Prostitution In The Lifestyle

[Spoomonkey]

We have noticed a growing trend at one of the clubs we attend - sex for money.

The first time we saw it - a group of dancers came in and did a show. There were "levels of participation" based on how much you wanted to pay. For the door fee - you could see the show. For a bit more - you could head into the back for a more intimate show. The fees and levels went up from there, to private lap dances to sexual favors for cash.

The next time we were made aware of it was when the owner of the club, in a discussion with us complained that a male had offered a female money for sex. My thought at the time was - when you invite that element in (as with the dancers), it is going to stick...

And the last - and certainly the funniest - was a couple of "sugar daddies" showing up with a pair of 20-somethings dressed like they'd just been picked up curb-side. The girls came in jeans (a club "no-no") and had to buy new clothes to stay. As we were the ones working the clothing store, we were not surprised that the men paid in cash (big rolls) and dressed the girls in whatever they wanted.

What was funny was to see the same two "sugar daddies" turned "towel sharks" walking around the club, in towels, asking if anyone had seen two young girls.

I know - it is cruel to laugh - but come on... How dumb do you have to be?

The girls, and the clothes, and we are sure whatever fee they were given were long gone at this point.

Personally - I have never visited a prostitute. I don't have a thing against them and think they do provide a service in the proper context. But - just like drugs - bringing it into our club puts everyone at legal risk; from being raided and possibly embarrassed professionally and personally to simply losing the club.

I would imagine that this happens at just about every club to some degree. Lately, it just seems very "out there" at this particular club.

What are others' experience with it? How do you feel about this?

For us, if we did not work at this club (not for the club, just at the club), we'd take a break until we heard that this had cooled down a bit. As it is, we have to be there right now and the seeming common-ness of it scares the crap out of us.

Spoomonkey

PS - Paying for sex at a swing club is like paying for dinner at a potluck. If this is you, it is time to reassess... :rollseyes

[Mrs.PaganLovers]

Wow, Spoo, that is too bad because I really liked that club. If that is what is happening, we won't be going there anymore. I won't take a chance of the cops turning the place over. Have you told the owner what is going on? I can't imagine her allowing that! I agree with the paying for dinner at a potluck. That is the wrong environment for strippers, there was one there the last time we were there and it made me uncomfortable. Don't ask me why there is a difference between swingers being naked and strippers taking off their clothes for money, but to me there is. I don't have a problem with strippers, but they don't belong in a swing club.

Just my 2 cents worth

Blessings
Mrs. PL

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by Mrs.PaganLovers

Have you told the owner what is going on?

Actually - the owner told us about the "indecent proposal". And they were very aware of the stripper event and how that played out. I was mostly shocked by that.

I think the stripper thing was mostly a lack of "putting two and two together". Surprisingly, I just don't think they realized the implications of it. But, I do think that it is something that they are going to be watching a lot closer now.

Since you know which club I am talking about, I think it is really an adjustment period as it is growing quickly and attracting a very diverse crowd as they cater to a broader range of people. The place is really hitting a stride! But, it has meant that they aren't quite ready to keep things under control. I think they are still learning how to keep up with the growing crowds.

I do think it is something that is going to be controlled.

Fortunately, the cops around here tend to be lifestyle friendly. They don't want to lose their club anymore than we do

Spoomonkey

[VanHlebar]

Holy Shit Batman!!! or Purple Monkey!

I can't believe the owners of the club would tolerate that type of activity, but then again, if it is bringing in more business for them, they might think the ends justify the means.

For me, I am glad we don't goto that club very often anymore and unfortunately we really do continue to hear weird things about the club, most of which are truely bad, but are just out there type things.

I wouldn't want to be part of the club at this point as I just would not want to be around when/if the cops raided the joint. Not to mention the pissed off look on my face that I would get when I started chatting with a lady and then thought the evening was going perfect and have her say.."So it will be $200 for xxx...." I think I might have a small issue with that.

-Van

[Chicup]

I'd be far too paranoid about the potential of a police raid to go near a club where it was apparent prostitution was going on.

It would also be a very easy sting, which gives me a thought.

Always avoid a club 3 months prior to a local election.

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

We have noticed a growing trend at one of the clubs we attend - sex for money.

The first time we saw it - a group of dancers came in and did a show. There were "levels of participation" based on how much you wanted to pay. For the door fee - you could see the show. For a bit more - you could head into the back for a more intimate show. The fees and levels went up from there, to private lap dances to sexual favors for cash.

You've got a better sense of humor than me. I find this disturbing.

I have nothing against prostitution and even feel it should be legalized, BUT, swingers clubs are NOT the place for exchanging money for sex.

