The Status of the Bi Single Male

All of this HIV talk is a cop out. If you were concerned about it so much, you wouldn't be in the lifestyle.

You cannot hide behind AIDS because it is a *proven* fact that you can get HIV from heterosexual contact too.

If you are homophobic, that's okay (it doesn't fit very well with being open minded, as swingers are generally thought of). I don't agree with your phobia, but it's yours.

I don't agree with your attempt to be what you are not however. You are a homophobe, now deal with it. We need to be able to stand up for ourselves in defending swinging to the right side. Your masked phobia can only hurt us because it's not truthful.

[Alura]

Hey, STR8ButVague!

Are you addressing anyone in particular or are you aiming at everyone who has expressed an opinion on this thread?

I have no taste for homosexuality. Do you call me a homophobe for that reason? Phobos means "a fear of." I also wouldn't care to be tied up, tortured or pissed on. Does that mean I suffer from Restrainophobia, Painophobia and Urinophobia?

Perhaps I just don't understand my unbalanced personality.

Mr. Alura

[OhioCouple]

quote:

---

Originally posted by <BiSwinger>:
Nittany,

Great discussion! I'm an open and honest bisexual male too. So don't feel alone out there! My first, and still best, bisexual experiece was with a swinging couple. If you can believe, it was largely initiated by the *woman* who wished to watch us men! I think it'd be nice if the swinging world treated male bisexuality for what it is -- something completely natural, ordinary, acceptable, even commonplace. Lots of statistics show that high percentages of men have experienced some sort of "bisexual" interaction at some point in their lives. Statistically, Bi experience is actually more common for men than for women. I myself never really considered being with BOTH men & women until I started wondering why I wasn't! I thought it might be "wrong" somehow. Rubbish! Turns out to be one of the best things I've ever done.

---

It is very refreshing to see that some men will claim/admit their sexual dreams/fantisies and desires. It is almost like a double standard that women are OK to enjoy themselves together and are encouraged in sexual activity...but for the men it is taboo. IMO, what the heck is the difference between concenting adults! I too want to see my husband having contact with another man, mostly because I think it would be very erotic and resolve many fears of swinging with others of a bi-nature.

Doing so wouldn't take anything away from our relationship. After 2 years of talking about it, he is finally ready to take the first step and I will be there (as I want to be) to guide, enhance and encourage.

He always thought it would make him seem less of a man....and like I said above...double standard. Am I any less of a woman for enjoying both sexes?

Thanks Quinn for bringing this topic up.

L The female half.

[OhioCouple]

quote:

---

Originally posted by <STR8ButOKWithIt>:
All of this HIV talk is a cop out. If you were concerned about it so much, you wouldn't be in the lifestyle.

You cannot hide behind AIDS because it is a *proven* fact that you can get HIV from heterosexual contact too.

.

---

AMEN STR8.....Sorry All, Forgot to add my 2 cents worth on this one. Everytime you encounter anyone male or female for sexual pleasure you run the risk of contracting something. I cannot say that I have not thought of this often. My advice would be to be careful about the people you are choosing and hopefully you will reduce your risk.
In this lifestyle or any other there is always going to be risk whether you utilize protection or not. One only knows for sure the history of thier own sexual background and nothing more..(not even their significant others).

In this lifestyle we have all chosen to take risks in order to enhance our sexual relationships/and or fulfill desires. I know for my husband and myself this is the best thing we have ever participated in. Since we began, our lives are being lived to it's fullest on a daily basis.

L the female half...

[Pleasingu]

I am a bi guy and have not had problems at all with that. I truly believe that everyone has the potential to be bi and homophobia and ego masculinity keeps many men from entering that world. And that is fine because we all need to do what feels right for us.

Because I am a bi guy, the scenes I usually play have been with couples where the woman wants to witness her husband getting orally pleased or whatever by a guy. Many times a video camera is in the scene also. I am ok with this as my partner is a very str8 girl who is not interested in the scene but it ok with me playing. Not the usual scenerio.

Most swinger men will not admit any attraction( non romantic to getting off by another guy. Some swinger couples, I find very naive, as they do NOT realize how often their husbands come to bi guys like us for the satisfaction they cannot explore in the swinger life because of the homophobia. No I do not want swinger clubs to be clubs for gay folks, as I would not want that, but realize people there are MANY OF US who are bi and love the feel of another man as well as women.

Pleasingu

Strange as it may sound in this day and age, seems that Male Bisexuality is the last taboo. The swinging world is woefully behind the times on this, due to some backward thinking and a good amount of ingorance and intolerance on the part of mostly male swing party operators.

Some of the best and most memorable experiences I've enjoyed were with fully bisexual couples where the men could really be free and open up to eroticism between men in the presence of women. All sex is steamy-er if it's bisexual, IMHO.

BTW, I've met a lot of women who informed me that they happened to discover their bisexual sides by going to swingers clubs. One in particular told me about how grateful she is to the club for providing such a safe and supportive setting for her to make this discovery with other like-minded women. I think this is great and is just an example of how the swinging world CAN be open and tolerant if it wants to be... As for bisexual men in swinging, I feel strongly that if women were in the drivers seat, owned and operated clubs, had more power in the swinging world, etc., that we might see more openness and tolerance and acceptance of bisexual men at clubs.

Sincerely,

A formally straight man