how to get 2 girls together for their first time?

[flkeyscouple]

Originally Posted by scott17201

the gf knows about this, so get that straight. the question simpliy was what is the best way to go about this since both are passive and will do it but one would have to start it.

But does the other gf know about it? If so, and IF you take everyones advise and all four of you get together for a sober discussion (maybe over dinner or maybe while bowling, etc.) and all four of you are on the same page - then you don't have to orchestrate WHO makes the first move. It doesn't matter - if you are all on the same page, it will just happen.

Originally Posted by scott17201

thats why i said a few drinks to calm there nerves. most of you here are missing the point.! it is not oh lets get them drunk and take advantage its not that at all. the girls know about this. my gf is willing just wants a few drinks to calm her a bit. so again the question is whats the best way to go about it with 2 passive women. do you go out and get drinks and go dancing then come back to the house? so lets try this again.

It still seems like you are trying to orchestrate this situation. If you've all talked about it, drink away, and as long as you end up in the place you've planned, it should simply happen. If it doesn't it's because someone is NOT on the same page. Let it happen, don't force it to happen.

I think you have missed OUR point - if each of the girls know about it but haven't talked TOGETHER about it, then it's still being forced. Let THEM set the pace. But make sure it's what they both want.

The alcohol isn't a big deal - if they want some drinks to relax, fine. Just make sure that the discussion between the two of them (or better yet the four of you) is a sober discussion!

Good luck. I'm sure that if the girls want this, it will happen. And I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time watching or participating. Just let the girls set the pace!!

Sarah

[Mr. Truelove]

If I were you. I'd first talk to your girlfriend and get a yes or no out of her on this. Not a "I think she would be into it", or she said "She'd probably do it". You don't want maybes and probablys, you need a yes or no.

And now the other girl needs to do this same thing. She needs to give a yes or no and not a maybe.

Then, assuming everyone is on the same page, everything should go pretty well no matter what you do. Because if they want it, then it should happen pretty naturally.

Now, I don't have anything against going out, drinking and having a good time. But if they are even remotely drunk I would call off play. A couple to loosen things up is alright I guess, but you could dance very close along that line of what they are ultimatly comfortable with. What if she gets in the heat of the moment and suddenly starts having jealousy issues? Would she be too drunk to stop things? Would she not feel like speaking up? Because we see that here on the board all the time where the female half comes back on and starts going on and on about how this is what her boyfriend wanted so she didn't say anything.

You could take it the stay at home route. Watch a fairly sexy movie, let the girls set next to eachother, see what happens that way. Strip poker. Sex games. on and on.

The biggest thing is to make sure all parties are comfortable. I think once that happens, then having to make accomodations to get things started won't be much of an issue.

Mr. Truelove

[iapr]

Originally Posted by scott17201

speaking of assholes edison carter is a real big one! you are missing the point. the gf knows about this, so get that straight. the question simpliy was what is the best way to go about this since both are passive and will do it but one would have to start it. thats why i said a few drinks to calm there nerves. most of you here are missing the point.! it is not oh lets get them drunk and take advantage its not that at all. the girls know about this. my gf is willing just wants a few drinks to calm her a bit. so again the question is whats the best way to go about it with 2 passive women. do you go out and get drinks and go dancing then come back to the house? so lets try this again.

Of course she knows about it, you are probably riding her ass about it every day. Noone here is missing the point, it is that you just aren't "getting it."
Let me put it this way, At a lot of real swinger parties the women get so wrapped up in each other the men end up bored and looking at their watches wanting to go home while the women are doughnut bumping on each other all night. In other words if your chicks wanted to roll around on each other they would have done it already. They wouldn't need YOU here asking total strangers how to fanagle them into making out for your little frat party peep show for you and your buddy's viewing entertainment, they would just do it. They aren't passive they are just not interested. You are probably just bugging them so much about it they tell you little bits and pieces of things you want to hear just to appease you and get you off their backs for a few minutes.

