intuition897 - MOTW # 11

[two4youinswva]

In a recent post, you commented on how you believe when all is said and done, you think we'll have to watch a jumbotron of our lives in front of everyone, showing everything we'd done in life, good and bad.
I found this very interesting, and am wondering how you came to this belief.

You have some great insight, especially on human interaction. So, I'm guessing you've done a lot of reading. So, what does Intuition read?


If you had to live on another continent, where would you go?

[moonbaby_oz]

I am aww stricken, so much growth

[intuition897]

Originally Posted by two4youinswva

In a recent post, you commented on how you believe when all is said and done, you think we'll have to watch a jumbotron of our lives in front of everyone, showing everything we'd done in life, good and bad.
I found this very interesting, and am wondering how you came to this belief.

While I've graduated from believing what I was told, to thinking for myself, there are still some things I've retained from childhood. The suggestion that everyone would eventually know everything about you was from my Mom, who is very religious. Apparently it's a concept from the bible, but don't ask me to quote the exact passage, because I've never seen it to be honest. I have no idea whether or not this notion is biblically based (anyone who knows for certain, please let me know!), but whether it is true or not, I like the idea. It's very scary. Very sobering. I like that I'll be held accountable for the life I've chosen to lead. Having it projected onto an enormous screen for so many people to see was simply the most horrifying way I could imagine my...um...less glorious moments to be portrayed. Of course, it probably won't work that way; I know whe have all of eternity to go through the home movies of every person who ever lived, but come ON! I thought this was supposed to be heaven, not hell! Nah, I think people will just suddenly "see". All that is "you" will be there to read like an open book. No hiding.

Originally Posted by two4youinswva

You have some great insight, especially on human interaction. So, I'm guessing you've done a lot of reading. So, what does Intuition read?

I don't have a lot of time to read, actually. See, when I do settle in with a good book, NOTHING gets done around me. Life stops. Laundry piles up, kids get hungry, the dog needs to go for a walk...The house could burn down around me, and I wouldn't notice. I get pretty lost in a good read. The last 3 books I read were all Stephen King. Mind candy. He's just a really good writer, and I admire his writing style, even though horror isn't exactly my passion. Aside from this, I like reading non-fiction. Particularly about the human psyche, the human body, human history, ancient civilizations, etc. If it demonstrates the human condition and our potential, where we've been and where we're going, I'll read it. Humans are fascinating creatures. I am not WELL read, but I do enjoy what little reading I get to do.

Mr. intuition enjoys reading too. The guy can zip through a book in no time flat. He prefers factual books to fiction. True crime, biographies of successful people, etc. He's currently reading an enormous book on poker strategy (currently a real passion for him).

Originally Posted by two4youinswva

If you had to live on another continent, where would you go?

I don't know. I really like Canada and have lived here all my life, as has Mr. intuition. We'd both want to move somwhere that we'd still have snow at Christmas time. Not to hot nor cold, and preferably no snakes or spiders. At the very least, they must be non-venemous and and spiders can't be those huge ugly hairy things (bleccchhh!! I actually shivered. Now I'll have to check my bed before crawling into it). Europe perhaps. Some parts of Italy look absolutely gorgeous, as well as France. And the history to be studied in that part of the world would be amazing.

[starlinn]

Starlinn <<<<<<<sharpens her pencil

Do you like cotton or silk?


If you had a chance to talk to one person in your past, who would it be and what would you talk about?

Shave or Wax?


What is your favorite desert?


What do you see when you look out the window nearest your computer desk?


Ocean or Mountains?


You said that you like Canada, but have you visited any of the states? If so, which one did you like the best?

If you were having a tea party, who would you invite, and why?


Where is the best place that you have vacationed?

[BodyScape02]

Waht would be your biggest fear in life?

How do you think you would/will handle it if you ever get outed?

How much time does answering mail take ( as opposed to actually swinging?

