Do you kiss and how passionately?

[Grene]

Originally Posted by intuition897

We used to believe in the 'no-kissing' rule, too. Then we realized that whether or not we became too emotionally close to our swing partners had nothing to do with any given physical act. It was a matter of choice. You have to decide whether or not you are receptive to or giving off emotional vibes. If you have no interest in starting another relationship, why should kissing be any different than any other sex act?.

Dito We agree kissing has nothing to do with emotionally closeness.

You see the way her lips are full and ripe. You feel his breath on your cheek, and you hear her breathing become deeper and fuller as she becomes excited. You feel the exact moment your lips touch his. The lips are exquisitely sensitive under normal circumstances, but with the increase in blood flow during arousal, they are even more so. And she tastes like cinnamon, mint, or merlot. And you can sense (sort of like smell, but not quite) the unscented perfume of pheromones rising from the face, neck and body.

Wow, we can see why you got rid of the no kissing rule and you can kiss us anytime!
Thanks everyone for your input

[dreamer]

This also an excellent way to pass oral herpes. Swinging is so much fun. Enjoy !

[clit pro poet]

If you don't kiss, why bother?

[Alura]

I've asked this question before but noone has ever answered it:

If you don't kiss, how do you get sex started?

Mr. Alura

[jennandjamesinm]

Originally Posted by Alura

I've asked this question before but noone has ever answered it:

If you don't kiss, how do you get sex started?

Mr. Alura

You aren't the only one who would like to know that answer to this question....

Jenn

[CB_n_Red]

Originally Posted by jennandjamesinm

You aren't the only one who would like to know that answer to this question....

Oh yes! I think we should be told!

For the life of me I can't see how anyone could get started without a lot of kissing.

CB

[Alura]

Well, I am so happy someone else has wondered the same thing. I thought it was because I'm a hick Okie that I didn't know.

I'm looking forward to answers from the non-kissers.


Mr. Alura

[dreamer]

Originally Posted by clit pro poet

If you don't kiss, why bother?

Well then, by all means kiss and participate in the bio diversity that all your partners have participated in the swinging community which should be quite a bit. It's certainly worth risk getting an STD for a few moments of lust.

We've only done this once, but as much as I'd like to see my pretty little wife get pounded by another guy, there's inherently something a little greasy and creepy about the lifestyle and some of the people in it, and maybe it's some of their attitudes about disregarding the safety of their own health. For instance: some have the attitude of "We don't use condoms, but we will if you want us to" I don't even want to talk to someone like that let alone touch them. Yes, I'd like to participate, but I don't think I'll be able to penetrate somebody until I can penetrate the wall of reason and knowledge I have about infectious diseases. We are squeaky clean and we will stay that way.

[intuition897]

Originally Posted by dreamer

...there's inherently something a little greasy and creepy about the lifestyle and some of the people in it, and maybe it's some of their attitudes about disregarding the safety of their own health.

dreamer, are you sure you're on the right website? Uh, yeah! Sex is messy! That's part of the fun of it. If you want to check stats, I'm sure there are links to them around here somewhere. But I've heard that the CDC has declared swingers to be a low risk group. Of course there's a risk, but you take risks every single day. A simple trip to the grocery store and wham! you've got little-kid-germs all over your hands from the shopping cart. Used an ATM lately? And don't even start me on public washrooms. The fact is, germs are everywhere. And as far as oral herpes goes, 50% of the population has the virus. One kid can pass it to another kid (yes, kids get them) by hugging or kissing each other. Or by sharing toys. Or sleeping on the same nap-time pillow. And unsuspecting parent kisses the kid hello at home time... Did you know that babies are born with sterile mouths? They inherit lactobacilli, streptococci mutans and spirochetes (cavity causing bacteria) from other humans. If it were possible to avoid contamination, people would never get cavities. However, the world is a messy place.

Inherently greasy and creepy?? I wonder if you're really here for friendly conversation or if you're trolling?

EDIT>> I'd also like to add that while we do take a risk by exposing ourselves to other people sexually, we DO, as a group, attempt to avoid taking stupid risks. Yes, we are aware of the risk of contagious disease, yes we use condoms, and yes, we're pretty picky about our partners. It doesn't eliminate risk, but it helps.

[jennandjamesinm]

And as always, I LOVE the way intuition puts things ....my thoughts exactly, just better put!!!

