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Old 06-25-2008, 09:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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About two years ago I noticed very subtle decrease in the firmness of my erections. I’m 59 now so I was about 57 when I noticed this. I brought it up to my doctor and he put me on Viagra and then Calais, both worked fine till about six to nine months ago. We were with a couple for the first time and I couldn’t get it up when she was ready. While I was pleasing her orally I was hard, when she was ready for me to enter her I was well on the way to the flaccid state, so much so I couldn’t enter her. The night ended on a good note. I told my doctor that the Viagra and Calais wasn’t working as well so he checked my testosterone level. Normal levels for a man my age is between 250 and 950 micrograms per deciliter, mine was below 125 so he put me on Hormone Replace Therapy HRT. I’ve been on it now for two and a half months. I still use Calais with the HRT substance but when I’m with a new lady I still worry about whether on not I’ll get it up and keep it up.

My question is: how do most guys that swing and have ED like I have deal with the problem.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I can't speak to the physiological aspect, but I have definitely encountered the mental mind-fuck that makes you go soft. Sometimes you are so anxious, or so uncomfortable in a situation, that nothing is going to work. It brings frustration and then you enter a negative feedback loop. Good luck recovering from that one.

The longer my wife and I have participated in the lifestyle, the easier it has become to just accept the situation, relax, and let the good times roll so to speak.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I had to deal with that some at party we were at last Saturday... but I also think I was tired. Not to mention this was a brand new couple for us, so we were a bit nervous as we always are with new partners.

I will just have to get together with them again at the next party... this Saturday.
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It can be cause by more than just that..

regular check ups and blood tests can go a long way to making sure all is well, and Mr Happy can still partake of HAPPYTIME..

Viagra works ok.. Cialus didnt have much luck with, and from what i hear levitra is better than them both..

Over time just like every other blood vessel in the body, the cholesterol can cause things to malfunction.. according to the info they all help in getting the right blood vessels to re open up and over the course of time, be ready for business without the pills

Type 2 diabetes was the cause of my stint with it..

One other point to make if it happens remember your nose is ALWAYS stiff..
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About two years ago I noticed very subtle decrease in the firmness of my erections. I’m 59 now so I was about 57 when I noticed this. I brought it up to my doctor and he put me on Viagra and then Calais, both worked fine till about six to nine months ago. We were with a couple for the first time and I couldn’t get it up when she was ready. While I was pleasing her orally I was hard, when she was ready for me to enter her I was well on the way to the flaccid state, so much so I couldn’t enter her. The night ended on a good note. I told my doctor that the Viagra and Calais wasn’t working as well so he checked my testosterone level. Normal levels for a man my age is between 250 and 950 micrograms per deciliter, mine was below 125 so he put me on Hormone Replace Therapy HRT. I’ve been on it now for two and a half months. I still use Calais with the HRT substance but when I’m with a new lady I still worry about whether on not I’ll get it up and keep it up.

My question is: how do most guys that swing and have ED like I have deal with the problem.

What kind of trt are you using, gel, injects or what? i am your age and thinking about getting test checked.
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Old 07-04-2008, 09:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I retired a few days ago and am already seeing improvements from more rest and no work related stress. My opinion has always been that many of the physical problems people suffer from are the result of sleep deprivation and unhealthy stress. If you're exhausted nothing works optimally.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I am type 2 diabetic and on blood pressure meds so ED is now a major part of my life. I tried Viagra and it was about worthless. levitra seems to help some but still no great results. Will be trying cialias in near future but don't expect much from it either. My next step is to go to urologist and see what they say but for right now I am dealing with my severe hip pain. I just try to make the best of the other body parts I have to help get my SO the pleasure she wants. I keep talking to he about swinging and she truly seems interested but is to nervous to try. I think this would help us as I can't truly give her the pleasure she wants. But I would love to watch and possible participate in her being pleasured by another man or woman.
I was told about trimix here on the list and hope to try it sometime but once again I am hoping to get my hip problem worked out first.
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What kind of trt are you using, gel, injects or what? i am your age and thinking about getting test checked.
I am using a gel, it is called AndroGel. It cums in a pump bottle, I use four pumps which administers 5 g per day. It is rubbed into my shoulders. I've not been tested since I started it about 3 months ago. My next appointment is in August.