I still say what you and your pal need to do is go to some peep show place and lay your $ down and get all the giggles you want and noone will get hurt or have any regrets the next day. There will be whole lot less heartache and hard feelings with that then what you two are scheming.

[MoonLightKiss]

Originally Posted by scott17201

speaking of assholes edison carter is a real big one! you are missing the point. the gf knows about this, so get that straight. the question simpliy was what is the best way to go about this since both are passive and will do it but one would have to start it. thats why i said a few drinks to calm there nerves. most of you here are missing the point.! it is not oh lets get them drunk and take advantage its not that at all. the girls know about this. my gf is willing just wants a few drinks to calm her a bit. so again the question is whats the best way to go about it with 2 passive women. do you go out and get drinks and go dancing then come back to the house? so lets try this again.

Yes, lets try it again since you didn't get it in the posts from above, NOR did you get it in the other thread you started that is almost identical to the OP in this thread.

ALL four of you need to sit down and have an ADULT AND SOBER conversation before trying to manipulate the girls into playing. IF AND WHEN the four of you can do this, then and only then will you be able to have this with no regrets from any interested parties. I understand wanting a couple of drinks to calm the nerves. But there is a big difference between NEED and WANT. The best way to go about it with two passive women is to again, have an ADULT AND SOBER conversation with the four of you.

Also, you need to be considering the issue of playing with friends like biloxicouple said. I am understanding that the four of you are friends. These types of situations have been known to make friends feel so weird with each other that they are not friends anymore. That needs to be taken into consideration. Venturing into the swinging world you are going to make mistakes. Do you really want to make them with friends and destroy a friendship? I live by the rule of don't play with friends. I would rather have them as friends then playmates.

Now, as far as Edison being an asshole...don't think so. If anything they are far from being assholes. What you need to understand is that many times here we get guys who come here asking us how to get their women drunk so they can get them to do what they want. And your OP sounded alot like those posts. IF your gf is aware of everything without your pushing it on her everyday then that is between you and your girlfriend. But you must understand you are not going to find anyone here worthwhile that is going to support getting someone drunk with the intention of getting them to do things they normally wouldn't. To many of us that is little more than manipulation and coersion (hope I spelled that right). We do not support that.

Not saying that is what you are doing, I am saying that is what your original post sounded like. Just make sure you are being completely honest, open supportive and kind. The biggest rule is NO means NO. Then you will find support here. But when the OP sounds more like "I want my gf to do this cause its my fantasy, how do i get her drunk enough" rather than "my gf has this fantasy, how can I help her fulfill it" you are gonna get flamed.

[M and H]

M&H

[oddcouple2841]

speaking of assholes edison carter is a real big one! you are missing the point. the gf knows about this, so get that straight. the question simpliy was what is the best way to go about this since both are passive and will do it but one would have to start it. thats why i said a few drinks to calm there nerves. most of you here are missing the point.! it is not oh lets get them drunk and take advantage its not that at all. the girls know about this. my gf is willing just wants a few drinks to calm her a bit. so again the question is whats the best way to go about it with 2 passive women. do you go out and get drinks and go dancing then come back to the house? so lets try this again.

It seems to me that you're getting upset because you asked a question and the answers aren't what your looking for. People on here are giving you their honest opinions and you're taking offense to them. If you don't like what you hear, then don't ask the questions. It's that simple.

I agree with the idea of having a dinner together. That would take the pressure off and it would be ice breaker. A couple drinks would be good, but don't get completely drunk off your ass would not be. There would be a possibility that the 4 of you would regret what you did and take a chance of losing the friendship. I doubt you would want that unless you frankly could care less, then you guys weren't friends to begin with. It would just prove you were out to get what you want and not what your gf wanted.

I suggest that you think long and hard about what you want and what your gf wants. I would talk to your gf and see what she really wants and listen to her. If you are doing this to get your kicks, then I suggest both of you just move on. It will come back and bite you in the ass later.

