thanks to everyone who has invested time in this discussion. I personally have learned a lot from this discussion. Chicup, Bi4Me2, and Lacivious all bring up some excellent points in this discussion. Chicup is clearly a dedicated professional who has gone above and beyond in discussion this issue from the perspective of his medical and biological training. Mrs. Bi4Me2 has clearly had some personal experiences that have influenced that couples opinions of the validity of "squirting" and medical professionals in general. I'm happy to hear about your positive experience and sad to hear about the negative experiences. This discussion is colored by personal experience, a dearth of quality academic research, and the pornofication of female ejaculation. In trying to find more answers I dug a little deeper and found the following: Female ejaculation - wikidoc Skene's gland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Female ejaculation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Based on the information in these links I make the following hypothesis... Female Ejaculation describes an expulsion of fluid from the urethra in volumes less than 35 ml (about 8 teaspoons). The fluid is significantly different from urine to clearly not be urine, however in the course of a very strong orgasm it may be mixed with urine that is expelled simultaneously to female ejaculation. There is some indication that the Skene's Gland can refill rapidly (in minutes not seconds) so one my be able to experience multiple instances of female ejaculation during a sufficiently long sex session. Squirting describes the pornofication of Female Ejaculation. By pornofiication I mean taking the phenomena of female ejaculation and making it more grandiose for benefit of the camera. Squirting describes an expulsion of fluid from the urethra but in volumes greater than 35 ml. The fluid is mostly urine but will likely include female ejaculation fluid. Since most of this fluid comes from the bladder is it most likely to experience only one large expulsion of fluid. I think this covers it. There is some controversy surrounding this and related topics. it's very important to make sure we don't spread false information or give the impression that you're dysfunctional if you can't have a female ejaculation. However, it's just as important to not dismiss the experiences of those who say something real is going on or to shame or embarrass them for an orgasm that is a little messier regardless of the exact origin. it's important to remember that inconclusive studies are not proof of the lack of existence. Furthermore, it's important to remember that anecdotal evidence while not scientific cannot be dismissed wholesale. I'll point to the extreme case of Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder Persistent Genital Arousal Disorder - Wikipedia. From a documentary on the Discovery Health Channel women reported being met by physicians with skepticism, dismissal (it's all in your head), or outright disrespect (your husband/boyfriend must be VERY *wink* lucky). In closing, Female Ejaculation is different and distinct from Squirting. Female Ejaculate is different and distinct from urine. The pornofication of this phenomena has caused considerable confusion. Not all women appear to have same development of the Skene's gland, from microscopic to very developed. Finally, the fact that we are talking about a gland/spot that is in the vagina and is reported to only be engorged/sensitive when the woman is highly aroused, making clinical inquiry quite challenging. I've rambled on long enough. Have a good one.
  3. I'm sorry, but I don't quite follow you. Female Ejaculation is also known as "Squirting" so I'm not quite certain what you're trying to say here. As I tried to indicate above, there are likely cases where incontinence explains some FE, but it's clear this does not explain all cases of FE. Not to get too confrontational here, but when talking about scientific/medical research we have to rely on science as a process to help us understand a phenomena. Lay-man articles are informative. "Expert opinion" should be valued. However, both fall far behind the weight and influence of scientific investigations. Linus Pauling was a Nobel Laureate, but he was also wrong about vitamin C. I will admit that my linked sources may not be from "top journals" and I have already stated I've not read the articles, only the abstracts. I also stated why some researchers may have troubles investigating FE. On the flip side I will say it's kind of difficult to do a "double blind" study in this area so there may be risk of influence by either subject or researcher. All that being said. My previous post indicates, how ever illogical, that FE (aka Squirting) is a real phenomena that is different in composition from pee. My personal experience with my wife also indicates FE to be a real phenomena. I welcome any substantial evidence you can provide that is contrary, but unless you can provide any experimental studies your comments, while expert opinions, are just that... opinions. EDIT: After re-reading the entire thread again it appears people may be making a distinction between Female Ejaculation and "Squirting" [Cytheria for instance]. My posts were written with the understanding they were one in the same. If that is not the case, my question is what is the dividing line between FE and Squirting.
  4. The scientist in me decided to do a little digging. Searching Google Scholar I found the following links. The Female Prostate Revisited: Perineal Ultrasound and Biochemical Studies of Female Ejaculate - Wimpissinger - 2007 - The Journal of Sexual Medicine - Wiley Online Library - 2007 G-spot and female ejaculation: fiction or reality... [Harefuah. 2007] - PubMed result - 2007 Magnetic Resonance Imaging of Female Prostate Pathology - Wimpissinger - 2009 - The Journal of Sexual Medicine - Wiley Online Library - 2009 Who's Afraid of the G-spot? - Jannini - 2010 - The Journal of Sexual Medicine - Wiley Online Library - 2010 Unfortunately these are only abstracts and I do not have access to the full articles, but there is clear, recent evidence for the existence of a G-spot and Female Ejaculation (being different from pee). There is not 100% conclusive evidence (evidence is never 100% conclusive in science) but my small survey of available online resources indicate those in the G-Spot/FE camp may be on to something. While some "FE" may be a result of incontinence during sex, this does not negate FE as a real phenomena. I can see difficulties in conducting experiments on the G-Spot/FE include the challenge of attaining sufficient arousal in a clinical environment, the reported variation of size of the G-spot, and techincal limitations (such as using a vibrator near an MRI is a big no-no) TLDR: Don't discount the G-spot/EF. The jury is still out and we are seeing more supporting evidence.
  5. I voted Protestant Christian, but specifically I am Episcopalian. Growing up I found myself struggling with the orthodoxy of other denominations. I really enjoyed the fact that my church was one that allowed parishioners to ask questions and did not assume that they (the church had all the answers. To quote a former add campaign for the Episcopal Church, "The problem with churches that have all the answers is they don't allow any questions." MS
  6. With this question I will quickly prove my ignorance with this question, but I am hoping your won't hold that against me.... What is a "landing strip" and where is it located specifically? MS
  7. My score was 430, my wife's score was 350. Maybe there is some hope after all... "Patience...yeah, yeah, how long will that take...." MS ----- Swinging would be fun, but Vanilla is better than Rocky Road.
  8. This post serves two purposes... This is my first post so I will introduce myself before getting to the topic at hand? (mouth?) As my name implies I am married to a wonderful woman who is not interested at this time... if she is never interested in the lifestyle, I can still have my fantasy and live vicariously through this wonderful site. Thanks As to the question at hand... my wife's reply was that the man should have his hands, "Where ever I tell him to have them!" Who am I to argue?!? Especially when getting head!
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