"So let us begin anew - remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness” JFK
A couple of our gay friends give the "Eewwwww!" response when straight sex is mentioned. We get a little giggle out of it. Another of our gay friends told us about the time he woke up to a female friend (Who knew he was gay) giving him a BJ. The freak out he experienced and told us about didn't offend us.
To me it's the same as finding a certain type of food disgusting when certain other people like it. Raspberries for instance. How do you people eat those nasty things?
What do you get the man that has everything?
Nothing. Fuck that guy.
I wonder if the sensitivity over this is slowly turning into an identity issue. I am a guy who is straight, not a "straight man". That's a subtle difference, but I dont define myself by the fact that I am straight. Do many gay men and women define themselves as a "gay man" and "gay woman"? The folks I know seem to define themselves that way and it seems like it would lead to being more sensitive when someone discusses something impacting how you primarily define yourself.
Just wondering aloud.
I think it's more about what people find revolting and why.
I don't find consensual sexuality revolting no matter the gender or combination of genders. Male/male is not revolting, obese, elderly, male/female, female/female, jerking or jilling off. Warm, hot, passionate, truly and magnificently consensual sex simply is not revolting
Why someone finds sex revolting has to do with the revolted person and his hangups rather than with sex or those having sex.
Truly revolting are those who hurt others, molest others, kill others.
Big Nikki here.
We can all, if we chose, to be decent about things we don't agree with, but are willing to accept as public values.
But when you're revolted -- it's a lot to ask for people to put their revulsion behind them.
John and I are quite gay-friendly. (Well we should be, since we're both bi- and both more queer than straight.) But I don't demonize people who are revolted by the idea of gay sex; mostly, they're built that way, rather than chose to be that way.
-- Big Nikki.
I'm not orthogonal, but I am oblique
OK, I have been watching people post into this thread on-and-off for five years. Time for me to weigh in. Swinging does not have to be anything. It simply is what it is. And, incidentally, it is not an industry.