Oh, one other thing, this stuff isn't cheap! There are two pump bottles in a box which is enough for one month at 4 pumps per day (5 g), this cost $285, my insurance only covers 90% so I have to pay some. I've read about patches but don't know much about them like how strong each patch is (ie. 2.5 or 5 g each), if they are 5 g they would be cheaper by quite a bit. The cost for 30 patches is about $50, but again I don't know how strong they are.
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I am type 2 diabetic and on blood pressure meds so ED is now a major part of my life. I tried Viagra and it was about worthless. levitra seems to help some but still no great results. Will be trying cialias in near future but don't expect much from it either. My next step is to go to urologist and see what they say but for right now I am dealing with my severe hip pain. I just try to make the best of the other body parts I have to help get my SO the pleasure she wants. I keep talking to he about swinging and she truly seems interested but is to nervous to try. I think this would help us as I can't truly give her the pleasure she wants. But I would love to watch and possible participate in her being pleasured by another man or woman.
I was told about trimix here on the list and hope to try it sometime but once again I am hoping to get my hip problem worked out first.

It was my cardiologist the put me on the HRT, not my urologist. All my urologist did was perscribe a $600 pump, which my insurance paid for. I've used it twice but is somewhat unpleasant to use.
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It can be cause by more than just that..

regular check ups and blood tests can go a long way to making sure all is well, and Mr Happy can still partake of HAPPYTIME..

Viagra works ok.. Cialus didnt have much luck with, and from what i hear levitra is better than them both..

Over time just like every other blood vessel in the body, the cholesterol can cause things to malfunction.. according to the info they all help in getting the right blood vessels to re open up and over the course of time, be ready for business without the pills

Type 2 diabetes was the cause of my stint with it..

One other point to make if it happens remember your nose is ALWAYS stiff..

While what you say is true, don't rely on time curing all. I've been on cholesterol reduction meds since my heartattack over 14 years ago. My combined LDL levels is below 125 (was 275 when I had my heartattack) and my HDL level is 55.

If the doctor puts you on cholesterol reduction meds, BE SURE THERE IS NO ED RELATED SIDE EFFECTS. Some CR meds have this problem.
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While what you say is true, don't rely on time curing all. I've been on cholesterol reduction meds since my heartattack over 14 years ago. My combined LDL levels is below 125 (was 275 when I had my heartattack) and my HDL level is 55.

If the doctor puts you on cholesterol reduction meds, BE SURE THERE IS NO ED RELATED SIDE EFFECTS. Some CR meds have this problem.
I am on Crestor for the past two years and have noticed a decrease in my erection. I am hard to begin with but usualy will go soft. I tried Viagra which worked only on a completely empty stomach. Cialis has worked on both full and empty stomach and usually does the trick, but I still have a hard time actually orgasming. Could the Crestor be at fault?
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I am on Crestor for the past two years and have noticed a decrease in my erection. I am hard to begin with but usualy will go soft. I tried Viagra which worked only on a completely empty stomach. Cialis has worked on both full and empty stomach and usually does the trick, but I still have a hard time actually orgasming. Could the Crestor be at fault?
I'd do a Google search for Crestor and see. Your problem is very similar to the problem was having. This past Sunday we had a play sesion with a couple we've played with before, the evening was a total success. Saturday I took one 20mg Cialis tablet, on Sunday about an hour before we all meet I took one 50 mg Viagra and three ArginMax dietary supplement tablets and three L-Arginine 1000 tablets (I've been taknig both for several months, I get them from GNC). When the other couple got there I was hard as a rock, we fucked and I came and she came twice. We all rested and just played around with some toys, about an hour later I was hard as a rock again. We fucked and she came three times I came once, she road me for almost 15 minutes till she was tired and climbed off. I was still rock hard so my wife climbed on and fuck me till she came. I didn't cum again but was still semi hard we she climbed off. I don't know if these resutls is because of the "cocktail" of Viagra and Cialis or from being on testrostron supplements for three months. Either way we had the best play session in months.
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While what you say is true, don't rely on time curing all. I've been on cholesterol reduction meds since my heartattack over 14 years ago. My combined LDL levels is below 125 (was 275 when I had my heartattack) and my HDL level is 55.

If the doctor puts you on cholesterol reduction meds, BE SURE THERE IS NO ED RELATED SIDE EFFECTS. Some CR meds have this problem.
Agreed. Statins (Lipitor or similar) particularly have a libedo lowering effect.

Cholesterol is the body's building blocks for all our hormones and if the level is too low there isn't enough to go around. Got to get the balance right.
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I had been suffering from prostatitis (inflamed prostate), I guess sitting a lot and just years of all your organs sitting on your prostate can cause stagnant blood and toxins to build up. This causes irritation and poor blood flow to the prostate. I tried a prostate massager after years of docs telling me nothing was wrong! Any way I had no been having ED issues, but since using the massager all I can say is I stay harder longer and ejaculate much more (volume and strength) since using it. Plus all my other issues have cleared up; problems getting urine stream going, numbness in thighs, lower back pain and occasional ache in the shaft of the penis. I was amazed that my prostate could cause all these symptoms, but the more I read about prostate massage the more I realized I was not alone. Others have reported similar erection and ejaculation improvements as well. I hope this info can help! Here is where I got it......

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