Bartering sex?

[J&RNNJ]

A friend of ours who is in the plumbing business told us an interesting story over the weekend. Seems someone who works for the same company revealed that he has been the single male for a couples MFM fantasies for about a year now. It started when he was at the house fixing a problem. The couple basically offered up the threesome in return for the work. We were wondering if anyone has done this, is doing this or what the thoughts are. Strangely enough, he does not know about our interests, and since he is a long time friend of ours he helps out for free, seems he may be missing out...

[spectraschain]

Not exactly....but I've an uncle who owned a service station....literally "screwed" himself out of business.

[lovinher]

Sounds like the first porn movie I saw when I was a kid.

I have been an electrician for almost 30 years now and when I was working out in the field there were a few instances where it could have gone that way. At least that is what my ego was telling me. I had a lady, knowing I was coming, answer the door in a see through nighty and all done up with make up. She was much older than me and not very attractive. Another time a woman walked around the house in VERY see through, low cut pajamas in the middle of the day. Another woman showed up on the job in a red sun dress that was about as see through as you can get, extremely flirtatious and very touchy-feely. I had to keep telling myself "I love my wife, I love my wife, I love my wife". When talking to her I didn't know what to look at. The sky? The ground? A pair of sun glasses would have been nice. I also had a couple ask me several times if I wanted to cool off in the pool after "working so hard". I was working inside with air conditioning!

So, it does happen and more than you think.

[HotMoCpl]

Back in the 80's I worked as a cable tv installer an as a telephone repairman. All those stories we've heard about the mail man and the milk man....I'd have to guess might be true.

[lurkergirl]

Ha, I had to respond to this one! I barter for anything I think I can get away with. My mechanic looks forward to fixing my car these days, he always gets a bay open for me immediatley, and I'm trying my best to find someone willing to do a little "trading" for getting my heat pump installed. There's nothing quite like getting what I want, and then getting what I want again to pay for it!

[Chip_n_Muffy]

I have the exact opposite take on it. Not only would I not barter my services for sex, I don't work for playmates or potential playmate even for full pay. I consider it real bad mojo to combine work and play. I can just hear the comment now .... "What do you mean it's gonna cost XXX.xx dollars for a brake job? My wife gave you a blowjob at the club last weekend!" In my opinion, business and fun should be kept totally separate.

Sex don't pay the bills.

Chip

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by Chip_n_Muffy

I have the exact opposite take on it. Not only would I not barter my services for sex, I don't work for playmates or potential playmate even for full pay. I consider it real bad mojo to combine work and play. I can just hear the comment now .... "What do you mean it's gonna cost XXX.xx dollars for a brake job? My wife gave you a blowjob at the club last weekend!" In my opinion, business and fun should be kept totally separate.

Sex don't pay the bills.

Chip

Hehe I've had the same feelings about it.

Now we do have some swinging friends who this wouldn't be an issue for, but thats because we have known them long enough that they wouldn't be charged for it in any case.

[ShellyM]

I agree with Chicup and Chip_and_Muffy.
Not judging. But if I'm telling the truth it would make me feel cheap, almost like a prostitute. I'm blowing this guy for a brake job is what I would be thinking. That is just my personal opinion, of course what other people do is up to them and fine with me. But I would never pay for any "services" with sex. Getting what I want is good, but not when the price I have to pay for it is my self respect.
JMO,
Shell

[NaughtyDelight]

Originally Posted by Chip_n_Muffy

I have the exact opposite take on it. Not only would I not barter my services for sex, I don't work for playmates or potential playmate even for full pay. I consider it real bad mojo to combine work and play. I can just hear the comment now .... "What do you mean it's gonna cost XXX.xx dollars for a brake job? My wife gave you a blowjob at the club last weekend!" In my opinion, business and fun should be kept totally separate.

Sex don't pay the bills.

Chip

Our feelings as well

ND

[Darkblue]

Sorry but if you barter for sex than thats nothing different to being a hooker!! he/she could give you cash for your services and then you could give it back to them to pay the bill!! all you have done is cut out the exchange of cash!!!

No offence to anyone this is just my interpretation of what i have read...

