mfm issues

[ryan]

Are there general rules in straight mfm in what most would consider bi or straight.

For instance, vaginal dp. The idea is to please the woman, but it involves male-male contact, even though that's not the motive.

Or, similarly, cunnilingus when the other male is
having intercourse.

Would most straight males in mfm think of these as acceptable or not...

[frisson]

I (M half, straight) have done a few DPs but always with guys I knew and felt comfortable with. I would say that DPs are fairly common among couples who know each other well.

We have never seen cunnilingus done by a man while another male was having intercourse with the woman. I think that's getting awfully close to the line.

Incidentally, we both love to have a woman eat our F half while we are fucking. In fact, it's one of her two biggest turnons. However, she is not interested (she says) in having another man eat her while she is having intercourse, because she's not all that comfortable with male bisexuality.

[Quin]

Incidentally, we both love to have a woman eat our F half while we are fucking. In fact, it's one of her two biggest turnons. However, she is not interested (she says) in having another man eat her while she is having intercourse, because she's not all that comfortable with male bisexuality.

Okay I gotta ask...just want constitutes a male being bi-sexual if he is performing oral on a woman while she is also involved in intercourse with another male. I have been involved in this particular situation many times with men who are the epitomy of men, homophobia and all. They most certainly weren't bi-sexual. And to be truthful, I don't remember if there was any *accidental* meeting between cock and tongue as I was just too into it to notice...but I'm feel confident that if there had been, the male giving the oral would have retracted and ceased.

I have also been involved in the same situation only with fmf and when I have been the one performing oral on the woman while the man is having inter...oh my I'm trying to make this all nicey nice...I've been the one licking clit while the woman was getting screwed by a guy and while my interaction with the male's cock was intentional, I do see how any contact could be avoided between tongue and cock especially with certain positions.

Quin

[frisson]

Okay I gotta ask...just want constitutes a male being bi-sexual if he is performing oral on a woman while she is also involved in intercourse with another male.

OK, I brought this question to her just now. She responds:

"It just seems to me that a guy who would be comfortable doing this probably is bisexual....(beat)...On the other hand, it might be interesting, so I guess I wouldn't mind if you didn't."

[dave_susie2001]

Lots of topics that this could relate to. From personal experience, I relate to the "How has swinging evolved" topic.

When Susie and First started swinging, I remember buying douches for her to use after another guy had sex with her. I wanted to make sure she was "clean" before I touched her again. Now, I know that was all mental, because how could I know if the other woman had had sex with her husband recently before with me? LOL

I remember thinking that I didnt' want to kiss Susie after she gave head to another man. Sucking dick by proxy? Homophobic? Who knows.

Now....yes we have evolved to the point that not only will I kiss Susie after she has given another man head, I have no problem with eating her after she has had sex. Of course, it tastes a little like rubber! For those couples that we know well and play with on a regular basis, we still don't allow the exchange of bodily fluids (cumming inside) so eating her then is fine as well. Believe it or not, the idea of eating pussy after someone cums inside does not gross me out. It does not turn me on either...I've eaten Susie after I have cum inside her, and I just don't like the taste of semen. And before I get a thrashing by the women out there...I don't expect anyone I'm with to let me cum in thier mouths either!

I guess What I'm saying is that everyone has thier own limits and boundaries. I am by no means bisexual. The thought of touching a man's genitals for pleasure does nothing for me. By the same token, I am secure enough in my own manhood not to be afraid of incidental contact either.

[Brian and Jo]

We have had many MFM threesomes during which the other guy has fucked Jo while I sucked on her clit or vice versa. She finds this incredibly exciting and always has a very intense orgasm. I have also had manual and oral contact with other guys while our wives watched us. I have always regarded myself as an open-minded straight sort of a guy but I recognize that others would describe me as bisexual or at least bi-curious. All the contacts I have had with other men have been at parties where several couples were present, never just another man and I alone.

Brian

[TeamSoBe]

We both openly consider ourselves bisexual and life is really just simpler this way. We have had some great MFM experiences that would not be possible for homophobic swingers.

