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Tom & Bonnie last won the day on May 12 2008

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About Tom & Bonnie

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    Club Owners
  • Birthday 01/13/1962

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    Couple
  • Location
    San Antonio, Texas
  • Interests
    Swinging and Sex!
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    Swingers Club Owners
  • Swinging Experience
    20+ Years
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    Oct. 13

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    Players
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    The Player's Club

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  1. The high rise next door and the low bookings at Cabo convinced the de la Pena family to go with the "Temptations" theme. Since the high rise will now overlook the nude and play areas at the resort they owners, in discussions with the neighboring resorts/hotels agreed to pull the plug on Desire Los Cabos. There are no current plans to have a Desire themed resort on the west coast of Mexico. Rather, the Cancun location will be getting more beach area, a new building with 45 more rooms and group activity rooms, a pool with a swim-up bar and a bigger and much improved restaurant.
  2. Vegas lee is correct. The travel agency gets, on average, 20% commission on Desire rooms. Desire establishes the price the quotes are based on. Any cheaper rates are coming out of the agencies portion, not the resort. LSO is now restricted from any takeovers at Desire because they have failed to pay up on rooms they have sold. I believe there is still an active lawsuit against McGinley and Lifestyles travel. This is why Mcginley has started another travel company called Illusion tours aka Ascot Service providers aka Promise-resort.com. My club, Player's, is currently the only swingers club still allowed to do a complete resort takeover at Desire, so I do know of which I speak. But, don't expect room rates at Desire to go lower anytime soon. the place is booking up all the time.
  3. Umm, Desire Los Cabos has been open a couple of years now, not new. However, to answer your question, the resort is not attracting that many people and that coupled with the construction of a new high rise hotel next door that will overlook the nude rooftop jacuzzi and pool is the reason the hotel is changing into a Temptations Resort that will only be topless and no longer couples only.
  4. Basically, if the owners are accepting payment for entry into an on premise clubs and then have sex with same couples they could, albeit a stretch, be considered engaging in prostitution. Being a person who has a knack for finding loopholes in anything, I have worked it out as such. We stand at the door and when a couple enters that we consider worthy, we offer them a free entry for the evening as soon as they complete and in-depth tour of the play room with the owners! LOL No, not really.....
  5. Hell no! We would not want to own a swingers club at all... Oh wait...... Too late! Damn!
  6. Truer words have never been spoken my friend! It's a shame that more people don't take the time to enlighten themselves.
  7. Sorry, that i missed your post... European Style means simply that one must be disrobed before entering the actual play areas. Upon entering our Green Door Lounge you come first to a locker room. Here an attendant will offer you a towel and a locker for your belongings. You must disrobe and stow your belongings before heading back to the play area. We allow members to go nude, wear a towel or bring a robe/lingerie from home. We do not allow anyone to wear street clothes of any kind. Several reasons for that... First it cuts down on the amount of traffic flowing through the playroom. If everyone was allowed back there with clothes on there would be so many people standing around looking those that wanted to play could not get back there. Second, it's hard to hide a camera when your naked! Everyone wants to make a memory of their experience and with the proliferation of camera phones we're very concerned about the privacy and discretion of our members. We also do not allow, smoking, drinks, food or gum in the back. We have a water cooler, condoms & lube provided gratis. We will also remove members if they start talking loudly or otherwise bothering those of us who can't maintain an erection with all the distractions going on! LOL
  8. Oh this time they did. But 8 years ago it was the cops. Two undercovers came in, produced fake id, tried to blend in, ended up getting a little hammered themselves but really couldn't produce anything to stick us with. So the next night two plain clothes detectives came to the door, tried to barge their way in without so much as a warrant, nor did they identify themselves as police, just tried to brush past me. And when I blocked the door way they attacked me, handcuffed me and charged me with assault. Took me downtown and locked me up for the rest of the night in jail. The reason for being there? They said they were investigating a complaint. I asked for a copy of it and they said they didn't have one. Long story short, charges were dropped after we produced a video of the cops attacking me, not me assaulting them. So many lies in their report! I have a lot of good friends that are Police that do the right thing, but there are still some rogues out there that will break the law and lie about it to harass and make their point.
  9. Julie, That would be correct! If the cops are coming into your facility to check you out you can expect that they will be using fake id's and names. However, their pictures will be of themselves so if you have an actual photocopy of the license the presented they cannot make a complaint against you and you can show that they intended to defraud you and your membership policies. It really is a sad state of affairs that our police are the ones committing crimes in order to try and catch someone else....
  10. Exactly! Let me provide a recent example that will illustrate what happens when the club requires membership forms and copies of valid Govt issued id's on couples that want to attend your party. A few months ago two news reporters with the local ABC affiliate presented themselves as a couple for membership at our club. They were required to fill out all the personal information on our membership, sign same and produce photo id's for us to copy and attach to their membership form. Our membership form is quite extensive and covers some predetermined civil liabilities for those that violate our agreement. Now this couple came in, several times, checked out all areas of the club, including the large European style playroom, although they would not disrobe to go into the actual play area ( a valid reason for having a European Style Playroom), and gathered a lot of information. Apparently they wisely decided not to bring in cameras or did not use any pictures they took clandestinely as that would violate the terms of our agreement and cause a predetermined civil liability to kick in making