Would rather have a new couple every week ( or month or whatever) or have a group of freinds that remains the same?

What warning signs do you look for when interviewing playmates?

What is the silliest request you ever recieved ( swinging and/or not)?

[intuition897]

Originally Posted by starlinn

Starlinn <<<<<<<sharpens her pencil

Do you like cotton or silk?

Cotton sheets, silk nighties.

Originally Posted by starlinn

If you had a chance to talk to one person in your past, who would it be and what would you talk about?

Mrs.: My grandfather. He died when I was 12. I'd love us to catch up on all the things he missed, like my wedding, meeting his great-grandchildren, and all that life generally throws at you. And I'd love to hear him play his guitar or his banjo or violin again.

Originally Posted by starlinn

Shave or Wax?

Wax. Definitely. Well, that's my preference, but I don't usually have the patience to allow any of my body hair to grow out long enough before it drives me so crazy I just shave it.

Originally Posted by starlinn

What is your favorite desert?

Ooooh. Tough one. For the Mrs., it's White Chocolate Raspberry Cheesecake with Vanilla Brandy Cream (Let me know if you want the recipe ). For Mr., it's either Blueberry Cheesecake or Blueberry Pie a la mode.

Originally Posted by starlinn

What do you see when you look out the window nearest your computer desk?

Computer is in our bedroom. We see our shabby looking back yard. Every time I look out at it, it get my gears turning and I get visions of flagstone patios complete with outdoor kitchen/grill, gorgeous perennial flowerbeds, inground pool, hot tub, sauna, and a terrific lighting scheme that makes the whole thing look like another room of the house. This is a partial list only

Originally Posted by starlinn

Ocean or Mountains?

See, this is why I need to win the lottery. Hard to decide. Mountains, though, probably. Log home at the foot of the Rockies, covered in snow. It would be nice to own enough acreage to own horses.

Originally Posted by starlinn

You said that you like Canada, but have you visited any of the states? If so, which one did you like the best?

Yes. Mr. has been to Hawaii and said it's beautiful there. I've only ever driven through states on the way to Florida, and when we got there (childhood family vacations) we only stuck to the tourist traps. :rollseyes But I do remember skiing in the Pocono's on one trip, and we North Carolina was pretty nice too. We don't travel much (yet), but we're hoping to get out on a few road trips this year sometime.

Originally Posted by starlinn

If you were having a tea party, who would you invite, and why?

Jesus and a bunch of swingers. THEN we'd get some shit sorted out!

Originally Posted by starlinn

Where is the best place that you have vacationed?

"Vacation"? What's that? Seriously, we haven't had a proper honeymoon yet. It's been 11 years. I'd love to visit Europe (Scotland, Ireland, England...) and the Mediterranean (Greece, Turkey, Italy, France, etc.). Mr. has a yearnin' for the hot sandy beaches of Cancun or thereabouts. I know that doesn't exactly answer your question, but we really don't have much to tell.

[intuition897]

Originally Posted by BodyScape02

Waht would be your biggest fear in life?

You mean aside from the loss of my children? Mr. intuition dying before I do. I don't know what I would do without him. Smaller fears: spiders and snakes. For Mr. intuition, I think his biggest fear is losing his kids. He would never be the same man again.

Originally Posted by BodyScape02

How do you think you would/will handle it if you ever get outed?

Part of me wishes that we could just be done with all this bullshit pussyfooting around about it and just say, "Yeah, we're swingers, and damn proud of it! What's it to ya?!" We remain quiet about it because we don't want to cause anyone else distress about our choices, and I know for a FACT that our families and friends would be greatly distressed. Our kids wouldn't understand it either because they've grown up steeped in the usual traditional style of childrearing that promotes monogamy and the use of loopholes above all else. :rollseyes It's a very difficult pitfall to avoid. And even if they did understand, they're not stupid. They'll see how others react to our lifestyle, others whom they have grown to love, respect and admire. Others who would never steer them wrong...right? So when Auntie or Grandma or Grandpa or Cousin Ethel make their opinions known in front of these children, they listen to them...even though they have no idea what they're talking about! It's a tough spot.

