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  1. I thought it was more about just raw sex, that if you looked alright to each other and there was nothing about them that was a turn-off, it was an opportunity to get some. Like a gang bang kind of sex where it is more about fucking than who is doing it to you. But it is about selecting someone you feel attracted to and having a more intimate sex, really getting into your playmate with total passion. It is a lot more than getting a nice dick and good pussy. I thought that a wife's ultimate sexual thrill would be to do it with a total stranger. Another thread says as I did above, women want to know a little about a guy first and choose yes or no based on her attraction to him. Although others said it was a fantasy to do some guy they had never met, a total stranger, even to be blindfolded and not even know who is doing her. I thought experienced swingers would like to take virgin newbees under their wing, lead them thru their first full swap, introduce them to friends. We went to a swingers campout weekend and expected that to happen. We expected to be introduced to other couples by our host. Instead we found we couldn't even make eye contact with anyone. All seemed to be groups of friends who didn't want to meet anyone else. We left the first night. I thought swingers were open minded also and uninhibited. Thought all would be naked and doing it on picnic tables, in the grass, beside the lake, but not one female was naked below the waist. Two guys were totally nude. Went to the party room during the evening party. Only two couples were doing it and a dozen rooms remained empty late into the night. I thought there would be a lot going on. Instead a rock band way to loud, and groups of people all drinking. No sex. No full nudity. We have had our first full swap since then and hope to find friends on our own or be introduced into a group of friends and actively join in the fun of the lifestyle with them.
  2. Dear Mr Chicup. I did not imply swingers are prostitutes, only made reference to the sexual openness simularities. You are the one who takes exception to the thread. Your right to do so. But do not make such an assumption and put it in my mouth. I said I did not imply anything. I said it was not to insult anyone. That it was conversational, for thinking people. If you are offended by a question no one else is, isnt that your problem? I dont need to hear about your thin skinned character and high moral attitude after going to lenght to include a disclaimer for people like you.
  3. I just watched the Keith Ablow show, kind of like Dr. Phil but no solving anyone's problems, just discussions, questions, more of a talk show. It was about the Bunny Ranch in Nevada where prostitution is legal. A tour showed how this place works. Each male is somewhat screened before selection of a girl. They go into a living room with private nooks so the girl can talk with the gentleman and get to know a little about him. Each girl is a private contractor and can turn down the gentleman if she doesn't want to do him. Each girl has her own rules about what she will and will not do, and sets her own price for what the guy wants. One girl in her late 30's early 40's had worked at the Ranch 7 months, entertained 75 guys in that time and made over $100,000. That averages over $1,300 per guy, so they are all professionals, not riff raff. 75 guys in 7 months is about 3 guys per week @$1300 each is about $4000 a week x 52 weeks is about $208,000.00 per year. This lady is married. She had a discussion with her husband about going to work there. She said on the show she likes sex with strangers. If they were not in Nevada it may have been a discussion about swinging 3somes. All the girls were asked why they enjoyed their job and all said they loved sex, the money was great, but they liked sex. My impression was they would have worked for office wages to have the sex. They, like swingers, realize the difference between sex and love. They, like swingers, had sex with men they just met, as wives do at an on-premise sex club. I am not trying to say swingers are like prostitutes. The thread is for fun, information and deep thinking, and maybe a fantasy. Please don't flame me if you take exception to the thread or make assumptions I have not made. The question is, if such a place as the Bunny Club was legal near you, would a swinger wife work as a prostitute there? The word "prostitute" prompts a negative reaction. If you would be called something like a sex therapist practitioner, not having the stigma as "prostitute" does, would you, as a swinger who likes sex with other men, do it for that kind of money in a nice, clean place like the Bunny Ranch was portrayed? Three guys a week for five years is over a million dollars. You would never have to work again in your entire life. Would you do it? Or would you give it away as a swinger, thinking your morals are above playing for money? The wife could be in one room, getting money for sex while her husband could be in another room and give the money back to the girl he was having sex with, a net result of zero dollars. Just like couples who swing in separate rooms.
