What do swinging females think of male BI

Flori_DAMAN · 03-16-2003, 05:17 PM

I am curious as to how the members really feel about this.

John

curious24 · 03-16-2003, 06:54 PM

very interesting thread...

john you come up with some of the most interesting posts i think i've ever read.. heh

Flori_DAMAN · 03-16-2003, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by curious24
very interesting thread...

john you come up with some of the most interesting posts i think i've ever read.. heh

lol Curious,

Thanks for the compliment.

Some see it differently.

John (who is trying SOOO hard to avoid that war thread).

Ashley · 03-18-2003, 01:04 AM

Once at a swing club I jokingly suggested that my bf kiss the male half of the couple we were swinging with....I will never forget the look on his face...lol. Basically, he would never go there and I think that is pretty typical in the swinging community...the men tend to be strictly het while they appreciate bisexuality in their women....good ole double standard.

babydragon · 03-18-2003, 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by Ashley
good ole double standard.

Havn't you noticed in so many adult movies, the FF action is a must but the major lack of MM action is kinda the norm

I guess the idea for most straight men is "I am a batter not a catcher". But then again I notice a lot of men dont mind a girls finger popping in for a visit

OhioCouple · 03-18-2003, 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by Ashley
I will never forget the look on his face...lol.

OMGoodness....ROFL!!! I would have loved to been a fly on the wall that night! I think if I were to say something like that to my husband in the heat of the moment....it would be automatic 'deflation'....party over! ROFL!!!

On the other hand if you really don't care for the couple you are with....could be an easy way out of a sticky situation! ROFL!

Lori

Brit_Pair · 03-22-2003, 11:00 AM

From Mrs Brit:

I wouldn't want him to go there (the very idea flips my stomach). I don't think he'd want to go there if I did though!

imsnowman · 03-22-2003, 02:07 PM

From Mrs. Snowman,
The right choice wasn't really there so here's an explanation. Kind of interesting that 80% of the 25 votes are "for" some kind of interaction. You'd think from all the discussions and ads that it was almost verbotten.
I fantasize about it and I'm sure that Mr. Snowman would go there in the right situation but I'm not sure I want to fulfill the fantasy. Confusing enough?

naughty A · 03-22-2003, 02:29 PM

ok I may be off base but my understanding is that a lot of the homophobia has to do with the promiscuity and lack of discrimination of bi males - health risk.

My husband is another one of those extreme het's but no longer has the urge to punch someone's lights out when the subject arrises. lol. now a simple - we're leaving signal is enough. He says its not the just the health risk - the idea is enough to gross him out.

I see a lot of polls that say bi-male fantasy etc is some high percentage but I don't think there are that many in the club scene anyway.

love that batter and catcher reference.

Naughty A.

Flori_DAMAN · 03-22-2003, 03:01 PM

The polls are coming out to just about what I figured they would. My predictions were just from observing the comments, some of which surprised me, from board contributors.

The people on this board represent a group of very open-minded breed of swingers. They seem much more mature, and less hedonistic or narcissitic as so many club atendees seem to be.
Thanks for the participation and great comments from everyone. At the least the results are entertaining.

John.

Brit_Pair · 03-23-2003, 05:45 AM

The question has been asked elsewhere on these boards (example) as to why women and men seem to be different when it comes to confronting and exploring their own (potential) bisexuality. Perhaps it owes something (even a great deal) to the issue of ego.

Is a woman’s self-image less threatened by the prospect of having (and enjoying) sex with another woman? Is that why we generally seem to find the idea of two women together easier to deal with than the idea of two men?

Flori_DAMAN · 03-23-2003, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Brit_Pair
The question has been asked elsewhere on these boards (example) as to why women and men seem to be different when it comes to confronting and exploring their own (potential) bisexuality. Perhaps it owes something (even a great deal) to the issue of ego.

Is a woman’s self-image less threatened by the prospect of having (and enjoying) sex with another woman? Is that why we generally seem to find the idea of two women together easier to deal with than the idea of two men?

I wonder if it is ego. I think that if you polled people in general the results would be way different. Overwhelmingly the non-swinging oriented community would abhor even the thought of male bi-sexuality. This is pretty well documented. Considering this is an expression of strictly swingers, what do you think the implications are amongst strictly swingers?

I also wonder what the results would be at a real life as opposed to online swinging oriented community. My experiences have been that male bi-sexuality is VERY frowned upon at most clubs.

John

Brit_Pair · 03-23-2003, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Flori_DAMAN
I wonder if it is ego. I think that if you polled people in general the results would be way different. Overwhelmingly the non-swinging oriented community would abhor even the thought of male bi-sexuality. This is pretty well documented. Considering this is an expression of strictly swingers, what do you think the implications are amongst strictly swingers?

Fair point.

Consider this though. If a woman has sex with another woman, is her femininity (in her own mind) threatened in anyway? As a lay person and non-sexual psychologist, it doesn't seem so to me, generally speaking. But is the same true for the average man's feelings about his own masculinity, if he were to engage in either the fantasy or reality of having sex with another man?

