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    Couple
  • Location
    Providence, RI
  • Interests
    Motorcycles, games, reading, medieval recreation
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    His Swing Club and Convention Operator. Hers Sex Boutique retail sales.
  1. Trapeze is an american style club. So in answer to your question: YES, you will be required to disrobe in the areas of the club that allow intimacy (there are parts of the club where you may remain clothed) and a towel can/will be provided for you if you wish not to be naked in the "play areas". I have heard wonderful things about Trapeze, I hope you have a great time.
  2. I know this reads harshly. It is not a general flame, merely a frustrated set of observations. There are a few reasons public interest groups can close down your local club. The first is that the "swing community" is a collection of individuals that are so concerned that they will be outed that they will not in any way publicly act as a community and support a club that may be having issues. Therefore, "Swinger" is not a voting group that politicians and lawmakers consider, like they do "public interest groups". The Second is that historically the "swing community" has failed to financially support any of the groups that defend First Amendment rights and therefore might help them. The third is that most clubs that run into trouble are not run legally and therefore cannot be protected because they do not obey existing laws. The fourth is that clubs do not typically look out for each other and often are actively hostile to one another. It is depressing and self destructive. So how can you help... Step up to the plate and call or write local officials when a local club has problems. Support groups like the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom (NCSF.org). Encourage existing groups like the North American Swing Club Association (NASCA.com) and your local clubs to do more to protect you and to work together. Make sure that you obey the law and that you patronize clubs that obey the law.
  3. Actually, in opening any such venture you have a number of problems and financing the cost is just the first and most obvious one. Zoning/Licensing and desirability of available locations are probably going to be an even bigger problems. I like the ideas expressed above in all the posts in this thread. I try to offer as much of them as I can. But I always have to compromise because of costs, and legalities (zoning, licensing, and location). Best of luck to you, Hope you win the lottery anyway.
  4. WA_Cple..... The only way to tell is to do your homework. The information might be listed in their website or other advertising materials, but I doubt it. You will probably need to call or e-mail and ask specifically. While you are at it consider asking the following 3 questions. Is there a tour or orientation we can attend? (this should ensure there are no additional suprises concerning rules) When are your doors open? (some clubs have limited arrival hours) Are you zoned to operate a business and if so what licensing was required/obtained? (swinging is generally not illegal, but the way the club is operated might be) A question that won't do you much good...... How many people will be there? (this cannot be accurately answered for a host of reasons too long to go into here, but suffice to say any club can have a good or a bad night for reasons beyond their control) Questions that may be important to you based on interests should be asked as well, such as... Are singles allowed or is this a couples only party? Are the number of singles admitted, limited/restricted/monitored in anyway? Is bisexuality allowed for women? for men? Are other alternative lifestyles allowed (such as BDSM or crossdressing)? What is the smoking policy? Alcohol policy? Is there any sort of refreshment provided? Are condoms or other latex barriers (gloves, dams) is lube provided? What provisions, if any, have been made for bathing? If bathing facilities are available, will you need to bring soap/shampoo, towels etc..... Have any provisions been made to store personal belongings (like lockers)? Are there overnight accomodations nearby? Where? Have special rates been negotiated? What measures have been taken to ensure my personal safety? what about the safety of my identity? I cannot express strongly enough the need to research the club you wish to attend in advance. Best of luck to you. If I can be of any further assistance let me know.
  5. Then I am guessing that you went to European style clubs. From your response I would say that you find the "towel thing" to be a bit odd. I assure you that I didn't just make it up. It is one of those things where the truth is stranger than fiction (at least to my mind, I run a european style club). Ask around a bit, I think you'll find a great many people who have heard of this.
  6. On-pre-mise clubs come in 2 varieties (and I am not talking about the building type) European style and American style. The "towel" is part of the American Style club culture. Meaning that the rules of the club dictate that to enter the areas where intimacy are allowed you must disrobe, and the towel is the maximum amount of clothing allowed. In some clubs the towel is also used as a surface/barrier on which you can be intimate without the staff having to then come and change linens. Many clubs feel that the mandate to disrobe is an equalizing factor, and many clubgoers like it because you can more effectively "window shop". (From personal experience I will say that, parties in which the attendees start with less clothing do become sexually active quicker.) There are variations on the american style club that do things such as allowing clothing until as certain time and then you must disrobe. Contact the club in advance to find out what there rules/expectations are. European style clubs allow you to remain clothed wherever you would like for as long as you like. A European style club is often less intimidating to newcomers. It sounds like you went to an American style club that happened to be located in Australia. Most likely there is a european style club closer to home.
