Circle Jerks

[AlanCatherine]

LM

It only says Soggy Sao is the Australian version. We don't call them cookies.

[AlanCatherine]

If you don't see anything gay or bisexual about a bunch of guys jerking off together,

For crying out loud, I don't get together with a bunch of guys now. Nor did I in my late teens even. All I said was that young guys discovering their sexuality might not see anything particularly wrong with doing that. You obviously think there is something wrong with it. All we discovered was that it is not exactly the done thing so we don't do it any more. And we didn't "seek out" other guys to do it with. We were just there and it came up. Now it doesn't. OK?

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by AlanCatherine

For crying out loud, I don't get together with a bunch of guys now. Nor did I in my late teens even. All I said was that young guys discovering their sexuality might not see anything particularly wrong with doing that. You obviously think there is something wrong with it. All we discovered was that it is not exactly the done thing so we don't do it any more. And we didn't "seek out" other guys to do it with. We were just there and it came up. Now it doesn't. OK?

If you can point out where I said it was 'wrong' please do so.

[AlanCatherine]

You can't hide behind the non-use of a word when your other words make it obvious that you don't approve. You can't disapprove of something that you think is right. Approval and a sense of wrongness are mutually exclusive. Since you would "never" do this, you obviously don't approve of it and think that it is wrong. And all this on a forum frequented by people who allegedly have a broader acceptance of alternative lifestyles? When it comes to the crunch, you are just as judgemental inside the circle as those outside the circle. Circles within circles obviously.

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by AlanCatherine

If you are homophobic, then naturally you are going to deny ever participating in this sort of thing.

Dude...

Take a breath...

No one is insulting you. No one is putting down guys who have jerked and/or will jerk with other guys. No one is demeaning you for being Austrailian.

Personally, I think you are trying to pick a fight and I am not sure why...

While having a history of masturbatory exploration and being Austrailian do not cause me or anyone else to think ill of you - picking fights certainly will. So chill out...

I am not bisexual - nor did I ever participate in masturbation games with my buddies. However, I do not have a problem with those that do. It is not "homophobic indoctrination" that makes me say this, it is simply a way to relay the facts and answer the original question as it was posed.

Would a bunch of men standing around whacking off make me uncomfortable? Yes. There is nothing wrong with that. It is simply the way I am made/wired/put together. Frankly, I think your uncalled for railing reads as being quite heterophobic.

And as an aside - I think the soggy biscuit game is pretty gross, but to each his own.

Spoomonkey

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by AlanCatherine

Since you would "never" do this, you obviously don't approve of it and think that it is wrong.

That is faulty logic...

You are shadow boxing - looking for demons in the bushes. They aren't there.

Spoomonkey

[Vespertine]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

The practice is also commonly known as "ookie cookie", "come on the cracker", "come on the cookie", or "Soggy Sao" (Australia).[/I]

It gives the word "cream filling' a whole new meaning.

[AlanCatherine]

Spoomonkey

I also think the game is gross. I never played it. I only heard about it. I was using it as an example of something that would really upset you if you thought that a bunch of kids jerking off was bad. I was not picking a fight, there are other ways to do that. I am just trying to add information to a thread when a question is asked but I was, in fact, insulted when I was asked if it was an Australian only game. That was terribly suggestive and I reacted. It means that in the mind of the questioner, only Australians can do something so gross. A very simple internet search did turn up the definition. Why ask the question here in so insulting a manner when a simple google search will give all the answers? My only conclusion was that the question was intended as an insult and I reacted.

There is another activity called bukkake where a bunch of guys DO stand around jerking off. The only difference is that they are not jerking off onto a biscuit or cookie or whatever your country calls it but they are jerking off onto a woman's (or man's) face or body. This is one time that you WILL get guys older than their teens jerking off together. In this case they can be of either persuasion.

I know that there is a code of honour among swingers that if you don't have a partner, you are not welcome here. That is so clear from many posts where the husband is excluded when the wife wants an FMF. You have to have an even swap capability or you are expelled from the group.

I would like to think that we could share all kinds of ways of giving pleasure rather than one little niche that looks down on everyone else as outsiders. But it is not going to happen while people continue to present negative views of anything they don't participate in.