Obviously, there are men out there who do not feel their masculinity is compromised in anyway by their homosexuality or bisexuality. But I'd guess that there are those out there who feel conflicted by their feelings of desire, and their need to preserve what they consider to be the stereotypical image of maleness. And - adding one more thought to the pyramid - perhaps those women who find the idea of two men together a turn-off do so because they also identify their partner's masculinity very closely to his sexual orientation.

Just idle musings.

Flori_DAMAN · 03-23-2003, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by Brit_Pair
And - adding one more thought to the pyramid - perhaps those women who find the idea of two men together a turn-off do so because they also identify their partner's masculinity very closely to his sexual orientation.

Just idle musings.

Gawd I love it when you talk like that! It arouses me.

I think that explains the "I want it but he won't go there" vote.

You sexy psychoshrinker you.

john

a_couple_in_pa · 03-27-2003, 10:00 AM

I think the main thing (in my non expert opinion) is that homosexuality is thought of as being feminine. Wether it be m-m or f-f. Men don't like to be thought of as feminine, so the whole concept is a problem. Whereas, woman are expected to be feminine, so f-f interaction makes them even more feminine.

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View Poll Results: Females> how do you feel about male bi-sex.
I would love for my partner to try it once.	76	40.64%
I fantasize about it but know he won't go there.	28	14.97%
I find the idea disgusting.	49	26.20%
We enjoy it at least occasionally	34	18.18%
Voters: 187. You may not vote on this poll

03-16-2003, 05:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Flori_DAMAN Previously of MichiganCouple Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,100 Location: Vero Beach Florida Status: Single Male	What do swinging females think of male BI I am curious as to how the members really feel about this. John

03-22-2003, 02:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
imsnowman Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 429 Location: TX Status: couple	From Mrs. Snowman, The right choice wasn't really there so here's an explanation. Kind of interesting that 80% of the 25 votes are "for" some kind of interaction. You'd think from all the discussions and ads that it was almost verbotten. I fantasize about it and I'm sure that Mr. Snowman would go there in the right situation but I'm not sure I want to fulfill the fantasy. Confusing enough? Last edited by imsnowman : 03-22-2003 at 02:11 PM.

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03-16-2003, 06:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
curious24 Swingers Board Addict Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 696 Location: austin, tx Status: Single Male	very interesting thread... john you come up with some of the most interesting posts i think i've ever read.. heh

03-18-2003, 01:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ashley Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 207 Location: Arizona Status: Couple	Once at a swing club I jokingly suggested that my bf kiss the male half of the couple we were swinging with....I will never forget the look on his face...lol. Basically, he would never go there and I think that is pretty typical in the swinging community...the men tend to be strictly het while they appreciate bisexuality in their women....good ole double standard.

03-22-2003, 11:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
Brit_Pair Retired Mod Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,635 Location: UK Status: Couple	From Mrs Brit: I wouldn't want him to go there (the very idea flips my stomach). I don't think he'd want to go there if I did though!

03-22-2003, 02:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
naughty A Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 997 Location: windsor ontario Status: couple - female half	ok I may be off base but my understanding is that a lot of the homophobia has to do with the promiscuity and lack of discrimination of bi males - health risk. My husband is another one of those extreme het's but no longer has the urge to punch someone's lights out when the subject arrises. lol. now a simple - we're leaving signal is enough. He says its not the just the health risk - the idea is enough to gross him out. I see a lot of polls that say bi-male fantasy etc is some high percentage but I don't think there are that many in the club scene anyway. love that batter and catcher reference. Naughty A.

03-22-2003, 03:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Flori_DAMAN Previously of MichiganCouple Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,100 Location: Vero Beach Florida Status: Single Male	The polls are coming out to just about what I figured they would. My predictions were just from observing the comments, some of which surprised me, from board contributors. The people on this board represent a group of very open-minded breed of swingers. They seem much more mature, and less hedonistic or narcissitic as so many club atendees seem to be. Thanks for the participation and great comments from everyone. At the least the results are entertaining. John.

03-23-2003, 05:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
Brit_Pair Retired Mod Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,635 Location: UK Status: Couple	The question has been asked elsewhere on these boards (example) as to why women and men seem to be different when it comes to confronting and exploring their own (potential) bisexuality. Perhaps it owes something (even a great deal) to the issue of ego. Is a woman’s self-image less threatened by the prospect of having (and enjoying) sex with another woman? Is that why we generally seem to find the idea of two women together easier to deal with than the idea of two men?

03-27-2003, 10:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
a_couple_in_pa Here to Stay Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 37 Location: Allentown PA Status: Couple	I think the main thing (in my non expert opinion) is that homosexuality is thought of as being feminine. Wether it be m-m or f-f. Men don't like to be thought of as feminine, so the whole concept is a problem. Whereas, woman are expected to be feminine, so f-f interaction makes them even more feminine.