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80% won't seek help for ED?

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Old 01-22-2008, 02:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was just reading a sexual study that said that only about 20 percent of men with erectile dysfunction get help! That means that around 80% of men with ED are either in denial, avoiding the issue, or just dealing with it alone and "off the grid".

As we know from so many posts on this board, ED is alive and well in the swing community. I wouldn't be surprised if the statistics from the study (general male population) hold fairly true to the population of male swingers.
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Do you think that some men get into the lifestyle because of ED - they think that sexual variety will "cure" their ED? Or perhaps they think that their wife isn't stimulating enough for them anymore, and that is the cause of his ED (i.e., blame it on the wife)? It's got me wondering.

Does anybody have any experiences that sound like this?
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Statisticians have a way of defining terms to benefit their agenda. I think most guys would be motivated to seek assistance (assuming they felt the need).....

I've been thinking about getting some vitaman V - mostly for party nights. I wonder if that qualifies for their definition of ED.
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was just reading a sexual study that said that only about 20 percent of men with erectile dysfunction get help! That means that around 80% of men with ED are either in denial, avoiding the issue, or just dealing with it alone and "off the grid".

As we know from so many posts on this board, ED is alive and well in the swing community. I wouldn't be surprised if the statistics from the study (general male population) hold fairly true to the population of male swingers.
What do you think?
I think the "study" (like most "studies" these days) is a fabrication. Men that don't get treated for ED probably don't because they don't want anyone to know, right? That's pretty obvious. They're keeping it secret. So how would these "researchers" have any way of knowing just how many men weren't seeking treatment? What, did they read everyone's minds?

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Do you think that some men get into the lifestyle because of ED - they think that sexual variety will "cure" their ED? Or perhaps they think that their wife isn't stimulating enough for them anymore, and that is the cause of his ED (i.e., blame it on the wife)? It's got me wondering.

Does anybody have any experiences that sound like this?
I was actually thinking that maybe men in the lifestyle who had ED would probably have it from getting too much action in a day to keep up! Seriously though, we haven't run into this. Actually, we haven't even talked about "what we would do" (read: what C would do) if we ran into this. It would probably be a good thing to discuss.
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: 80% won't seek help for ED?

I would think that if someone with ED were swinging he would tend to get it treated, if for no other reason than to save him the embarrassment when he fails to perform.

I also think it is important to note that ED and the common performance anxiety problems seen in swinging are two different things. in other words, just because someone gets a case of the nerves or distractions and can't get wood in a swinging situation doesn't automatically mean he has ED. He may perform just fine with his wife or SO.
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Default Re: 80% won't seek help for ED?

I dont have alot of experience with older couples that might actually suffer from ED. However it happens with people my age as well (in their 30's) and in my opinion is almost always due to anxiety.. Instead of asking you doctor for Viagra, try asking for a light dose of Xanax. You might just be amazed what can happen when you knock the edge off.
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I think the "study" (like most "studies" these days) is a fabrication. Men that don't get treated for ED probably don't because they don't want anyone to know, right? That's pretty obvious. They're keeping it secret. So how would these "researchers" have any way of knowing just how many men weren't seeking treatment?
I don't think it was bogus....it was based on thousands of anonymous surveys collected by Bob Berkowitz, Ph.D., and Susan Yager-Berkowitz, M.A. I guess the anonymity made the participants comfortable about being honest. Only 2 in 10 who felt they had ED issues said they were seeking treatment.
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I think the "study" (like most "studies" these days) is a fabrication. Men that don't get treated for ED probably don't because they don't want anyone to know, right? That's pretty obvious. They're keeping it secret. So how would these "researchers" have any way of knowing just how many men weren't seeking treatment? What, did they read everyone's minds?
Sorry I must disagree with you on this one. I have ED. Hey theres a good one Ed has ED. LOL No in all seriousness it was not that I was embarrased or anything like that. My mind just refused to accept it. Unconsciously I ignored it and worked around the problem. But it was not enough for Bunny. It took her confronting me so that I realized I had a problem. She was worried I was losing attraction, so I can see how others would think swinging to be an answer. So off to the doctor we went. Long story short, it is not covered for us so we pay $140 a month for my meds. Best money we could ever spend. Funny thing is, it will not fix performance anxiety.
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Sorry I must disagree with you on this one. I have ED. Hey theres a good one Ed has ED. LOL No in all seriousness it was not that I was embarrased or anything like that. My mind just refused to accept it. Unconsciously I ignored it and worked around the problem. But it was not enough for Bunny. It took her confronting me so that I realized I had a problem. She was worried I was losing attraction, so I can see how others would think swinging to be an answer. So off to the doctor we went. Long story short, it is not covered for us so we pay $140 a month for my meds. Best money we could ever spend. Funny thing is, it will not fix performance anxiety.
That's interesting--I hadn't thought of that. I'm glad things are working out for you now. It seems to me that you might be the exception to the rule though...maybe a poll of people's motivations to not seek treatment would clarify this.

I still don't trust anonymous studies...I have personally seen how screwed up they can get when respondents have some sort of agenda (not that that's necessarily the case with any study in particular--just my experience).
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi all,

BC- Being a forever student, I agree with you. I also don't agree with blind studies. It allows for misinterpertation or skewing of data.

Ed- I'm proud that you stepped up to the plate on this one. We need more men like you, my love, who arn't afraid to step forward and say, "I'm one."

ED is a natural problem that occurs in 80% of men over the age of 40. The degree of disfuction can range from minimal (a semi-erect penis, still able to penetrate) to dramatic (failure to gain any response, completely limp.)

Though my husband fell in the medium, it was on those nights that I couldn't get him hard, like a rock; that I felt that he was loosing his desire for me. We had been married for 12 years, and we married in our late 20's. Being a nurse, I always believed that a healthy sexual relationship in our marriage was important; so every 6 months we would have dinner and evaluate our sex life and what we could do to make it better.

By now, I'm sure that you realise, we have had many discussions and the one about his semi-erectness was the most difficult. I broke down in tears and asked why he wasn't really as interested in me, and why I didn't turn him on anymore (referring to the hardness of his cock). He was shocked, stunned, and devoid of a voice (you should have seen the look on his face )

He immediately came to hold me and assure me that he loved and worshipped me, and that he hadn't noticed any difference (or had ignored it). We talked more and my nursing brain kicked in, and it all added up. It wasn't his interest, it was his age. I mentioned what I thought and then his brain kicked in and we made an immediate appointment at the doctors office (The very next day.)

We explained to the doctor together, he did a lab draw to check Ed's testestorone level (which were normal), and then gave us three samples to try to see which one worked best. Viagra, Levetra, and Cialis.

We took them home, and tried all three types, we liked the Cialis the best. Though more expensive and not covered at all by our insurance, we felt it worked better for Ed. And wha-la things returned to the every other day event with a firm conclusion for all.....

For more information about ED, refer to this website:
http://www.erectile-dysfunction.net
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