  7. Ah yes, the quest for the ever so popular Bi-Sexual Single Female...... Here are some of the reasons why you are going to have difficulty finding one..... 1) Guys are looking for single girls. 2) Couples are looking for single girls. 3) Girls are looking for single girls. So, they are "snapped up" very quickly. 4) Most single girls don't frequent sex clubs, because they might be unsafe. 5) Most single girls don't frequent sex clubs, because of the social stigmata of being considered a "slut". 6) Most single girls don't frequent sex clubs, because they can get laid anywhere. So there aren't many to begin with. 7) You may not be attracted to the single girl you find. 8) Your partner may not be attracted to the single girl you find. 9) The girl may not find you attractive. 10) The girl may not find your partner attractive. 11) She might be STRAIGHT. 12) She might be a LESBIAN. Provided you find a single girl, personal chemistry and how you all present yourselves will have a lot to do with it. This doesn't mean you cannot or will not find one ...EVENTUALLY. But you are unlikely to just walk in and there she is, HOT, READY, AND WAITING JUST FOR THE 2 OF YOU! With all of that being said, there are Single Bi-Sexual Women in this lifestyle, most of whom are fabulous people. Best of luck to you and enjoy yourselves and each other no matter what you find or where you are.
  8. I read this to mean that you didn't have sufficient funds to fight them. Did the center really fail because they had money? Or because you didn't? In reality, I am sure that it was a combination of the 2. Which just reinforces one of my earlier points. Make sure you have a lot more liquid capitol than you think you need.
  9. While I love the NCSF. They will only give some basic information. They save most of their effort for legal battles after you are in trouble.
  10. As a club owner, I have to ask why you want to start a club. Had I done my homework properly, I probably wouldn't have (although it did turn out pretty well). As a profession it is not glamorous and with rare exceptions it is not particularly profitable. Carefully examine your motivations before doing this. But with that being said ........... Make sure you have plenty of liquid capitol. Expect to personally lose money for at least 2 years. Do not count on the club making even a fraction of expenses for that time. Clubs grow very slowly. Please, please please, hire an attorney and make sure that he does a thorough job. Be sure you are zoned properly and obtain all of the proper licenses, permits etc.... You would be suprised what requires permits and licenses (vending or cigarette machines, pool tables, hot tubs, Dj's etc... all usually require licenses or permits). Make sure you comply with your licenses at all times and that the licenses that you obtain do not then prevent the club from operating in the manner you wish. EXAMPLE: in Providence, RI you need an entertainment license for a DJ. However, nudity violates the terms for holding an entertainment license. Nudity is allowed with an adult entertainment license, BUT adult entertainment licenses require specific zoning AND 2 adult entertainment licenses cannot be held with 2000 feet of one another. When the city was rezoned, no zone that allowed an adult entertaiment license was big enough to allow for 2000 feet between businesses. Best of luck and welcome to the wacky world of swing club ownership.
  11. This is called lying. I don't recommend it.
  12. Bi-sexuality is not a mandate to have sex with both partners. It merely informs you that the person might be willing. If there is no attraction, there is no attraction. This does not mean that you cannot have strictly heterosexual encounters with bi-sexual persons. Hell, the couples with bi-guys do it all the time.
  13. As a club owner, I am glad to see that some people are outraged that conservative special interest groups have had undue influence. Now however, is the time that you have to do something about it. Most raids fall into 2 categories. 1) lack of licensing or improper zoning 2) drug use/sales In short, clubs get raided because they either break the law or allow their patrons to break the law. Some laws may need to be changed, but generally speaking clubs are founded either as a hobby (and the proper business research is never done) or because "everybody knows sex sells" and someone is trying to make a quick buck without concern for their patrons. To those of you who have seen past posts of mine I apologize for once again getting on this particular soapbox. BUT, please do some research about the legality of the club you choose to patronize. There is no law that says "thou shalt not party" but once someone requires a "donation" or charges admission they are running a business and not holding a party.
  14. Okay, a couple of points to address here... first, going public... Local Law enforcement has made it very clear to me (a club owner) that one of the reasons that what I do is not illegal is that I am a Private Membership Organization. The fact that I have a membership community that beleives that sexual activity is not lewd behaviour is of the utmost importance. What then happens in my club is not legally considered to be lewd conduct because the community agrees that it is not lewd conduct. second, the sexually adventurous public... sounds great, but the public isn't adventurous (particularly here in New England). I spend thousands of dollars each month advertising to the public and quarterly hold an open house (at no expense to the curious, note: there are privacy waivers required). Attendance at an open house is no better than at a regular party and there are few enough additional memberships generated that I may discontinue the practice as it doesn't justify the cost. third, upscale environment... keep looking there are nice places out there that will meet or exceed your expectations. Unfortunately, the profit margin for most clubs is small enough that the owners are unable or unwilling to reinvest in improvements. As far as pricing, at an average of a $15 cover and the $9 per drink cost that you mentioned, after a few drinks for yourself and maybe a round for a few friends you are spending the same amount of money.
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