[Uriah]

I am a single male who likes to make women happy, and primarily swing with married couples. On two occasions, a lady has asked to watch hubby and me in a mutual oral, which I gladly performed. Frankly, I think I give a pretty good BJ.

I do not consider myself bisexual at all. I can't speak for the other male, but I'll bet he doesn't either. We are all just having a good time, and primarily concening ourselves with the lady's pleasure.

Being cognizant that this may be a controversial belief, I label myself as "bi-curious".

[munchersRus]

My husband and I are both bi, me naturally, him, a learned trait. We're aware that many people continue to cling to meaningless stereotypes, but we do think bi is the natural state of the human being. Much of our swinging experiences have revolved around my husband and another male(s) testing the limits of my orgasmic abilities, and I feel qualified to offer my opinion on this subject.

Come on guys! 99.9% of the married men I've met in the lifestyle want nothing more than their wives to be bisexual. You all assume that we don't also want you to be bi? No every couple thing, but you'd be surprised. My husband and I perform fellatio and cunnilingus together on a willing partner, and we consider it a sharing experience. I like to see my husband with a cock in his mouth, fresh from my kiss. We share it....Yes, he goes down on me when I'm with another male, and if we're fortunate enough to find a male partner we can enjoy sans latex, then he'll eagerly clean me, and we share that too.....That's our thing....sharing. Just my thoughts on the subject.....smiles....luv ya!

[Quin]

Originally posted by TeamSoBe:
We both openly consider ourselves bisexual and life is really just simpler this way. We have had some great MFM experiences that would not be possible for homophobic swingers.

Why is it that if some guy doesn't desire another man, has no urge to touch another man, suck another man's cock, he's homophobic? Said guy isn't afraid of homosexuals, he just isn't turned on by another guy...what is so hard about this that people just don't get it? I'm not turned on by morbidly obese people...does that make me fat-phobic? No. I don't fear these people, they don't intimidate me. So why must a man be automatically thought homophobic just because he doesn't desire another man??

Quin

[imsnowman]

In my experience (Male) most other men I've meet express "fear" of gay men. And fear of touching another man except in the most innocent of ways. Backslapping etc. Except perhaps in times of grief support etc. That's homophobia in my NH opinion.
Maybe your experience is different Quin.

[bicouplesocal]

Bi sexuality is really the norm if you think about it. One of the reasons why men and women swing is because they enjoy watching members of their same sex having sex with their mates. Women check out the other womens bodies and physical reactions to their experiences with their mates, and men like to see their wives or parners being seviced by other mens lips, tongues, fingers , hands, and cocks. Don't tell me that a so called straight male doesn't get turned on by a rock hard cock moving in and out of his mates pussy or mouth. I certainly do, and have had the pleasure of being with other men on more than one occasion. There's an old adage that no one knows how to do you better than your own kind, and that goes for both male and female. This doesn't lessen the passion, love, and eroticism that you can still have for the opposite sex; it just broadens the horizons. When, as a man, you allow yourself to experience the strength and power that women feel when their with men, it's really hot, sometimes physically exhausting to the point of uncontrollable trembling. And as for women, damn, is there anything hotter than watching two women really getting it on.
Guys, get over your hangups. Explore the possibilities.

"Why is it that if some guy doesn't desire another man, has no urge to touch another man, suck another man's cock, he's homophobic? Said guy isn't afraid of homosexuals, he just isn't turned on by another guy...what is so hard about this that people just don't get it? I'm not turned on by morbidly obese people...does that make me fat-phobic? No. I don't fear these people, they don't intimidate me. So why must a man be automatically thought homophobic just because he doesn't desire another man??"

Have to go with Quin on this one. Regardless if the male is "repulsed" or simply "not interested" it does make him fearful or homophobic. Once we were in a bed with two other couples and as I was doing 69 with one girl, I reached over and "thought" I was stroking one of the other girls leg & ass. Guess what? They had changed positions and he is virtually hairless*LOL*. Yes I caught some good natured ribbing later but no one was upset or thought that I menat anything by it. On the flip side, we would not even consider playing if a couple has a bi male. It is not a fear, just not for us.

PS-I love the veiw from the bottom half of 69 but it certainly hinders your perephial vision

[invictus]

Not sure how I was "just visiting" in that last post?