Sex for money will bring your favorite club to its downfall. You obviously have a good relationship with the owners, hopefully you can convince them to lay down some rules pronto to stop prostitution in their club. If not, their good reputation will take a turn for the worst and they could lose everything they've worked hard for.

LM

[bill&sabrina]

Wow! What club? If it is so great you would risk going to jail, I wanna go.

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

I have nothing against prostitution and even feel it should be legalized, BUT, swingers clubs are NOT the place for exchanging money for sex.

This made me think...

I agree with you that there should be some level of legalization, but if that did happen - how would this affect swing clubs? And how would that affect your interest in attending one?

Maybe that should be its own thread...

Spoomonkey

UPDATE - The above question now has it's own thread

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

This made me think...

I agree with you that there should be some level of legalization, but if that did happen - how would this affect swing clubs? And how would that affect your interest in attending one?

Maybe that should be its own thread...

Spoomonkey

I wouldn't go to a swing club that allowed prostitution. It conflicts with the whole "free social sex" platform that swinging stands on.

Allowing the 'business' of prostitution in a club would be like allowing people to come in for the sole purpose of selling their product or service, like insurance, or landscaping, cars, or beauty products and lingerie. I don't want to go to a club and meet a person who I discover is there for the primary purpose of making money and they're hoping they can sell their stuff to me.

I can go to conventions for that. :rollseyes

LM

When Mr.Van told me to check out this thread and told me about it I was shocked...I could not believe that the owners were allowing this in their club. That is a huge risk to take and think that if they want to keep the business coming they may want to look at ways at resolving these issues so they do not only loose business but end up hurting alot of people in the long run if the place was raided.

I know what club your talking about and it is ashame that this is happening. I on the other hand would be highly upset if someone was to come up to me or MrVan and want us to hand over money for just a lapdance or sex...Come on, isnt this what the lifestyle is about? Free sex and free lap and pole dances??? I think that management needs to stop this before it gets way out of hand and they find themselves being a hang out for prostitutes and possibly more that would go along with it. It could very well attrack the wrong crowd.

MrsVan

[good times]

We used to host at a local on-premise club occasionally and one of my jobs as host was the removal of undesirables from the club. We didn't have a problem with people coming and trying to charge the other guests for sex. We did have a problem with illegal prostitutes showing up with their customers because it was a convenient place to have sex and cheaper than a motel. Luckily they are pretty easy to spot and we would promptly throw them out.

Even though prostitution is legal in some areas of Nevada, it is not legal in the two largest metropolitan areas, Reno and Las Vegas. So if their were to be any prostitution happening at a swing club it would be illegal and the club would be cited or closed down in nothing flat. For that reason all of the local clubs are extremely vigilant at keeping the illegal prostitutes out. An illegal prostitute here is one not working in one of the legal brothels, if a legal prostitute came to a club she wouldn't even think about charging someone at a club because she would lose her job in the legal brothel if caught. We probably don't see as much of this as other major cities because we have legal prostitution, if a girl is working legally she doesn't want to jeopardize that by working illegally.

If I did find out a club was allowing that type of activity, knowingly or not, I would not attend until they put a stop to it. One of the local on-premise clubs that recently went out of business was at least partially doomed because of allegations that they had been cited a couple of times for prostitution at the club. It didn't take long for word to get around and people started avoiding the place like the plague. The club owners of your club need to take decisive action to show that this type of activity won't be tolerated or their current growth will likely turn into a nose dive into bankruptcy.

[kush2112]

Why did you not call the police? I am sure that they have dealt with these individuals before and would know them by name. The fact that this is going on is just another black mark on clubs and the lifestyle as a whole and should not be tolerated one bit.

[spectraschain]

Why did you not call the police?

You'd do this???

I'm sure you would alert the honorable patrons to the fact that the police were on the way...

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by kush2112

Why did you not call the police?

Pretty simple, really...

1. The dancers - I was not there that night.

2. The "indecent proposal" - I was not there that night.

3. The "sugar daddies" - No doubt whatever money changed hands before they arrived at the club as I doubt the women would have left without it.

But, to be honest, since I work there, I wasn't really in the mood to be caught up in a raid that I called in. That seems rather stupid. Could a raid happen? Until they get a handle on things, I do think so sure. But am I going to initiate it myself? No - I am not.

Besides - I do like the owner and want them to succeed. I think they are fixing things. I have my eyes open - and if things don't turn around we'll be out of there. But, I'll give them time - they are in a growing phase and I think it is overwhelming.

At least it's not like the place is being overrun by "pot heads" :rollseyes

Spoomonkey

[SW_PA_Couple]

I have seen nothing remotely resembling sex for money at any swingers' club.