What do swinging females think of male BI

[curious24]

Originally posted by a_couple_in_pa
I think the main thing (in my non expert opinion) is that homosexuality is thought of as being feminine. Wether it be m-m or f-f. Men don't like to be thought of as feminine, so the whole concept is a problem. Whereas, woman are expected to be feminine, so f-f interaction makes them even more feminine.

funny that's exactly what i was thinking.. just could never say as well as you did

[LadyCleo]

I get really turned on by the thought of another man giving my husband a BJ and the thought of watching my husband give one.

That being said, sometimes it's better for it to remain a figment of your imagination. We haven't done it yet and I don't know if we ever will.

Although, I have a dildo that can be inserted both ways. He put the base deep inside me and performed an oral show on the end that looks more penis shaped. NOW THAT WAS HOT! I can't wait for him to do it again! Every stroke I felt deep inside, every movement. I HIGHLY recommend trying that one!

LC

[Mike and Jan]

Now i really don't feel that male/male interaction during a threesome, or even some male/male experimentation between friends is feminine at all. I think that swinging is a way of experiencing those sexual pleasures that just can't be achieved with just a couple. After years of exploring each other and all of the wonderful things two poeple in love can do sexually there comes a time when you just want more. So you consider adding another person or couple. In a FMF threesome if the 'other' lady was solely for 'his' pleasure I think the wife would feel a bit like she was being conned into simply allowing her hubby to get some some strange. And, if that turns her on then fine. But to also allow her to explore the woman adds the element of sharing this new experience together as a couple. I think the same should hold true for MFM threesomes. Plus there are some sensory things that would require M/M interaction in my fantasies. I'd want to watch my wife receiving the pleasure just like a lot of husbands. But, I'd want to watch very closely, touch, taste, and be part of that intercourse. And, I don't think I'd want to let any of those sexual juices go to waste either. And I'd also want to experience the feeling of hands, lips, and a tongue on us while we have our intercourse afterwards.

[Chicup]

For once I'd like to see a poll here with options that are not biased from the start

The only negative option is if you find it disgusting (which my wife does) but I'm sure there are people who wouldn't be disgusted but still have no desire to do it.

[velbuzz]

Interesting post about the m-m is feminime and is thus harder than a f-f emphasizing the femininity.

Makes me wonder...

With males XY and females XX one would think the XY would be more likely to be bi.

Good project for a grad student, don't you think.

[Chicup]

Originally posted by velbuzz
With males XY and females XX one would think the XY would be more likely to be bi.

Good project for a grad student, don't you think.

Not if you understand gene expression.

Females are XX but only one X is expressed per cell.

Males have only one X and that same X is expressed in all cells.

This is why males have a harder time with mutations in the X chromosome, but thats another story.

The 'default' body type is female. Some XY's will end up looking female, but no XX's will ever end up looking male (unless there is a crossover from the Y to the X)...

Ok TMI, but no it wouldn't make a good project for a grad student

[Bedmates]

Originally posted by a_couple_in_pa
I think the main thing (in my non expert opinion) is that homosexuality is thought of as being feminine. Wether it be m-m or f-f. Men don't like to be thought of as feminine, so the whole concept is a problem. Whereas, woman are expected to be feminine, so f-f interaction makes them even more feminine.

What an interesting position! I have to agree to your point about feminism. I think that it has to do with the macho part of the male. Getting "stabbed from behind" could register in the male mind as being submissive and not masculine. I think few "real" men would be able to let themselves go to enjoy the physical-only pleasure of it.

How do we feel? Well, she's against any type of male-male interaction. He would like to 69 with her to her orgasm while another man is in there, but that would necessitate some closeness and probably contact of some sort. He's not afraid, but she thinks she'd rather have a female do the licking since the thought of m-m contact in NOT considered a turn on in ANY form.

[Flori_DAMAN]

What a fascinating thread. Between Bedmates, Velbuzz, chicup and Mike and Jan, my thoughts on homosexuality are actually changing. It is so nice of you to share that level.

