how to get 2 girls together for their first time?

[scott17201]

My friend and I would like to see our girlfriends in bed together. ive talked to my gf about it and she shed if she had some drinks in her shed probably do it. she does think his gf is attractive. shes never been with a girl before other than kissing a girl before and they played with each others breasts. that was a while ago. my friend said he thinks his gf would also if she had a few drinks in her. i think this could happen but both girls would be to shy to start something. so im asking how could we get this started.

[Spoomonkey]

Definitely plow them with alcohol...

Bottles and bottles of it. Jello Shots, Purple Hooters, Lemon Drops and whatever other "froo-froo" drink you can ply down their gullet...

People make their worst decisions drunk, so even if they aren't ready and don't really want to do it, the alcohol will make them do it. Then you and your buddy can high five for weeks while your girlfriends sleep off the liquor and deal with their feelings (which could include guilt, remorse, disgust, anger - but who cares! You saw live lesbo sex!!! WOO-HOO!!!)

Seriously - this isn't something you want to manipulate them into. That is just all kinds of wrong. And all joking aside, the best way for anyone to have sex is after choosing to do so. If they aren't ready to discuss it - then they aren't ready to do it.

I have seen two girls together - and even saw three a few times. It was totally sweet - and there was alcohol involved. But not before the women had decided that swinging and bisexual activity was something within their comfort zones. In fact, if the decision had come after alcohol, then I - being the kind of guy who loves his wife and doesn't want her waking up to a head full of regrets - would have vetoed her choice and given her some time to think about it with her wits about her.

Relax - take your time - let them discuss it - and let them agree to it - soberly. It is their decision - not yours.

Spoomonkey

[scott17201]

i agree but i dont think my gf would regret it. she didnt drink a thing when she kissed a girl once and played with her boobs. the alcohol would get her relaxed enough to do it. weve talked about it and havent been drinking and she said shed probably do it.

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by scott17201

i agree but i dont think my gf would regret it.

How about the other girlfriend?

Originally Posted by scott17201

the alcohol would get her relaxed enough to do it.

Alcohol relaxes you enough to be comfortable in a social situation. But when you need alcohol to have sex when you otherwise wouldn't, I am not sure that it is a wise thing...

Originally Posted by scott17201

weve talked about it and havent been drinking and she said shed probably do it.

Yes - but did she talk to the other girlfriend about whether or not she'd be cool with it? Have the four of you guys sat down and talked about all of this?

There is still one girlfriend involved in this "let's get 'em drunk" scenario that needs to be considered. I don't know... The fact that they are saying "I don't know... Maybe... If I were drunk" and leaving the rest to a couple of boyfriends to figure out just isn't the way I'd advise that you go about it.

My honest advice (and that is what you asked for) is for the four of you to go out to dinner and discuss it like adults. Then, if they need a drink or two to get comfortable and relaxed, cool. You really, really, really don't want to have either of the girls wake up feeling like they've made a mistake. Right?

You want them to enjoy it - this is for them, right? Not just for you and your buddy to "WOO-HOO" about? Get them involved in the discussion and go from there.

If they aren't ready to do that - then they aren't ready period.

Spoomonkey

[flkeyscouple]

Edit to say - Agree with above post - we must have been writing at the same time....


You need her to make the decision to go from 'probably' to 'yes'. And she should talk to the other gf too... presuming your buddy has already talked to his gf and she has given her 'yes'. Meanwhile the four of you can go out and possibly all four of you could talk about it. But Spoo is right - the decision is hers, not yours.

A drink to calm the nerves is one thing - drinking a bunch is another. We try to remain sober whenever we swing - not to say we are not drinking at all. But if one of us gets drunk, the other has veto power for anything that may start, continue, or progress.

Nothing wrong with moving slowly!

Sarah

[sexyshelby]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

Definitely plow them with alcohol...

Bottles and bottles of it. Jello Shots, Purple Hooters, Lemon Drops and whatever other "froo-froo" drink you can ply down their gullet...

