Racism...

[Trace Ekies]

Questions:

If a white woman does not have sex with black men because they are black is that racism?

If a white man wants to have sex with a black woman because she is black is that racism?

Don't read anything into the questions...answer them at face value.

Trace

[Alura]

Years ago in Germany I met a Black Man/White Woman couple who had been married for some years and had three children.

She admitted she was prejudiced against white men because she had always been attracted to black men only. She claimed to have never had sex with a white man although there were "quite a few" black guys who "have tasted me."

"White men just don't do it for me," she said.

I think we were dealing with taste there. Like many of life's decisions, I think she had a right to her choice.

Alura

[VegasLee]

I see no reason to try to turn personal preferences into a racism issue.

I know that is the PC thing to do in America today but is not needed.

I don't like eating frogs legs but that does not mean I hate the French.

Now, after stating all that. There are just some people that are racists and that is the facts of life.

[lardub]

I don't believe it to be racism only preference...
I really enjoy and will seek out women who have small breast, its what does it for me, nothing against large breasted women, small is what I'm attracted to..
The Mrs will veto a play date over hairy men, because they do nothing for her, she finds it unattractive, she makes me shave lol. She will also not play with a male with a large belly (Beer Belly)..
It comes down to what you are attracted to, and nothing is more unattractive than someone playing a race card when that is not the case, we have witnessed it in a club and believe that the reason they were told that play wasn't happening was attitude and the way that person was conducting themselves, nothing more, nothing less, but they decided to make a scene over it ..

[Chicup]

Racism is when you won't have sex with me because of my race.

Choice is when I don't have sex with you because of yours.

[AskMeOk]

Chicup, you are beating a dead horse.

When one makes a decision based solely on race, that is a racially motivated decision. Racism.

Having grown up in the south and heard all of the rationales for racism when I was a kid... I've heard it all before.

It is merely personal preference to enforce white only bathrooms, restaurants, movie theaters, schools, neighborhoods, etc. After all I prefer to only be around white people, just my preference..... and I don't see any need for anybody to turn what is merely a personal preference issue into racism.

Of course, there were a lot of black folks that had a personal preference to not have anything to do with white bathrooms, restaurants, movie theaters, schools, neighborhoods, etc., too.....

I prefer some folks over others, too, and personal preference is reasonable and desirable. However, when preference is drawn exclusive down the lines of race, that isn't personal preference, it is racism.

IME, you will probably never convince a "personal preference" person anything to the contrary....

[willyoats]

There is a difference between preferring blacks because of their race and preferring blacks because of their culture. My wife like to make love with black guys because they are more likely to be more sensual and earthy than whites. That's a strictly cultural characteristic. Her observation is based on several experiences.

My daughter's college room mate started dating black guys. She related the common "wisdom" among her friends that "once you go black, you never go back."

[Coupleerotic22]

Originally Posted by AskMeOk

IME, you will probably never convince a "personal preference" person anything to the contrary....

Conversely, you will probably never convince a "racism everywhere" person that any choice that excludes them is not racist.

Take redheads for example. I have a thing for redheads, I can't explain why, I just think they are hot. Generally, true redheads have fair complexions, which I like, but, I have met a few that were so ghostly white that I was not attracted to them regardless of hair color. Unfortunately, to date I have never had sex with a redhead. Does that make me a racist against the ultra white or is it just a preference?

In was an athlete in college. It is easy to get laid as a "jock." There were always girls, of every color and description, hanging out at the dorms (back then athletes had separate dorms) ready to go at it. The girls flirt and jocks talk, so you got to know most of them very well.

One girl in particular I could never figure out. She was white and had sex with more black athletes than white by a fair margin. I also, knew her from classes we had together. She would always deny liking black guys, never associated with black people and, while not derogatory, never had a good thing to say about blacks.

What was even more strange was we all knew this, but most of the black athletes would still have sex with her because she was smoking hot. "She may be a racist, but she is hot" was something I heard more than once. That one has racial connotations all over it that I have never figured out.

If you think about preference on a sliding scale we all have different levels of preference based on race, hair color, body type and any other characteristic you can think of. Even with in my race I have different levels of preference, or turn-ons, based on characteristics.