There are lines I won't cross either but I don't pass judgement on those who do. It's their thing. Why go on and on and on about how guys who jerk off together have to be bi or gay when it has absolutley nothing to do with your lifestyle? The question was "is it common for guys to do this?" and the answer was no, not particularly and then some examples were presented. I was not picking a fight, just questioning the need for someone to pass comments that had a negative flavour about them simply because it was not the commentor's "thing".

[Dynamar]

Originally Posted by AlanCatherine

I would like to think that we could share all kinds of ways of giving pleasure rather than one little niche that looks down on everyone else as outsiders. But it is not going to happen while people continue to present negative views of anything they don't participate in. (bolding by Dynamar)

There are lines I won't cross either but I don't pass judgement on those who do. It's their thing.

Well said.

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by Vespertine

It gives the word "cream filling' a whole new meaning.

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by AlanCatherine

There are lines I won't cross either but I don't pass judgement on those who do. It's their thing.

Who has passed judgement?

This is where I see the problem - you are looking for something that isn't there.

Spoomonkey

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by AlanCatherine

There are lines I won't cross either but I don't pass judgement on those who do. It's their thing. Why go on and on and on about how guys who jerk off together have to be bi or gay when it has absolutley nothing to do with your lifestyle? The question was "is it common for guys to do this?" and the answer was no, not particularly and then some examples were presented. I was not picking a fight, just questioning the need for someone to pass comments that had a negative flavour about them simply because it was not the commentor's "thing".

Its not my thing that is correct, but I think you doth protest to much. Is something being called a gay/bisexual activity a negative comment? I'm sorry but to me men of any age jerking off together, no women present, is gay/bisexual in nature. By stating this I in NO way claimed it was wrong, I stated it was homosexual in nature. You took it off into tangents that were well outside of what I said. I did not attack your masculinity so you can please quit acting like it, its silly.

It has NOTHING to do with approval, I don't CARE, I don't want to do it, but I don't CARE, get that into your head.

The problem isn't me here.

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by AlanCatherine

I also think the game is gross...I was, in fact, insulted when I was asked if it was an Australian only game. That was terribly suggestive and I reacted. It means that in the mind of the questioner, only Australians can do something so gross.

Alan ~

I was the one who asked if the soggy biscuit game (which you brought into this thread) was only happening in Australia. I also explained in a later post why I was asking. My question was not meant to insult. The game does not bother me. But you admit that it bothers you; you "think the game is gross." Maybe it is your unacceptance of the game that makes you attack me for my asking a straightforward and legitimate question. What would be so wrong and embarrassing to you if the game had originated in Australia and hadn't yet spread out to other countries?

It wouldn't bother me if that game started in my little state.

I can envision starting a little cafe, with checkered tableclothes, that serves only a breakfast menu. On that menu would be our special "Soggy Biscuits" known around the world, and tourist would stop in just to try them out. I would name the cafe "Jerk's Circle" and all the tables would be round.

A very simple internet search did turn up the definition. Why ask the question here in so insulting a manner when a simple google search will give all the answers? My only conclusion was that the question was intended as an insult and I reacted.

Why ask the question of you? Because you brought up the game, and because when a member posts something new, other members often ask for further explanation. Yes, I could do a google, but the answers I would find might not be how you personally see something, and I was looking for your personal knowledge of the game.

LM

[AlanCatherine]

Thanks LM

My personal knowledge of the game is now the same as yours. I only know OF it.

It's funny how perceptions work. I have no problem going down on Catherine after a dozen guys have cum in her but I am not going to touch that flippin' biscuit...

[Spoomonkey]

So - in an effort to try to get this thread back on topic - let me see if I can summarize...

1. Men apparently circle jerk in various ways, either for pleasure or to ruin snack foods...

2. Men either will not admit it, or it is a fairly rare thing that gets a lot of press because it is somewhat shocking to think about...

3. Doing so is not indictative of one's sexuality or nationality...

4. Women did it all the time as girls when they went to sleep overs...

5. Monkeys masturbate shamelessly at the zoo...

Is this accurate so far? Any additional thoughts?

Spoomonkey