Jenn

[jennandjamesinm]

And we are still left with the question on how you get things started with no kissing.....To the no kissers, please share with us - I am very curious.

Jenn

[WildMiCouple]

Originally Posted by intuition897

.... They inherit lactobacilli, streptococci mutans and spirochetes (cavity causing bacteria) from other humans.

Intuition......I love it when you talk dirty

Brett (and Tammy)

Grene.....please excuse my thread drift

[dreamer]

Originally Posted by intuition897

dreamer, are you sure you're on the right website? Uh, yeah! Sex is messy! That's part of the fun of it. If you want to check stats, I'm sure there are links to them around here somewhere. But I've heard that the CDC has declared swingers to be a low risk group. Of course there's a risk, but you take risks every single day. A simple trip to the grocery store and wham! you've got little-kid-germs all over your hands from the shopping cart. Used an ATM lately? And don't even start me on public washrooms. The fact is, germs are everywhere. And as far as oral herpes goes, 50% of the population has the virus. One kid can pass it to another kid (yes, kids get them) by hugging or kissing each other. Or by sharing toys. Or sleeping on the same nap-time pillow. And unsuspecting parent kisses the kid hello at home time... Did you know that babies are born with sterile mouths? They inherit lactobacilli, streptococci mutans and spirochetes (cavity causing bacteria) from other humans. If it were possible to avoid contamination, people would never get cavities. However, the world is a messy place.

Inherently greasy and creepy?? I wonder if you're really here for friendly conversation or if you're trolling?

EDIT>> I'd also like to add that while we do take a risk by exposing ourselves to other people sexually, we DO, as a group, attempt to avoid taking stupid risks. Yes, we are aware of the risk of contagious disease, yes we use condoms, and yes, we're pretty picky about our partners. It doesn't eliminate risk, but it helps.

Now that you've established that 50% percent of the population has it, and even children. I'm sure you feel justified in engaging in the behavior you do. Really, swinging is just like sharing a nap time pillow. How cozy.

Now that swinging is heartily endorsed by the CDC, we'll be making our way to the Red Rooster soon. My wife and I have been members of a swing web site, and the people that contacted us I would say were greasy and creepy, porn looking people. Maybe I just need to come to grips with my own greasiness.

Trolling, not really, but believe what you want. I would say, more frustrated because my logical brain won't let me engage in behavior my dick is telling me is like sharing a nap time pillow. Oh well, maybe some day. Like I said: Enjoy. I hope to be there as soon as I'm able to convince myself: what the fuck? Herpes ain't so bad. (no sarcasm)

[intuition897]

Originally Posted by dreamer

Maybe I just need to come to grips with my own greasiness.

I think you're onto something there.

Originally Posted by dreamer

Trolling, not really, but believe what you want. I would say, more frustrated because my logical brain won't let me engage in behavior my dick is telling me is like sharing a nap time pillow. Oh well, maybe some day. Like I said: Enjoy. I hope to be there as soon as I'm able to convince myself: what the fuck? Herpes ain't so bad. (no sarcasm)

Staying vanilla ain't a crime. Frankly we'd all be just as happy without the sarcastic attitude. I'm assuming the (no sarcasm) disclaimer only applied to the very last statement, 'cause the rest of the post seemed fairly ripe with it. Or was I reading it wrong?

If you have questions and concerns about disease and safer sex, there is a whole forum devoted just to those topics. If you haven't browsed through it yet, I'd encourage you to do so. If you're waiting for someone to promise you that you'll never encounter a disease, you won't find it; we're more realistic than that. But there are plenty of threads addressing people's experience with STDs including at least one poll. I don't remember where it is (Julie? LM? Anyone?) but I'm sure you'd find it interesting.

[jennandjamesinm]

Here you go intuition:

STD Polls -

Poll: Would You Knowingly Play With A Couple With Herpes
http://www.swingersboard.com/forums/...light=std+poll
Is there anything in the lifestyle that worries or scares you?
Have you ever contracted an STD from a swing partner?
If you have HPV would you tell your potential partners?
Poll: Are You Willing to go Bareback?

And just for shits and giggles - I searched with the words herpes, condoms and STD's...so TROLL here is some more for you to read......like you'll even bother....

Why Condoms for sex and not for oral?
What are your rules?
Do you swing Bareback?
Safe Sex & Herpes
Herpes...

Jenn