Nice plan!

Actually, it does need to be their decision, not you and your friend's. The girls have to decide if it is something that they want to do or not. You don't mention anything about what the other girl thinks/feels. Has anyone mentioned this to her???

As for the alcohol, I'm not saying that they can't have a few before jumping into bed...but the decision to do so needs to be a sober one.

Personally, I would probably want a drink or two to calm my nerves and loosen me up a bit. But this only be after I had made a sober choice that this was something I wanted to do.

Don't push them...just talk to them. Sometimes just planting the idea is enough. And if its not, then drop it.

~SS

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by scott17201

i agree but i dont think my gf would regret it. she didnt drink a thing when she kissed a girl once and played with her boobs. the alcohol would get her relaxed enough to do it. weve talked about it and havent been drinking and she said shed probably do it.

Scott ~

A little over a month ago you posted this thread where you said:

we have talked about it. shes not ready for the thought of me with another girl. but my friend and i have talked about getting our girls together. he said his finance will do it. and my gf thinks she is cute and said with some drinks in her she might get with her. so i figured this could be a starting point.

Members have been giving you good advice, the kind of advice that is ideal for most people. The problem is, you're not like most people who come to this Board for advice. You - and your buddy - are guys who are going to do what you're going to do. And I'd bet your girlfriends eventually agree to whatever that happens to be.

Contrary to popular advice, I say go for it, since I think you're going to do it anyway. See what you learn from the experience.

LM

[fordman460]

I say use a ratchet strap, booze and some luck.

[nice_cpl_n_bama]

My motto on alcohol: "If you have to get drunk in order to do something, that's a pretty good sign that you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."

[crazycatz]

I wonder what his response would be if she asked to see the two guys get it on, alcohol induced of course!

Jeez, some people.

[Sweet_Candy]

Originally Posted by crazycatz

I wonder what his response would be if she asked to see the two guys get it on, alcohol induced of course!

Jeez, some people.

My thoughts as well.

[DBL D]

I think I know what the OP means when he said that his GF said she'd need a couple drinks. That seems normal to me...I always have a shot or two before I start a job that has unknown features. Helps me deal with the mystery so much better than when straight.

Honestly. These posts where guys come on here and say "How can I get her to (See: swing, play with a female, have group sex, etc.)" are so sad to read. They are missing the point. Free will is where it's at!

I look forward to the day when Fem D is much more comfortable with girls than she has been but I just don't worry about what she wants to do with either sex. The key is to make a sound mental decision. LM went through this and told us of her feelings about being bi: Is she or isn't she. I don't believe alcohol was mentioned as a factor in her decisionmaking.

Good luck but don't manipulate things. It always makes for hard feelings later.

Let the girls work things out by themselves.

Male D

[wifes_sex_slave]

Spoomonkey, you're a riot!
We totally agree with your responses and love the humor.

[pagan-lovers]

I think Spoomonkey already said it best. The wife and I don't drink at all, but will play with friends who have had a few, IF I know they would make the same choice sober. Thats it, end of story.

[ohash01]

Scott - give her time. If she's TOYING with the idea...she's not COMPLETELY against it. But as a girlfriend...I am saying do NOT egg her on or prod her. You've dropped the little kernel of thought into her head...she's probably thinking about it when you don't know that she's thinking about it. There are issues and fears with it that she'll have to work past herself.

It took me a LONG time to:
1) discuss with j. how he felt about it and explain to him my feelings
2) work through it in my head and decide it was definately something i was interested in
3) meet a female who was also interested, that i was attracted to AND liked as a person
4) get all 4 of us together and talk about it.

And you know what...we STILL haven't "done it" yet...because we're in a nice place being buddies who flirt and are attracted to one another and when it happens, we want it to be "real". We don't want to feel like we HAVE to play with one another. And this is among 4 people that are totally on the up and up and know what all the others are thinking. Unlike your little group where the men are playing with the heads of the women.