Mrs

[EvilMJ]

I am going to give you the honest advice of a bifemale.

Question : "how to get 2 girls together for there first time?"

Answer: You can't.

If a woman is truly intersted in participating in any kind of sexual play with another woman she will when she's ready. There is no trick, no drink, nothing that will make it work. If she is generally interested then set up a play date as a couple and let things unfold as they will without any pressure. If the time is right and the stars are all aligned...etc then it will happen. If she is not comfortable, feels pressure, or it just isn't working, then it won't happen. Simple as that.

As others have said, this is the second time you have asked the question. I doubt the advice is going to change much.

[clitology101]

I had two women at the same time. The whole thing worked wonderfully so we did it again the next night. However no girlfriend or significant other was involved so it probably made things a lot easier in terms of jealousy or risk in damaging the relationship.

Both women were friends of mine since highschool, and they were friends of each other as well. One women I had briefly fooled around with, but spent more time just hanging out with her, drinking wine and talking about life - although sex did come up as did the ultimate male fantasy.

The other woman was a friend with benefits (we had fucked a couple of times since we had known each other, but usually one of us was dating someone or we were away from each other at college). We never dated each other because we could be inseperable friends for about three days straight and then I would want to strangle her (not literally), so we would need about two days apart before we started hanging out again.

Well the two of them were out one night sharing a bottle of wine and talking about sex. Then they called me to see if they could tuck me in bed. They tucked themselves in bed with me, each giving me a good night kiss and the rest is something that will still make me smile when I am sitting in an old folks home.

In summary, my suggestion on getting two women in bed:
1. Female friends you have flirted with or slept with, but not significant others.

2. The female friends should know each other.

3. Alcohol might help in making the suggestion seem fun, but don't use so much that their judgment is impaired. Too much alcohol and being too pushy just makes you an ass who is going to loose two friends.

Anyway, hope that helps.

[havefuninsun]

Originally Posted by clitology101

In summary, my suggestion on getting two women in bed:
1. Female friends you have flirted with or slept with, but not significant others.

2. The female friends should know each other.

3. Alcohol might help in making the suggestion seem fun, but don't use so much that their judgment is impaired. Too much alcohol and being too pushy just makes you an ass who is going to loose two friends.

Anyway, hope that helps.

Hmmm ... not so much. In the swing world, we do add a third to a significant other equation.

To answer the OP's question, there's nothing left to say that you've been told. If the girls know you'd love to have them play together, they will if THEY WANT TO. You may be the lucky bastard who gets to participate, you may not.

[sexcupid]

Originally Posted by havefuninsun

To answer the OP's question, there's nothing left to say that you've been told. If the girls know you'd love to have them play together, they will if THEY WANT TO. You may be the lucky bastard who gets to participate, you may not.

One of the single males I used to play with when I was in college summed up a 3some he knew that I was going to be involved in. "Have fun, tell me about it. Wish I was the lucky SOB."

No amount of pushing could have gotten all 3 of us in that bed, but because the other female involved and I talked about it and ultimately determined when it was going to happen...it did.

[scott17201]

both girls have agreed to do it but want to go out and have some drinks and go from there.

[Edison Carter]

So so everyone knows what happened. I emailed him and this was his answer:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edison Carter
Susan here--You never answered whether it all worked out ?

scott17201:
hey its been to busy we havent got together yet. do you have yahoo or aol messenger? if you do message me .

[scott17201]

in response to susan, we have a life she must not. we havent had time to see them or anything since my girlfirend has a kid and its christmas time, we will persue it after the new year.

[Edison Carter]

Can you just imagine this poor girlfriend. He was on a 'mission from God' to get her bagged with another woman and now he's 'delayed' ?! This is soooooooooooo funny.

[scott17201]

some people have lives outside of this lifestlye. can you imagine living with susan? i feel bad for her husband.