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Old 06-20-2003, 01:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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In my humble opinion---
I think there are two reasons why male bi-sexuality is not as prevelent even though we are all on the xx-xy continum

1. Societal-- this is the topic discussed at length above and quite well. I would like to know how an anthropologist would analyze the issue. Me thinks this might date back to the days of the mighty hunter or savage warrior. Then, acting femine might have been life threatening.

2. Medical-- Since the early 1980's aides has put a real cramp into the ability of someone to admit and/or explore their bi-sexuality. The American Red Cross will not allow a male with a history of one sexual encounter with another male since 1977 to donate blood. (I wonder if they mean anal or oral sex). So now men are held back because they do not want to jepordize their primary marital relationship.

But the phobia part is interesting because I truly believe we are all on the continum.... its just that some are willing to explore while others let society hold them back.
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I think it may be a visual thing, for a lot of people, seeing two woman together certainly seems alot more attractive and natural than two men. I really don't know anyone who isn't gay including woman that find the idea of two men together a turn on.
You bring up some very valid points, Everlast. It makes me wonder though, how many women are 'afraid' to bring it up to their male counter parts due to social conditioning?
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I would like to know how an anthropologist would analyze the issue.
I asked one :-) big mistake! LOL

He went on and on about how many primitive cultures did not have the same homosexuality taboo that we do in American society but that almost all societies that are based in Judeo-Christian or Islamic phillosophy maintain that taboo as a function of religion.

We discussed the Kinsey studies and the sexual revolution of the 60's/70's in too great a detail. These, in his opinion, imply that many more men are bisexual or "have had a same sex experience" than are willing to admit.

He also proposes this idea -- "many men engaged in sexual activity as youths that would be called now sexual abuse. In many cases, the perpetrator was a male. These men never discussed those experiences with anyone for fear of being thought to be homosexual and they do not now discuss those experiences with any out of either shame or the same fear of being labeled" -- he did say that this was nothing more than a hypothesis of his and that he has not done any research to substantiate the idea. I find this idea interesting to ponder.

His opinion is that the overwhelming issue today is the social one -- even if his partner is comfortable with his sexual desires, a man knows that society in general will not approve. Since most people seek social approval in their actions, they elect to either not explore bisexuality as a potential lifestyle or, they keep it a secret.

It seems that anthropologist Evelyn Blackwood is/was the authority on this topic and that her writings are still in print.

Ok, I'm curious enough now to hunt on half.com for some of her work
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Default Its not 'profitable' to be bisexual if you're a man

While logic would say that a bisexual man would have double the chances for encounters, its not the case.

Back in my musician days, there were plenty of drag queens with the groupies and, at first, we saw them the same way we did the women...as available. We had sex with them and sent them away the next morning. It was interesting, but after ten or fifteen minutes I was looking for an available woman. Many times, the women left if we even look at the drag queens, so we stopped picking them up except as a last resort. Two of the guys should have stopped sooner, but thats another story.

In short, bi men actually have fewer chances for sex than straight men, because people in our society like roles. Bisexuality, especially among men, smashes those roles, and that makes many people uncomfortable. And if you are uncomfortable, you don't want to have sex unless its to get the other person to leave.
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Good post. I agree with Kinsey, it's very difficult to 'come out' as even 'bi-curious' because of the strong negative reaction of society to such revelations. Even within the fairly open-minded swinging community there is bias against bi-sexual men.

So, will I ever get to explore that aspect of my sexuality? I don’t know (and honestly, it’s not a burning desire of mine), but if I do it won’t be because I’ve gone out looking for such an encounter. It will likely result from an established relationship in which myself and the other fellow have a mutual interest and enough comfort with each other to explore it.

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