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DarkVoyuer

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  1. I agree. Unfortunately, I do not want to participate in this type of fantasy.
  2. This fantasy is very underrated in terms of prevalence. The misconception is that every guy wants two women to make love to one another. However, there are a lot of guys who are not thrilled by this. I don't get how it became every guy's fantasy. However, I have read many stories about women who fantasize about men making love to men. This is so underreported by the media. Personally, I am not interested in making love with men. However, that does not affect my objectivity. The bottom line is that there are women who find this fantasy appealing.
  3. I would agree with you but a lot of people are insecure in some areas. I would not implement such a rule but would you be the person who tries to persuade them to have less stringent boundaries. Perhaps I am like a woman, but I find it hard to believe that 90% of men can not be friends with women without wanting to fuck them. I have been friends with many women, and very of few of them I wanted to sleep with. I am sorry, I just don't get that. It frankly does not make sense to me. Do you only pick woman friends who you find sexually desirable? Perhaps I'm missing something, but I am absolutely clueless on why this perception exists and its logical foundation. BTW There are a lot of women who are friends with men they(women) want to sleep with.
  4. Some people are insecure and they may need those types of rules. However, can we honestly say these types of rules do not work? Couples with very conservative boundaries and swinging couples with very liberal boundaries can have successful relationships.
  5. I agree with you but I do understand it within my own ideology. I personally believe I would rather strive to have as less boundaries as possible. I think part of the reason behind this rule is because of the belief that men and women can not just be friends. Someone in the platonic relationship, stereotypically the male, wants it to be sexual. As male who finds stereotypes annoying, I disagree with it. However, if that rule makes them more secure, good luck to them.
  6. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought his scenario concerned a woman offering to stroke a guys penis. If that was the case, there are guys who may decline. If this is not the case, my bad.
  7. Suppose a couple had the following rules: 1. Neither member of the relationship can attend night clubs without the other. 2. No member of the opposite sex can not be friend of neither of the partners, they can only be their (the partners') acquaintances. 3. Flirting with those of the opposite sex is forbidden. Many vanilla peers who are monogamous find these rules too restrictive. I personally think these couples should be able to set any rules they want in their relationship. What I find amazing is when these types of couples are on talk shows, many monogamous vanillas accuse them of being "insecure." I do not have an objection towards people who create these rules if they think it will protect their marriage. I am also amazed that some vanillas are certain that only the act of sexual intercourse outside of marriage or a serious relationship should be viewed as potentially harmful to all monogamous relationships. Many of them would strongly support rules 1 and 2. I would like to know how swingers feel about this situation. If you knew a couple like this, would you tell them that they are too insecure? Do you think this could be a model for a healthy relationship for some vanillas? I ask this because the swinger ideology has rules that are less restrictive than this couple.
  8. I can see several single males who would say no. If they do not find the woman attractive, all bets are off. If she is brutally stuck up, for some men, all bets are off. I am not saying many men would say yes. However, there will be men who are not attracted to the woman who said it.
  9. I know several men who have shot down attractive woman who asked for sex. Perhaps this annoying male stereotype is not as strong as it is projected. Did you want to have sex with her? You know I have had sexual fantasies of rejecting beautiful women by using the same game you are playing. I guess I get annoyed at the stereotype that men can not have sexual power in that manner. Gender stereotypes just annoy. Perhaps I do not like to be viewed as simple. Ironically, I conform to many of the female stereotypes. I know some men who play this type of game. It's a little bit naughty, but it shows that men can leverage sexual power as well. I hate to say this, but men who know they can have sex with little effort are more likely to be called egomaniacs. Perhaps they are more blatant in their confidence. However, I am sure there are women who are as arrogant because they think or now they can have sex with little effort.
  10. Great point and a point that is brutally understated in the vanilla world and surprisingly, in this forum. Just because there is a perception that women can get sex easier than men, does not mean that guys do not reject women for sex.
  11. I am curious how often this happens that handsome men you find are asexual? It is not a rhetorical question. I really want to know because it seems to me that many swingers on this forum have stereotypes of men being ridiculously easy. BTW I never got dudes who want to cum in two minutes. BTW I am sorry you got shot down.
  12. I agree. Most single men are not comfortable screwing your wife with you. The swinger male is an exception to the rule.
  13. I ask because I truly suspect this group is a community based group that has secular and religious people. I ask you the question because I am trying to evaluate whether my perception of mainstream hostility towards many alternative lifestyles may be paraniod. Many members have told me that most of this crap is started by religious wackos. I have really have no idea who this opposition group is but my prejudice says they are people who are from the mainstream which includes a few religious nuts. In other words, they are regular people with various beliefs. It is ironic that I am saying this because in the past I blamed the hostility towards all alternative lifestyles on only religious fundamentalism. Fifteen years ago you would not find any guy who was more indignant of the idea of Christian fundamentalism than myself. I guess I have mellowed out.
  14. It seems to me that the negative stereotypes of swingers is strongly influencing this opposition.
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