How would we handle it? Probably just focus on reassuring our kids that while, yes, we do have a non-mainstream idea of what a marriage should be, our marriage is very real and intact. We're not going anywhere. We'd also want to let them know that we're very sorry that they have to go through the BS that they will have to, but there's nothing to be done for it. Handled properly, this could be a good example of doing the right thing, even when it's unpopular. It's important.

Originally Posted by BodyScape02

How much time does answering mail take ( as opposed to actually swinging?

We haven't been very active over the past year, but when we are more active in swinging, correspondance takes up about 90% of whatever time we devote to it. Well, correspondance and meeting new couples for dinner/drinks.

Originally Posted by BodyScape02

Would rather have a new couple every week ( or month or whatever) or have a group of freinds that remains the same?

Preferably we'd find a select group of friends - maybe 4-5 couples - that we would play with regularly. It's so much work to find a compatible couple! We're pretty picky, and it's not worth it to lower our standards.

Originally Posted by BodyScape02

What warning signs do you look for when interviewing playmates?

Signs that the couple is into swinging for the wrong reasons: Can't wait to ditch one another for the night, overeager, hesitancy, reluctance, bitterness, shmoozieness (I can't stand ass kissers), or other signs that they aren't communicating well. Other things we can't stand are loud obnoxious drunks, snootiness (We're-better-than-you-itis), liars (this includes people who misrepresent themselves), and just generally those lacking class.

Originally Posted by BodyScape02

What is the silliest request you ever recieved ( swinging and/or not)?

No real horror stories here. We've gotten emails that were...entertaining. For example, some guy wrote me some smutty poetry, outlining all the things he was going to do to me...and then proceeded to tell me that my husband was not welcome on this escapade. :rollseyes Ooooooh-kaaaaaay.... I think we just sent him back an LOL or something.

[Gorgegon]

1 What does the number 897 at the end of your nickname mean?
2 Do you prefer same or separate room full swap ?
3 Since you wrote that your best swinging experience was probably your first full swap, what do you think it needs to happen in order to have a better and better experience each time you swing? Do you think this is possible?
4 What would Mr. Intuition and you be looking for if you wanted to make your next swinging experience the best ever ?
5 You wrote that your husband brought up the subject about swinging to you, and he left you totally confused with the concept and after several discussions with him you agreed to try it. What would you have done if you husband believed in monogamy and never had brought the subject to you?
6 Could you be happy being monogamous or it was a matter of time before you proposed the concept to him?
7 You are a very intelligent women and it seems that swinging has made you think differently about life itself, you have made tons of very valuable contributions to this forum besides of being a long time member. However what other subjects other than swinging do you think can make a radical change in the way you think or live like swinging has done to you?
8 Now an easy one. I read somewhere that you like wine. What kind do you like ?

[WildMiCouple]

Let's see......

What is the most influencial book you've read?

What do you consider your best asset.....both physically and intellectually?

If you could change one thing about yourself.....what would it be?

If you could have one "do over" in your life.....what would it be?

You're stranded on a tropical island with only 5 cd's to listen to.....what are they?

Brett (and Tammy)

[intuition897]

Originally Posted by Gorgegon

1 What does the number 897 at the end of your nickname mean?

It's the number of people we've had sex with. Nah, you knew I was kidding, right? (I hope!) It doesn't mean anything. "intuition" is probably a fairly common nickname. One website we registered on suggested the random numbers '897' after 'intuition' so we just stuck with it. The chances of someone else having the same handle are slim to nil. It just cuts down on having to play 20 Questions with the 'Can You Think of a Nickname Game'.

Originally Posted by Gorgegon

2 Do you prefer same or separate room full swap ?

Depends entirely on the couple. Usually same room, though. We enjoy the visual aspect of it.