  4. SEE!! There is a lot of us out there, huh. I nominate this thread as thread of the month. We are all getting older, that's a fact. We all are someday going to have to face this thread. If you are lucky you will make it to my age, 63. What needs to be said is we are still as horny in our desires as a 25 year old. And if we, at worst, are not as good as we once were but are only good once as we ever were, it is an hour of play and a 20 minutes of slow, romantic, rhythmic sex all the way to titty pinching, pussy pounding of a ride! And with the sensuality of swinging activities going on, and a little Levitra, fun is as assured as with a 25 year old, only more experienced and in less of a frenzy to get there, which means a lot of fun time along the way. Age is relative to the one who thinks about it. I think I am 45. We are all in an age category. From my life, I suggest that 'young' is to 30's, 'a little older' (than middle age) is in the 40's. 'Middle' age is 50's, 'Mature is 60's and 'senior' is 70's+. When are you going to want to quit the lifestyle because you are too old Mr. & Mrs 45 year old swingers? Aren't you going to want to have sex with another couple when you are 60? As was said, there is no niche for age, we are swingers, we are among you and think we are as young as you, just born in another year, and we can still give a heck of a ride.! I still go ohh! And she still goes Ahh!
  5. I think you said what I feel PrettyLady. If our rule says no anal and my wife in another room wants it, I expect her to break the rule. No kissing seems to take away the passion. That and same room seems sometimes like a possesion, or not without me or I am jealous of you alone with another man kind of thing but some just want to be together, share all and watch the other while reserving something ONLY for the two of them in their marriage. My thing is, I dont expect my wife to be restricted by rules I, or we, make when she suddenly has the desire. I dont need to be asked or obeyed in her performing sexual acts she desires. We want to trust our partner enough that no condom is required. We want our partner to be sexually desirable enough and sexually competant in being able to please and pleasure that we really lose ourselves, our inhibitions and become emotionally and sexually "into" that partner in the most intimate of relations. That leaves little room for "rules" other than common sense. The big rule is go home with me and still love me, maybe a little more for providing such a fun evening. And think of me when you want me to provide it again. As PrettyLady said, it is about respect for yourself in your desire and respect for how your mate would feel if you do it in frontt of him or with his knowlede you are in another room doing something he would be hurt by. What goes on in the bed, stays in the bed. Maybe not knowing what REALLY is happening has something to do with the thrill of seperate room swingers, you can really, really let go of all inhibitions and fill your desires and needs without hurting your S.O. when you are with a partner you are "into" when in seperate rooms.
  6. Much thanks to those who answered this thread. I learned our ads need not say "looking for older couple" but "looking for couple". "We are xx yrs old and....". Makes it sound more like seeking compatibility than age group.
  7. What rules have gone by the wayside since you first started swinging ?
  8. Seems like a lie is like a woman wearing falsies to a swing party. The real thing is going to become obvious, or she has to fuck with her blouse on the whole night. Play with what you have.
  9. Gee guys, I didnt mean to ask a question which needed phsycological insight into the workings of the subconcious mind and an analysis of my sexual preference. I am just a simple minded male, an electrician, asking if anyone, just for a second, ever felt like they would like to experience the magnitude of nearly ensatiable pleasure many females can experience, as well as the thrill of taking on several at once, which a male cannot do. I never had a thought of enjoying dick as a male, only as females experiences it. I dont have bi thoughts, desires or tendancies. I am proud of my normal 6 1/2 inches. Have thought one time or other I would have been happy to have been born with 8" inches like someone I might notice in a shower. Doesnt make me bi, gay, or anything other than a straight male who is not so homophobic as to deny someone elses dick is a nice one and thinking it would be fun to be able to change sexes with my wife just once to experience what she is getting out of being fucked and for her to experience the physical pleasure the male has in slipping his dick into a tight wet pussy and pounding her ass off