In our profile we are both listed as straight, but there is a very small number of women my wife finds attractive enough to want to play with, it's just very very low on her preference scale. I am straight and don't want to play with guys, that does not mean I hate bi's or gays, it is just not my thing. We list no single guys, but on occasion we entertain single guys. We don't mention racial preferences at all, but so far have not met any black or mixed couples we are attracted to, but it doesn't mean we won't. Is that racism? When contacted, we decide if we are interested, if not we have just responded we are not attracted/interested in them, if they take that as racism, it their issue not ours.

In the end racism is always a preference, but preference is not always racism.

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by Coupleerotic22

I have met a few that were so ghostly white that I was not attracted to them regardless of hair color.

How dare you insult my people!











See I love Redheads and I REALLY love ghostly white ones, but not Gingers, Gingers are evil.

[slevin]

There is some science out there around facial cues to attraction. Not the old adage about symmetry being universally attractive though. It is about certain genetic cues about who we are more prone to be attracted to. In general, women I am the most attracted to will have some basic facial similarities. Regardless of race. So in general I'm not attracted to black women, but the few that I am attracted to will likely have some facial similarity to other women I am attracted to (of other races; white, asian, indian etc.)

That is what I would refer to as a preference.

This doesn't do a good enough job explaining the science, but it's better than nothing

Science of Sex Appeal Videos : Attraction : Discovery Channel

[slevin]

Originally Posted by Chicup

See I love Redheads and I REALLY love ghostly white ones, but not Gingers, Gingers are evil.

You subscribe to Kick a Ginger day eh?

'Kick a ginger' day left redheads with legs covered in bruises

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by slevin

There is some science out there around facial cues to attraction. Not the old adage about symmetry being universally attractive though. It is about certain genetic cues about who we are more prone to be attracted to. In general, women I am the most attracted to will have some basic facial similarities. Regardless of race. So in general I'm not attracted to black women, but the few that I am attracted to will likely have some facial similarity to other women I am attracted to (of other races; white, asian, indian etc.)

That is what I would refer to as a preference.

This doesn't do a good enough job explaining the science, but it's better than nothing

Science of Sex Appeal Videos : Attraction : Discovery Channel

In a nut shell most people are most attracted to a certain characteristics that are like them but not TOO like them. There are even links with IHC (immunohistocompatibility) markers. Basically we can 'smell' how genetically alike we are and if its too alike or too foreign we don't find them attractive.

[Coupleerotic22]

Originally Posted by Chicup

How dare you insult my people!

See I love Redheads and I REALLY love ghostly white ones, but not Gingers, Gingers are evil.

Lol, I am with you on Gingers, for a number of reasons. I just prefer at least a little color, vampires don't rock my world. Fortunately for me, most redheads don't fall into the Ghost/vampire category.

[Pensacolapair]

Originally Posted by Trace Ekies

Questions:

If a white woman does not have sex with black men because they are black is that racism?

If a white man wants to have sex with a black woman because she is black is that racism?

Don't read anything into the questions...answer them at face value.

Trace

Okay - I'll bite. IMO..yes to both. Not reading into the questions and going on face value (using just what info is provided):

"If a white woman does not have sex with black men because they are black is that racism?" In this case, the fact that the man is black is the only reason he is excluded from consideration. Nothing else is even put in the equation. If it were a pictureless profile that had no other info than "I am a black male", she has all the info she needs to eliminate him from consideration. He could in fact look like Hugh Jackman with a good tan - she could care less because he checks that block on the census that says 'black'.

"If a white man wants to have sex with a black woman because she is black is that racism?" Again - The only reason he wants to have sex with her is because she is black. If it's a pictureless profile that had no other info other than "I am a black woman", she has his attention. She could in fact look like Rosie O'Donnell with a good tan and he'll still consider her.

Both meet the criteria for 'racist' - Exclusion or inclusion based on race alone.

M

[Alura]

Originally Posted by Chicup

See I love Redheads and I REALLY love ghostly white ones, but not Gingers, Gingers are evil.

All right, Chicup, at the risk of sounding undereducated, what's a "ginger?"

Alura