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  1. I'm interested in the topic. We are currently doing our risk assessment. That's where we are presently, that could change. There's still some things we aren't certain on. As you've said you are actively involved in the lifestyle and have long since done your own risk assessment and are conducting yourselves accordingly. You've decided that being intimate with strangers is worth the risk of open sores on your mouth and genitals sporadically for the rest of your life with no known cure. I'm just wondering how you got there and came to that conclusion. I'm driven by lust as well, but can't quite make that leap. If there were a vaccine for Herpes we would be there in a NY second. No lecture here.
  2. We all have to make choices that we can live with. Ironically, I'm not even concerned about AIDS, it's that pesky Herpes crap in the genital and mouth region that can be contracted even though there are no sores present. You can say your prepared to risk it, but if you contract it you'll need to disclose it to your playmates before hand, and few will swing with you knowing your infected. Face it, it takes the love out of the air big time. So you'll swing until you know your infected, and then the good times are basically over, or you could be infected unknowingly and be spreading it to your partners assuring them all the while you've met their ad requirements of being clean and disease free. Few and I mean few can say they know they are disease free, and most of these people don't have a clue as to what safe sex is. They think because they use a condom during intercourse they're practicing safe sex. Using a condom isn't safe sex, it's just a little safer sex. The precautions and do's and dont's of 99% safe sex from Herpes almost effectively eliminates any fun that might be had.
  3. Actually I did bother, and I've been on those threads in the past, plus the wife is a primary care provider. We are very well informed unfortunately. That's one reason I'm so paranoid. Yet with all the excellent info on this site (especially from the many links you provided), people conclude it's worth the risk. I'm not sure how it's possible to come to that conclusion, but some do. Maybe one day we'll be able to throw caution to the wind and reason out the window.......some day. I guess some assume I'm some christian morality troll here to give you a bad time. That's amusing............if you only knew. If I could find away to think myself into a bed filled with strangers, believe me I'd do it. I'm not sure how to defeat the left side of my brain that is saying this is not a wise thing to do. Anyway, like I said: Enjoy and peace
  4. Now that you've established that 50% percent of the population has it, and even children. I'm sure you feel justified in engaging in the behavior you do. Really, swinging is just like sharing a nap time pillow. How cozy. Now that swinging is heartily endorsed by the CDC, we'll be making our way to the Red Rooster soon. My wife and I have been members of a swing web site, and the people that contacted us I would say were greasy and creepy, porn looking people. Maybe I just need to come to grips with my own greasiness. Trolling, not really, but believe what you want. I would say, more frustrated because my logical brain won't let me engage in behavior my dick is telling me is like sharing a nap time pillow. Oh well, maybe some day. Like I said: Enjoy. I hope to be there as soon as I'm able to convince myself: what the fuck? Herpes ain't so bad. (no sarcasm)
  5. Well then, by all means kiss and participate in the bio diversity that all your partners have participated in the swinging community which should be quite a bit. It's certainly worth risk getting an STD for a few moments of lust. We've only done this once, but as much as I'd like to see my pretty little wife get pounded by another guy, there's inherently something a little greasy and creepy about the lifestyle and some of the people in it, and maybe it's some of their attitudes about disregarding the safety of their own health. For instance: some have the attitude of "We don't use condoms, but we will if you want us to" I don't even want to talk to someone like that let alone touch them. Yes, I'd like to participate, but I don't think I'll be able to penetrate somebody until I can penetrate the wall of reason and knowledge I have about infectious diseases. We are squeaky clean and we will stay that way.
  6. This also an excellent way to pass oral herpes. Swinging is so much fun. Enjoy !
  7. This guy is diligent and relentless. Anyone that looks through real estate listings just hoping to find your pic is on the dangerous side, and if he has your home phone, he also has your address. If he's close geographically, he will probably knock on your door or worse, your back door. This guy is unusual to say the least, but look where you posted your pic. Do not piss this guy off. You could go from getting fucked to much worse. I'm of course not telling you to fuck him, but he knows where you live, and his ego might not take well to being rejected untactfully. If I scared you, I hope so. You should be very scared. Lets face it, there are many freaks in this life style.
  8. Thanks for input DBL D, How long have you been doing this with your described boundaries?
  9. Thanks for helping me out with the info everybody. We're still trying to formulate a strategy. I've come up with this idea for a full latex body spray that will function as a full body condom (just kidding) We've only had one very soft experience with another couple years ago (basically just had sex with our own wives in front of each other). Yeah, I know, yippee, we're walkin' on the wild side. We're trying to decide if it's even worth the risk, and if all the boundaries would just take the fun out of it. We've been only with each other for more than 12 years, so we're definitely clean, and our sex is stupendous. It would probably be a thrill for her just to dance naked at the Red Rooster.
  10. I don't mean to sound like the discovery channel, but I think the alpa, beta thing applies here for couples that swing with single males. It must be made clear who is alpha. Their not even close to being equal. I'm thinking of making them suck my dick or toss my salad or something to establish this relationship.
  11. We're not even really in the lifestyle, and my wife meets these kinds of guys and they haven't even been intimate. I shudder to think what would happen if they were. I think when physical intimacy happens, guys start to feel a sense of ownership, despite what they've been told. There can be no confusion about who the alpha male is. You are. They are beta and will be summoned if required
  12. It may not be life threatening, but the stigma of having a STD for the rest of my life is not an option. Thanks for your post. The info was very helpful. We will just assume everybody is infected. Could you answer these questions? We're trying to find 100% safe boundaries here (may not be possible) Assuming our partners are infected, can she or me give a lubricated hand job to our partner safely? That's skin to skin, but can you contract it on your hands. Can a guy cum on her safely? She's got a fantasy of being in the center of a bunch of guys masturbating. It seems like we're going to fall in the extremely soft swinger category
  13. Imsnowman, Thanks for scaring the crap out of me. This is not a acceptable risk. How can anyone swing with this possibility hanging over their head. 25% that's crazy. So at the red Rooster, there's probably at least one person that has Herpes in that pile of bodies in one of their upstairs rooms. What? People just don't give a shit? There doesn't even need to be a visible out break to contract this virus. Are most people just not informed?
  14. I can't speak for every guy, but I'm one of those that's hard to get off. This is also a psychological experience. Sex is in the brain, not just physically in the penis. I notice the times I pop so quick it's embarrassing is when the women acts like sucking my cock is the best thing they've ever done (it isn't of course). When they suck it like it's the best tasting thing on earth and beg for the load, and then swallow. It's like the penis just wants to give it to them. You might want to try your acting skills out.
  15. the best option seems to be to have agreements with a circle of couples that pledge not to have contact oustside that group. To get in the group you must not have had contact with anyone for say, like a year and have clean records. Then it could be truly fun with ladies taking bodily fluids and full unrestricted oral. People that are not concerned about their health is not a turn on for me
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