  10. I guess the real question of my post, precisely put, is this. Is there a burried feeling that you wish you counld change places with your wife to experience all the excitement and pleasure she is feeling, to receive a fucking and the attention she is getting instead of being the pleasure giver. (Yes I know, a pussy is pleasurable to a man. Please dont write) And does a wife watching her husband 'do' another female sometimes have a feeling she would like to be the one with the dick, fucking her, giving it to her, making her moan and groan. This idea of bi coming (wrongly) into the picture opens almost another thread. First off let me say I have seen some ugly guys in a shower, but I have never seen an ugly dick. I think as in the commercial, dick is good. Man Rule. Not gay, bi, curious or a sexual preference or tendency. Just a dick thing. Some you recognize as nicer than others. Period. Some you wish yours was as big as. Period. I am sure girls look at other girls tits and think the same thing. And I am sure they also notice each others pussy too. This brings about the bi thing. No one would think a thing about 2 females dancing and exchanging a kiss at a party. I wouldnt necessarily think they were bi, could be, but at least they are open to the appeal of their own sex and not homophobic about how they will be judged. Men are not allowed to wonder if they could become a woman for a few minutes wouldnt they enjoy dick too? Wouldnt it be exciting for them also? It is sex fun they cant experience that looks like sooooo much fun! And does a woman wonder what fun it would be to have a dick, mount a female and drive it into her? Also note that using words like "impaled", "driving it in", and others are a sign os hornyness and bad writting. Not an attitude or any other interpretation. So in a nutshell, when you are seeing your spouse haveing a great time with someone else, is all your feelings about just seeing nim or her having a graet time or is a little tiny bit of the excitement you wishing you could be him or her right then? Does anyone want to open a new thread about the number and acceptance of females who enjoy same sex fun and guys who may too, but are afraid, and rightly so in todays sexual world, that they would be labeled bi or gay. Women dont. What is the difference there? I cant see how a woman could watch her husband playing with another man and still maintain their view of his masuclinity. This is my thoughts.
  11. And as far as females, does a wife who likes to watch her husband fucking another woman, deep in her mind see herself as giving dick to another woman the way she wants it given to her? Does she share the same dick envy in a reverse role?
  12. Most men are really turned on watching their wife being impaled with another mans dick or several. Do not in any way think bi, gay or wanting to be a woman. Dont even go there, it is not intended to mean that But having spent developing years physically admiring your own, dont you kind of like it? Isnt there amoung most men a deep rooted 'specialness' to all nice dicks. Have you ever been turned off seeeing a really big one in a mens shower and have you wished you had it , and appreciate it, and would have looked at it longer if it weren't for fear of being seen looking . There is, I think, a dick washop of dick in general. And who amoung men and boys has never said 'if i was a girl I would be fucking all the dick I could get' :surrender . Just a thought. I am no phsyciatrist, dont even know if I spelled it right, but I do cum to conclusions ! Is maybe being turned watching his wife a man's idea of what he would want to be doing if he were a female? He would want to be getting as much dick as a female as he wants her to get, in a way that turns him on to see, and her responces to the pleasure of being fucked that he would like to experience if he were a female? Just a thought for a thread. What do you think? Is there dick envy going on deep inside men?
  13. First time swinging or experienced, I think it is the rules that count. Do you both have the same rules? Do you both expect the same thing? Are you good company for each other? These are the important things, not how many other people someone has been with. I beleive that experience is a good thing. I couldn't even operate a debit card machine until someone showed me. Not that newbies need to be shown how to do it, but you know just a little more about comfortability, mood setting and getting down to sex and into bed with another couple after you have experienced it. It would seem easier with couples who have been there, done that and are willing to make the moves and do things first timers may be uncoomfortable in showing their desire for experiencing. I dont believe anyone thinks they are better at sex or more desirable than first timers. I think there are a lot of thing like jealousy, modesty, concern for their spouse and other issues that newbies have yet to actually experience. They may, after the first time, decide it is not for them. It would make the get together less of the good time they are hoping for and know that all have 'done it', and are truly ready to play without reservations. No one is putting newbies down. Who doesnt like "fresh virgin meat"? You are desireable to all, but until you prove to yourselves that you are all for it, you are an unknown to all who see you as first timers. We all started with our first time. Just find someone who will make it easy for you to enjoy it, and drop the attitude anyone thinks they are holier than thou. That in itself is a turn off you need to get over. You are much to serious about this as an issue, it is a discussion you should learn from, things you should think about to make sure you are truly ready and make that clear to potential couples and let them show you what they have learned. It isnt rocket science, it is understanding the understandable things people think about when choosing another couple to share their most intimate sexual moments with.
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