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dave1234

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About dave1234

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  • Relationship Status
    BiCPL
  • Location
    Colorado
  • Swinging Experience
    6 months

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  • Favorite Club(s)
    Mon Chalet Denver, CO
  1. We are very cautious when swinging. My wife uses her middle name instead of her first name (which is an unusual name). We never give out our address or phone number. And, we keep a pit bull at home. Our concern was more about single women becoming "hangers on" than single men. Most of us in the lifestyle know the difference between love and sex but some singles may become emotionally obsessed. Always be on the lookout for the warning signals (too many emails, attempts to get too emotionally close, etc.). We have only had a few uncomfortable experiences, no really bad ones. These have mostly involved things getting out of control in orgies. We simply stopped going into orgies. We also had a bad situation in a public MFM when a single masturbating "lurker" just kept getting too close (my wife calls it "within squirting distance"). He simply would not back off when asked, so we just stopped and sat down.
  2. I guess I am unusual. I prefer au natural - pubes and pits. What the hell is wrong with everyone? Would most guys not go down on a hot woman just because she was not shaved? The hair in your teeth the next day is just a reminder of the fun the night before...
  3. Here are some of my thoughts... Hug and cheek kiss when greeting people: Fine, polite and very European. Deep mouth kiss when greeting: Pushy, disrespectful and low class. Kissing in the heat of the moment MF: OK but a little uncomfortable. Kissing in the heat of the moment FF: Cool! Kissing in the heat of the moment MM: The thought makes me nauseous. Cuddling in bed - MF: OK during the cool down period. Cuddling in bed - FF: Cool! Cuddling in bed - MM: Yuck! Cuddling, hand holding out of bed: No way. On the last point, a few comments.... I think hand holding or cuddling in public is a territorial declaration in western culture. The statement is: "we are mates and this is our territory". If a guy was to try to hold Anne's hand in public I would feel that he is declaring her as "his property". Oddly this is not the case in eastern cultures where hand holding is casual and common among people of the same sex, even grown men (maybe a Buddhist thing?).
  4. I guess we are Leftcoasters. We are not looking for a lifestyle relationship. We already have friends and are just looking for a party. A big part of this is to do something outside our "normal life". Might make us elitists, so what?
  5. OK, I got this from another BB: HIV Infection From Receiving Oral Sex is Rare, Study Says August 14, 2001 News Office: Jeff Sheehy (415) 597-8165 A study by researchers from UCSF's Center for AIDS Prevention Studies (CAPS) found the probability of HIV infection through unprotected receptive oral sex with a man to be statistically estimated as zero. "Our study looked at exclusive receptive oral intercourse with a male partner, and we found that the probability of acquiring HIV through that specific sexual activity is very, very low. Given that the results are based on a relatively small sample, we can not rule out the possibility that the probability of infection is indeed greater than zero," said study lead author Kimberly Page Shafer, assistant professor of medicine at UCSF's CAPS. The study is ongoing and the findings will be amended by the researchers with greater numbers. "While our study is the first to attempt to systematically define the risk, case reports exist of infections acquired through oral contact. I want to emphasize that, while rare, acquiring HIV infection orally is possible and that many other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) such as gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis are transmitted orally," added Shafer. The study, presented today (August 14) at the Second National Prevention Conference in Atlanta, enrolled 198 participants from anonymous testing and counseling sites in San Francisco. The participants, 98 percent male and 100 percent identified as gay or bisexual, reported no anal or vaginal sex and no injection drug use in the six months prior to entering the study. The participants reported a median of two receptive oral intercourse partners and 98 percent reported unprotected receptive oral intercourse. Twenty percent of the participants reported receptive oral intercourse with an HIV positive partner. Of that group, 89 percent did not use a condom and 40 percent swallowed ejaculate. The participants were screened for HIV infection and also for recent HIV infection using both the standard test for HIV and a test for HIV that is "detuned" to detect only those HIV infections that have occurred within the six months prior to taking the test. Out of the 198 participants, only one HIV infection was reported, and that infection had not been recently acquired and could not be attributed to the period of exclusive oral receptive intercourse. No recently acquired HIV infections were reported by any of the other participants in the study. Statistically, the study yielded a zero probability of acquiring HIV orally. The study is funded by the National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research.
  6. Sorry, you get a bi-male response. But then I have the job of vetting the dicks. For my wife bigger is not better. An 8 in guy is going to get told to ease up - I guess getting your cervix knocked by a dick is about as fun as a kick in the balls. We also find that oral sex with an "average" guy is a lot more fun than feeling like you have had your mouth locked open for dental surgery.
  7. Yikes, I was trying to reduce the fear. Now I am more scared than before - HHV VI!?!? Is there a III, IV, and V I should worry about? Seriously, I think people should be careful. Take a decent look and feel of what is going in your mouth before it does. Always use a condom for intercourse. Avoid any anal with swing partners. But since body condoms and celibacy are not on the agenda we take a calculated risk. I just wish someone would post some good statistical problems here then I could have a teaching moment.....
  8. My wife and I require condoms for vaginal but not for oral. Neither of us, however, will let guys cum in our mouths. I always double check for a condom when she is having intercourse. We also don't allow swing partners to penetrate her anally. I personally hate condoms so I engage in intercourse with my wife and just engage in oral with our partners. The oral sex thread here seems to be a bit paranoid. These are some of the facts and anecdotes I have picked up over the years: There is only one case of documented oral transmission of HIV. Saliva and stomach acid are pretty effective at killing germs that don't belong there. HIV is very fragile - it dies almost immediately outside the body. A Nevada brothel worker I played with a few years back (I was in divorce recovery mode) told me she always let men cum in her mouth (and she swallowed for nice guys like me). She was in her 40's and had been working legally and illegally since she was 14. She was tested for HIV and other STD's monthly and never came up positive. Most people already have herpes - their bodies are just good at keeping it under control. Most of us had a few cold sores as kids and then they stopped. Susceptibility to frequent active herpes is probably a funtion of an individual's immune system. I worry about the attitude that swingers are relatively safe. I have watched gang bangs at our club where a particular woman gathers up every single guy at the pool and has unprotected intercourse with them. That is insane!
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