us very rich in the process. As a matter of fact, their attorneys may have informed them that they could not use any of the information they obtained as it would cause a financial hardship that would not be worth it to them to air any story about us at all. So, what they did instead was to call the Vice department with the local police and file a complaint about lewd behavior. Apparently they were thinking the police would conduct a raid inviting their reporters and cameras along for the party. Well, that didn't happen either as the police stopped by during the week when nothing was going on, asked to come in which we gladly offered to do and showed them around. Once they saw our membership application, id requirement business licenses as a private social club, etc., they said nothing illegal going on here and signed off on same. Case closed! Now, if we did not require id's, personal info, etc. we would've been all over the nightly news and on the front page of the local paper. So, if your club does not require these things, ask them why not! As nobody wants to see their club, much less themselves on the evening news...
  11. This is a problem that many who attempt to open a club are clueless about. Now my comments refer only to private, members only, BYOB clubs So, here we go.... Swingers club go the private BYOB route as that is the best and safest way to offer a venue for swingers as most laws do not cover them.... yet! When you have a liquor license you are indeed a public venue no mater how much you claim to be private. And as such you give up many rights, one of those is the ability to allow swingers to behave like swingers, go topless, erotic dancing, touching, petting and sexual activities. When you're private and BYOB you can claim the privacy route and prohibit law enforcement to enter (legally) although they will do whatever the hell they want to. You will have protection of the law after the fact. By having a membership club you will institute certain formalities that will uphold your status as a private club. Foremost is the one on the membership form that states that you will not be offended by displays of sexual activity and nudity. In Texas at least, check your local laws, that will negate any legal action that could possibly be brought up against the club as long as you can verify that the persons who signed your legal documents (membership form) are who they say they are. In other words, when an undercover couple comes into your club ( and they will) they cannot claim to be offended if they signed the documents and you have a copy of their id on file. As far as keeping those files private and out of the hands of the government there is a US Supreme court decision (NAACP v State of Alabama) that upheld the right of private associations to privacy and that the government has no business or authority to have access to membership lists. I hope you understand this confusing post but the bottom line is this... If you attend a club that allows nude displays or sexual activities (on premise) and they do not require your legal names and id's you are at risk of being arrested for public lewd displays. Of course the laws in your state may vary but most are similar. In Texas the laws state: § 21.07. PUBLIC LEWDNESS. (a) A person commits an offense if he knowingly engages in any of the following acts in a public place or, if not in a public place, he is reckless about whether another is present who will be offended or alarmed by his: (1) act of sexual intercourse; (2) act of deviate sexual intercourse; (3) act of sexual contact; or (4) act involving contact between the person's mouth or genitals and the anus or genitals of an animal or fowl. (b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor. Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994. § 21.08. INDECENT EXPOSURE. (a) A person commits an offense if he exposes his anus or any part of his genitals with intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person, and he is reckless about whether another is present who will be offended or alarmed by his act. (b) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor. Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1983, 68th Leg., p. 509, ch. 924, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1983; Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.
  12. Oh no, we're not grits fans at all. But this recipes is to die for and probably the only way I will eat grits. They are Garlic Cheese grits baked in the oven... Recipe follows GRILLADES & GARLIC CHEESE GRITS New Orleans Favorite Breakfast/Brunch Dish INGREDIENTS 4 Pounds of veal or beef round steak 1 Teaspoon thyme ½ Cup bacon drippings or vegetable oil 1 Cup water or beef stock ½ Cup flour 1 Cup red wine 2 Cups of chopped onions 3 Bay leaves 1 ½ Cups of chopped green onions 3 dashes of Worcestershire sauce 1 Cup chopped celery ½ Cup chopped parsley 4 Cloves of garlic, chopped fine Salt, red and black pepper to taste. 3 Tomatoes (medium) chopped INSTRUCTIONS Start by cutting steaks into serving-size pieces and removing any external fat. In large heavy bottomed pot add bacon drippings or oil and brown meat well. After meat is well -browned (remember the browning gives the flavor) set aside. Add flour to the same pot with drippings and stir continually, making a roux. Cook until the color of a penny; add onions, green onions, celery and cook until soft and limp. Next add the garlic, tomatoes thyme mixing all ingredients together. Add water or stock, wine, bay leaves, salt, pepper and Worcestershire sauce. Simmer all ingredients for 10 minutes add veal or beef pieces of meat back to pot stirring well. Cover and cook until meat is fork tender but not falling apart. You can add water during the cooking process if gravy gets too thick. Taste during the cooking for seasoning (salt and pepper) and add if needed. You can always add if you think Grillades need more seasoning but seasoning is hard to remove. When seasoned and meat very tender add parsley and serve over grits. Garlic Cheese Grits INGREDIENTS: * 6 cups water * 2 teaspoons salt * 1 1/2 cups grits * 1/2 cup butter * 3 eggs, well beaten * 16 ounces shredded sharp Cheddar cheese * 2 to 3 cloves garlic, finely minced * cayenne pepper to taste PREPARATION: Bring water and salt to a rolling boil; gradually stir in grits with fork. Cook, stirring constantly, until all water is absorbed. Stir in butter a tablespoon at a time; stir in the beaten eggs, working quickly so eggs will not cook before thoroughly blended into the grits, then stir in the shredded cheese, garlic and a little cayenne pepper. Put into a greased 2 1/2-quart casserole. Bake at 350° for 1 hour and 15 to 20 minutes. Serves 8.
  13. Grits are what those of us in the south call polenta... My favorite breakfast was one I prepared for friends of ours from deep in the heart of Cajun country in Louisiana. I surprised the Sunday morning with Grillades and Grits... Ohh man, Chere! Laisez les bon temps roulette!
  14. Ummm, for that matter there is no legitimate scientific evidence validating ANY religious philosophies
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