Threesomes, and Christian views regarding threesomes?

[sailships]

I was searching the board here for posts relating to religion, Biblical verses, etc as it might apply to swinging. Or more directly, FMF threesomes.

My girlfriend and I have talked about threesomes before, and also consider ourselves Christians, but are curious about the Christian implications of a threesome.

Can anyone help? Direct us to any resources, other threads, etc?

Many thanks!

[Coupleerotic22]

In the end it is up to you to make peace with it. Biblical versus can be interpreted to say different things to different people. In the end your relationship with God is what you should rely on.

Here is one site that is pro swinging:
Liberated Christians Polyamory, Swing, Biblical, Sybian Cyber Center

And one site that is pro sex but anti swinging.
Interview with Ex-Swingers: Seeing God’s Redemption ~ Part One Christian Nymphos

I gave two different views so you could see arguments for both sides.

We are swingers and Christians and have a relationship with Christ, we know we live in a state of grace and feel comfortable that we are good with God. Each person has to find their own peace.

Good luck and God bless.

[BigNikki]

Big Nikki here.

We've discussed swinging and Christianity before in other threads, but you've got to admit that threesomes and more complicated stuff are a touch trickier.

No jokes permitted here about threesomes and The Trinity.

My family practices three religions and you could say John and I are lapsed in all three. But we live in their shadow.

I can square our swinging with all three, but I'm not a theologian or tight with any teaching.

For me Christianity and the other two religions ask this: For everyone, they ask us to live morally; for those who can, they ask us to be spiritual.

For me, the only thing religion demands of my swinging is no cruelty. Or if you will, the Hippocratic Oath: first, do no harm.

-- Big Nikki.

[lardub]

We have a boytoy who we tend to see on Sunday afternoons after he attends church, we have never judged him for his involvement with his church which he is very involved as he has been busy due to church business. We at onetime were very involved with a church even sat on council for a number of years and a number of other volunteer positions, but the hypocrisy we found was much to difficult to ignore any longer. The constant put downs for people who didn't follow the teachings of the bible and the gossip circle, as well as the persistence to insist that Christianity was the one and only truth, despite the fact that all christian denominations consist of pagan rituals that predate Christ and are simply made up by the roman emperor Constantine and a number of popes and others in order to appease people into following this religion.
A bit harsh for me to say but in studying religion most of my life and understanding history and what transpired within the RC church in its early infancy through to modern day it would be rather difficult for me to remain in a church and to continue the hypocrisy.
As for your dealing with swinging or threesomes many popes in the early years had wives, engaged in sex with males and females and orgies and are now saints so my guess is yes it is allowed

check out this link.. List of sexually active popes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[BigNikki]

Big Nikki here.

I don't think I've ever mentioned on this Board that my John was a monk for a few years before we were introduced to marry. He doesn't tell me much about it, but it's never caused any conflict with our swinging.

Those years, though, delayed my passion for him.

-- Big Nikki

[Chicup]

My personal take has always been there is a lot of sophistry among swingers trying to justify swinging from some sort of Christian perspective. You aren't going to find it convincingly. You need to make up your own minds on 'wrongness' and be comfortable in what you do rather than try to find someone elses interpretation that gives you the green light and absolves you of thinking about it.

[lotsoffun201]

Don't even get me started on Christians and swinging......Mrs was and still is a very religious person. She says...."the marriage bed is undefiled" meaning whatever a married couple bring to the bedroom is sacred. Not sure that applies as originally intended but is sure sounds good. She has been receiving nothing but grief over the past few days from her holier than thou Christian friends on facebook to the point of tears.

I posted this on a similar thread only a few days ago. Frankly I heard and read all I could on FB regarding that and I just committed facebook "suicide"
Maybe my profile will rise from the dead sometime in the future, but not right now. I have heard enough. I would rather stick to these sites....At least we aren't judged

[Alura]

I follow my uncle's teachings about Father Sky and Mother Earth. I don't have to make any excuses.

Alura

[BigNikki]

Big Nikki here.

Originally Posted by Alura

I follow my uncle's teachings about Father Sky and Mother Earth

That's a Hail Mary pass of The Third Kind; the best kind.

-- Big Nikki

[bbarnsworth]

Originally Posted by Coupleerotic22

In the end it is up to you to make peace with it.

The best advice.

For anything you do in life, chances are you can find a religion somewhere that holds beliefs that say you're doing it wrong. There's no possible way to achieve salvation via all religions, all religious texts. In the end, it's up to you to decide what is most important to your spirituality, what tracks most with what your own belief system is.

My wife and I are both practicing Christians. We had considerable discussion regarding swinging and religion. We were able to quite comfortably square Christianity with swinging.

Here's a point of discussion for you and your partner; Adultery doesn't mean what you think it means. Adultery doesn't mean sex outside of marriage, or sex with someone who is married (but not your spouse). The term has changed in definition over the centuries through many translations and changes in nature of how it is used in the societies where the term has been used. Think; "Gay" a hundred years ago meant happy. Now, it means homosexual. So, if there were a passage that said "Thou shall be gay before the Lord", it's meaning a hundred years ago vs. today would rather dramatically change.

If you look at what Jesus said about marriage and sex, it was actually very, very minimal.

If you look in the Bible to find people held in high regard as morally right and good, you will find some rather amazing facts relating to their marriages and sexual activities.

These are uncomfortable things that most modern Christians would literally freak out at the suggestion.

Here's another one. Someone above noted some popes having wives, lovers, etc and now being saints. Did you know some priests and bishops ran whore houses and felt religiously justified in doing so?

Hummmmmmmmm.

[Coupleerotic22]

Advice so nice he said it twice

[twistedpretzels]

Originally Posted by Alura

I follow my uncle's teachings about Father Sky and Mother Earth. I don't have to make any excuses.

Alura

I agree. Especially, about the excuses.

[sandraandalex]

If god really cared about my sex life, I'd get a different god that had more sensible interests.

[celtic239]

While I'm not a theologian I believe that most organized religions frown upon sex outside of the normal husband and wife relationship and that this prohibition isn't confined just to Catholicism or other Christian religions. I believe that threesomes are prohibited in Islam, some sects allow a man to have several wives but he is only allowed to bed them one at a time. Buddhism and traditional Hinduism preach that "enlightenment" requires one to practice sexual self restraint. The Lifestyle is not a poster child for sexual self restraint.

[Alura]

Originally Posted by celtic239

...traditional Hinduism preach that "enlightenment" requires one to practice sexual self restraint.

The ancient love temples in India don't seem to illustrate this:

love temples in india - Google Search

Alura