how to get 2 girls together for their first time?

[good times]

Originally Posted by Pepper & Drew

Uh huh. Actually, I can't tell you how many times it's been the guy that has "backed out".

I can't even imagine that, they must have been either blind or gay.

[pagan-lovers]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

All four of you - go to dinner - talk about it like adults. Why does this not make perfect sense to you?

What he said.

[MoonLightKiss]

Spoo said it all. If you four are unable to sit down SOBER to discuss it like adults and make the decision while still SOBER, then frankly, you four shouldn't be doing it. Alcohol or not. If you four decide to go ahead with it, THEN and only then should alcohol enter the picture. And sloppy drunk isn't what I mean. A couple of drinks to calm the nerves is one things. Multiple drinks to the point that everything is a yes is over the top.

Plying women with alcohol in an attempt to manipulate them into doing what you want, is not only selfish, but downright wrong. This may not be what you plan to do, just making it clear where I stand on alcohol in general.

Hopefully, the four of you will approach this idea in a correct manner and it will be pleasurable for all.

[Mrs.PaganLovers]

The first time I ever had an experience with another female, I was 19, and I was wasted. I regreted it the next morning, hell I regreted it as soon as it was over. I was young dumb and uptight then. I must say, there have been a couple of times in my life where I was coerced into doing something to please someone else, had to get plastered to do it and,didn't like it.

I am now much older, wiser, very few inhibitions left, whole different mindset. Now I do things that I want to with a clear mind, and no regrets.

Blessings
Mrs. PL

P.S. Spoo, your just killin me with your ideas of lots of jello shots

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by WildMiCouple

You're killin' me LM
Maybe this ought to be in the "How To" section

Brett

Brett ~

Mr LM gave me $300 this morning and sent me shopping...

I spent it all...

I'm now ready to have sex with three women.

LM

[sereneiders]

Scott,

This is the second thread you start to ask the same questions, the same way, without providing any information suporting your "verithing is ok" attitude, involving alcohol and the plans with your buddy, insthead of the plans you have with your GF as a couple.

Did you expected us to change our mind just because this is another thread? Do you plan to keep starting new threads as to get us all tired enough to tell you what you want to hear?

What really amazes me is that you didn't learn not even about the basic social skills. You didn't pay attention to the MONOLITIC advice agaisnt your plans in that thread, not even to figure out you'll face the same solid wall by asking EXACTLY the same question.

At least, you could learn on how to PRETTEND you're nice guy concerned about your GF's feelings. And this is more than enough clue for me that you're focused on your bellybutton, unaware of what other people have to say. If you do this with the people you're granting credit to advice you, what's left for your poor GF?

You'll do what you want to do, and since you didn't invite your GF to participate in the board (as we suggested you to to in the previous thread), we cannot do anything else about it, but feel sorry for her.

I'll wait for your next thread, just to know if you learned something meanwhile.

[oddcouple2841]

This is K

I like alcohol and I like women but give me enough alcohol and get me horizontal and I will probably just go to sleep on ya. The case may be same for your GFs.

Alcohol usually does not make for the best sex. A couple of drinks to loosen things up is great, much more though and people often do and say things they regret in the morning. (or like me just drift off to sleep at the first rest break )

BTW what the heck if the facination with watching two girls together? Perhaps you are thinking more along the lines of an orgy? Maybe you should just suggest that.

[iapr]

Spoomonkey is not being to hard on the guy at all. What Scott17201 is proposing is not swinging at all and is at best a Frat-boy party trick to get some high-fiving at the expense of two unsuspecting women that aren't capable of giving informed consent. Why not just slip them some rohipinol and do what you want and spare them the hang over and regret? At least then they won't know what they did and won't hold it against you.

[iapr]

Here's a better idea than my last post. If you want to see some chcks get it on but have a shread of enough decency that you don't want to hurt you supposed GF why not just catch a flight to Nevada and go to one of those legal brothels. There all you have to do is pull out your credit card and you can get whatever kind of peep show you want and noone gets hurt.

[Edison Carter]

Susan here--First, Scott is an asshole for doing the the whole 'dance , puppets, dance' routine with his girlfriend. Too many men think their gf is just a couple of apple martini's away from taking the 'plunge'. It probably stems from too much time watching soft core porn on Cinemax.

[sereneiders]

Originally Posted by iapr

Spoomonkey is not being to hard on the guy at all. What Scott17201 is proposing is not swinging at all and is at best a Frat-boy party trick to get some high-fiving at the expense of two unsuspecting women that aren't capable of giving informed consent. Why not just slip them some rohipinol and do what you want and spare them the hang over and regret? At least then they won't know what they did and won't hold it against you.

I'd rather preffer the second idea than this one. I agree with you about this guy, he's asking for advice on how to implement his and his budy plans whith these girls, and I believe we shouldn't give him not even a hint, less to appologize a felony. Rohipnol is used this way, it's true, but if he didn't knew, now he does. At this point it would be worth to add, if catched, there will be no one saving his ass from the jail, because that is plain rape. And if mixed with alcohol, it could be really dangerous, he may even kill the gal.

I don't want to be harsh on you, but it's a very different thing to point out how bold and unfit those plans are by means of humor and irony, the way Spoo did, than to actually coach this guy sketching for him on the board a feasible plan to commit a felony.

This is wrong at so many levels. From missleading the curious, umprevented visitor into believe swingers are a bunch of depraved, inmoral fellows, able to do whatever it takes to get some sex, to the fact that this guy (or someone else wanting to rape a woman) may not be aware of the rohipnol until reading this, with the outcome of an actual rape commited with aid provided in this board.

[HappyPeople]

Assuming that everyone is thumbs up but just a little nervous, why not try some sexy games? Try finding some here: http://www.swingersboard.com/forums/...splay.php?f=15

[LOL_OMG]

Manipulation is not a good thing in any lifestyle, in swinging it's a recipe for disaster. The key word of what you propose is manipulation. If your asking a serious question here then it's been answered by more than a few. Talk to the women about it, they will either say yes or no.

Mr. Lol

[scott17201]

speaking of assholes edison carter is a real big one! you are missing the point. the gf knows about this, so get that straight. the question simpliy was what is the best way to go about this since both are passive and will do it but one would have to start it. thats why i said a few drinks to calm there nerves. most of you here are missing the point.! it is not oh lets get them drunk and take advantage its not that at all. the girls know about this. my gf is willing just wants a few drinks to calm her a bit. so again the question is whats the best way to go about it with 2 passive women. do you go out and get drinks and go dancing then come back to the house? so lets try this again.

[BiloxiCouple]

Most of the people here have said stay away from the alcohol, especially at first. Listen to that. Have a dinner, meeting or whatever with everyone involved and be sober until a decision is made as to what is going on. Then have your drinks, however many you want. Ya'll want to drink go ahead. You don't need our permission. You want our advice. There it is.

I love to drink when I go out. Sometimes it is in moderation and sometimes... Woo Hoo!!!. Then the better half takes control of me and tells me right and wrong and drives me home. Have fun and be responsible. Be irresponsible once in a while. Just don't hurt anyone.

And if she says "No", then you need to respect it right away. 'Cause there is going to be a day when you say "No" and you better hope she respects it or shit will hit the fan.

Don't forget the camera

I would also look at other threads here about swinging with friends/co-workers. That's a whole different issue that hasn't even been brought up.