Originally Posted by Gorgegon

3 Since you wrote that your best swinging experience was probably your first full swap, what do you think it needs to happen in order to have a better and better experience each time you swing? Do you think this is possible?

Learn to relax more with your own partner. Learn to trust him/her. Once the novelty has worn off (and it will) you'll find that no one else really compares to your partner. You would never choose someone else over them. This is ultimately what monogamy is all about. All we've done is made the Forbidden acceptable, and it so doing, we have removed the mystery of it. There are no bogeymen in the closet, and there are no monsters under the bed. When you discover these things for yourself, instead of listening to someone else try to reassure you (leaving you with that .001% grain of doubt), you begin to understand. You have your proof then. Now that the mystery is gone, I'm sure we will eventually retire from swinging. Not yet, but someday. It is not needed for our relationship to thrive. It never was.

Originally Posted by Gorgegon

4 What would Mr. Intuition and you be looking for if you wanted to make your next swinging experience the best ever ?

Hmmm. Local people. Normal people. People you met at something non-swinging related, such as sharing a table in a crowded restaurant, or meeting them while taking a class together (still trying to get Mr. intuition to take ballroom dancing classes with me ). We would hit it off immediately with them and they would be very interesting to talk to. We would be enjoying our conversation so much that it would seem perfectly natural to go out for a beer or go to one house or the other for a backyard BBQ. We're talking about more than one get-together here. The guys get along great and have lots of guy-talk in common. The girls likewise. Everyone knows there is some unmentioned sexual tension going on. Neither couple is supermodel-hot, but just ordinary folk who are comfortable with their sexuality and know how to use it. During all this conversation, it would become apparent what our hobby is or perhaps things just naturally flow in that direction. In between meetings, there would be plenty of hot sex and fantasizing about 'what if's. Eventually, everyone would become a little more daring with a game of poker-gone-dirty. After we'd had some playtime, we'd hope that things don't get 'weird' and they would remain good friends. It would be so nice to find a few couples who - while not needing to develop friendship first - aren't afraid to commit to real friendship. You know, the kind where if someone's having a rough day, it's not taboo to call one another and vent a little. Friends. You know. Like your other friends you hang out with. The ones you don't have sex with. Like that. Except you have sex with these ones.

Originally Posted by Gorgegon

5 You wrote that your husband brought up the subject about swinging to you, and he left you totally confused with the concept and after several discussions with him you agreed to try it. What would you have done if you husband believed in monogamy and never had brought the subject to you?

We probably would either still be living in ignorance of the wonder of each other, or we would be divorced by now. Our communication skills left much to be desired and resulted in a lot of hurt and loneliness. Swinging was definitely a slap in the face. It was like having ice water dumped over you in your sleep. Reality can be harsh, but I wouldn't trade it for any dream. Not anymore. Nope, our marriage is now as real as it gets, and that's exactly the way I like it.

Originally Posted by Gorgegon

6 Could you be happy being monogamous or it was a matter of time before you proposed the concept to him?

Not entirely sure I understand the question. But yes, I think we'll both eventually gravitate toward sexual monogamy again. Swinging is unnecessary. It's just a nice change of pace now and then.

Originally Posted by Gorgegon

7 You are a very intelligent women and it seems that swinging has made you think differently about life itself, you have made tons of very valuable contributions to this forum besides of being a long time member. However what other subjects other than swinging do you think can make a radical change in the way you think or live like swinging has done to you?

I like to think that swinging was actually just a catalyst. It didn't make us what we are. We did that. I'm just thankful that we tried it, because we found that it forced us to make tough decisions, face reality, and stand up for ourselves.