J

[alabamafuntonig]

could it be the world view of bisexual men have been that they posses the gay gene and rather hide there true convictions behind the facade of a heterosexual lifestyle...hum "i think not'
bi men like women do enjoy the best from both worlds ..and besides when it comes to swinging what makes it right to swap patners or have bi f if a bi man canot enjoy the same pleasurs...
i think i see a double standerd amoungst some of the regulars......

[Handyman69]

Nice to see you back John, When-ever we decide to include a single male I hope you are available.........really missed your views on things.

John

[Scott_n_Ann6877]

This is an interesting thread. Hope it is OK if I post from just my point of view here. I've given this one a great deal of thought. Back in college I hung out in a gay bar. I saw a lot of MM action and it was not as soft and feminine as it is with FF. From my point of view, when two women are kissing and cuddling, it is very feminine. It is not so much about the sex as the intimacy. What I saw with the men was harder. They were rougher kissers and the energy they gave off was about getting down to the deed. Maybe this is more my personal feelings being projected onto what I'm seeing.

After reading through this thread I thought about my current relationship and why I do not want to see him with another man. If he is soft and sensual with me, would he not be like this with another man? Probably so. But I just can't see that. I think I don't want to see that because that contradicts my definition of what masculine is all about. Thanks for pointing this out in this thread. It has helped me understand my thinking on this more. So if he is with a man and is all soft and sensual, that takes away from his masculinity. I guess that is what is going through my head. And I don't like that kind of thinking. So I have to work to change that thinking.

This has been an interesting thread. It has given me food for thought. Thanks for allowing me to help sort out my feelings and thoughts on this topic.

Ann

[WesternSwing]

Answering for my wife here... I have not really had the interest in going there, but we have discussed the "what if" scenarios and she is open minded to it. Basically she feels that if I wanted to try it than go ahead. She's a great woman.

Mr. WS

[LIZA]

i find it erotic......glad to see more people agreeing with me, hopefuly that double standard is fading away FINALLY

My husband just isnt into it tho and i have to respect that

[crestviewcpl2]

IMHO people who are secure with their sexuality do not see a little playing as a threat. I'm so straight it isn't funny but if a girl touched me I'm not going to become Bi, its just attraction isn't there. I don't find females attractive sexually BUT being heterosexual I do find males VERY sexy and so I can understand a man wanting to play around with a man much more easily. I'm totally open to the guy thing from my side of it, mostly oral but not so much full all out sex plus I know its a lot different from what I have to offer and I feel absolutely no threat. With a girl, she's got what I got and I'm afraid the insecurity would be there that what she's got is better. I like the idea of bi males. thanks for the post.

[St. Augustine]

John

As always you do raise some very thought provocative questions. This is my 1st day back here in almost a year... been going through some rough times here, but things are straightening out now... so we're back to share and openly respond.

Well, all I can say to respond to this question is to share our first couple experience with all of you.

Last Saturday, Mike and I went to a Swing Club in Jacksonville.. is was an amazing experience. At the end of the party we decided to rent a room and spend the night there and join the party that happens after hours.

A really nice couple joined us in our room and I had my first experience with making love to and being made love to by a woman. Her husband wanted to play with Mike and he consented. As I had the pleasure of his wife going down on me, I watched as Mike gave her husband oral sex. Then watched as her husband gave Mike oral sex. I have to be really honest here and admit to all of you that it was a major turn-on for me to watch this as I was being pleasured. I had never thought that I would feel this way. There were no feelings of homosexuality there at all. This was all about sexual experiences you have secret thoughts and desires about and actually giving in to them.

It was a truly amazing night for both of us and our lovemaking has been pretty hot and intense since.

We had exchanged phone numbers with this couple and spoke to them last night and we are getting together at their house this next weekend. I have no idea what to expect from this evening, but Mike and I have talked it over and we have come up with signals, that if either of us are uncomfortable in any way to let the other person know.

Having actually experienced this, I can honestly say that there was nothing at all disgusting about it. It was just about a sensual experience we shared with each other and another couple. I will not hesitate to be involved in another couple experience again and Mike feels the same.

When we discussed joining the Lifestyle, Mike was very strong in stating that having sexual encounters with a woman for a 3some was fine, but he wasn't sure about couples or a 3some with another man. He no longer feels this way. He enjoyed the experience and is willing to experience it again.

Cathy