I think it boils down to simple things: the pursuit of Truth, come what may; The Golden Rule, otherwise known as living an other-centred life, devoted to being of service to mankind and Kindness as a way of life; Bravery, and strength of Conviction; self-accountability; Humility in knowing that we know absolutely nothing. These are simple things. I'm Christian, so the more I examine what is important in this life, the more convinced I am that God exists, and Jesus' teachings were right on track! Swinging is such a small part of life. An afterthought, really. Sex is so unimportant in the grander scheme of things. I think the whole point of life is to live it deliberately and purposefully for the betterment of those who share the world with you. I don't think there is anything that will offer such a profound sense of accomplishment as that.

Originally Posted by Gorgegon

8 Now an easy one. I read somewhere that you like wine. What kind do you like ?

Red. Montepulciano d'Abruzzo, Shiraz (Yellow Tail), and Merlot.

[Jamie&Kieth]

How many kids do you have?

How many pets do you have? What kind?

Ever been to a nudist resort? Would you go to one?

Husband wants to know this ... Do you enjoy hockey? What is your favorite team?

Enjoy reading your posts and like you we prefer to swing only with freinds we know. Out couriousity how do you find people to swing with?

[intuition897]

Let's see......

What is the most influencial book you've read?
Does the Bible count? Although I'm still working up the sticktuitiveness to read the whole thing from cover to cover.

What do you consider your best asset.....both physically and intellectually?
Mrs.: Physically? I have an hourglass figure (big boobs, big butt, relatively small waist) that stays more or less proportionate when my weight fluctuates. Well, except for my recent tendency to put weight on around the middle. Intellectually, I like that I focus on people's potential and positive aspects first and sometimes even have difficulty seeing their negativities.
Mr.: (Mrs. answering for him) Physically, he's got broad shoulders, back and chest (a little weightlifting goes a long way with him) and a great bone structure! Very masculine but not in a neanderthal kind of way. Intellectually, he is an AMAZING problem solver. Natural leader, thinks very logically and analytically, sees "the big picture" to solve problems, and has more integrity than anyone I've ever met.

If you could change one thing about yourself.....what would it be?
Mrs.: My lack of consistency!!! I envy people who develop habits of doing unpleasant tasks (like housecleaning, making kids do their homework, eating the right foods at regular mealtimes, etc.) exactly the same way every single day. I'm just too flighty! Oh, that and I want liposuction.
Mr.: (again, Mrs. answering for him). Nothing. He's perfect.

If you could have one "do over" in your life.....what would it be?
Pass.

You're stranded on a tropical island with only 5 cd's to listen to.....what are they?
Bob Marley and Wailers
Van Halen: OU812
Nat King Cole
Billie Holliday
Enigma

Brett (and Tammy)

[intuition897]

How many kids do you have?
2 kids, 10 (girl) and 8 (boy).
How many pets do you have? What kind?
Dog (Husky/Lab X, 100% pain in the ass) and Cat (more dog than cat, really. Insanely affectionate and needy).
Ever been to a nudist resort? Would you go to one?
Not yet. Yes. Yes we would.
Husband wants to know this ... Do you enjoy hockey? What is your favorite team?
Can you believe it? We live in Canada and don't follow hockey at all!
Enjoy reading your posts and like you we prefer to swing only with freinds we know. Out couriousity how do you find people to swing with?
Usually through swingers websites like SLS or AFF. We enjoy going to off-premises clubs when we have the time/money, but at $200 a pop, it get very expensive very fast. I think our social life will pick up somewhat once our kids are a little more autonomous.

[jennandjamesinm]

Getting my last questions while you are still here on the hot seat

What is the craziest thing you have ever done?
Biggest challenge in your life?
If you were stranded on a deserted island and you could only have 5 foods, (bread and water are givens), what would you have on that deserted island with you?
What attracts you to a couple or a single that you swing with?
Top or Bottom?
Sunrise or Sunset?
Coke or Pepsi?
What advice would you give newbies?
Anything else that you would like to share with us that we haven't asked?
Finally - Have you had fun this week????

[Jamie&Kieth]

Trust me it does