Steve

[Cpl2share]

We agree with the majority of the other responses. Sex don't pay the bills. There have been many times when I could have received sex instead of cash, but there were two things that stopped me: 1) Sex don't pay the bills; 2) I would never cheat on Mrs. Cpl. Of coarse, Mrs. Cpl is not above bartering sex for what she wants. With ME. Many is the time that she has traded sex with me for things that she wants. Now those things have cost me money, but we did both get what we wanted and IMHO, I got the best end of the deal (pun intended.)

[lurkergirl]

No offense taken...everyone has a right to feel and think the way they do, and perhaps I didn't quite get the spirit of what I was saying across

My mechanic also purchases things from my warehouse, and we never set prices on his services or my stuff, it's more of a fun, mutual agreement. He'll tell me what he's got tied up in parts, or I'll tell him how much I've got tied up in product, we'll cover materials in cash, and then just grin at each other and head off to a private spot to trade out our "profit". Neither one of us are trying to cut the other out of what we have to get back out of what we do, but neither one of us is concerned with making money off the other either, we'd rather just have a few minutes of fun in exchange for our work. Sure, we could just pay each other the going rates for what we do or sell, and then take the cash and go do something fun elsewhere, but why bother, when we'd just as soon do it this way and it's mutually enjoyable for everyone?

As for self-respect, if it weren't a situation that I was in control of, I might feel badly about it, but there's very little out there that I could do sexually that would make me feel negatively about myself, as long as it's my decision.

And, not to hijack the thread, but simply as an aside (and perhaps I should start a new thread on it), but I've never understood the negative implications behind the concept of prostitution. You can trade your skills as a typist, doctor, pizza boy, gas pump jockey, cabinet maker, bank teller, sales clerk, etc, for cash, but if you trade skills that involve your genitalia for cash, it's different? Other that the law of the land stating that it's wrong, I can't see the difference. I'm quite sure that that statement will draw some fire, but I enjoy a good debate, so have at it. Other than the knee-jerk reaction of "ooh, that's bad, and those must be bad men and women that do it", what reasons do you all have for your negative reactions?

I'm not being confrontational or smart-alecky with the question, I'm genuinely interested in hearing your responses. I find other peoples reactions and feelings on the subject fascinating. And, before anyone goes on a tangent about it let's go ahead and get it out of the way, yes, I know that this is a swinger's forum and that prostitution has no place in the swinging lifestyle. I'm not asking how you would feel about hookers in your bedroom, just what your logical reasons are for any negative feelings you have about the concept of prostitution in general.

I'm sure that my outlook on it is different from the norm, due to having spent several years as an adult entertainer. I tend not to put a lot of emotional attachment on sexual acts, and having made a living off simulating them while I was in my twenties has given me less of a sense of stigma to the whole concept of "paying to play". Anything I do sexually is simply something I do for fun, just like some people fish, watch tv, or throw frisbees.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and thanks to those of you who will respond (even those of you who will flame me for it, as I value your right to your opinions also). And if I'm still unclear in anything I've said, please let me know and I'll see if I cant clarify my responses further.

[ShellyM]

I enjoyed reading the last post, especially the part of why prostitution is seen in such a negative light. See, the problem with prostitutes is that its a job. Its their job, like you and I go to the office. So there are no feelings of conscience. Not in regards to how the woman feels about herself mind you...I'm talking about the fact that the vast majority of men who hire prostitutes are married and cheating on their spouses. Not okay in swinging, and not okay in the vanilla world in my opinion. Now. You take a state like Nevada, where it is legal in certain venues from what I understand. The women are mandatorily tested. If you are going to use a prostitute I would say go to one of those facilities. However, on the streets of any given city a prostitute is usually a poor woman, usually on drugs, who is treated like property. I don't know. Everyone has their own opinions. I do not like it when women allow themselves to be used like chattel. Exotic dancers I love, those women work their butts off. They get a man horny, he goes home to his wife and they have a great experience.
Shelly

[rpu3]

I don't think there is a problem with prostitution, personally. If that's how one wants to make their money, that's their business just like my job is my business (and I'm well aware I'm essentially selling myself to my employer - services for a paycheck). Legalize it already, just like Nevada, Netherlands, Denmark, and other cities have. Making it a crime just leaves the profession rife with drugs, disease and many women losing most of their money to a pimp.

Originally Posted by ShellyM

See, the problem with prostitutes is that its a job. Its their job, like you and I go to the office.

Some of us who go to the office enjoy what we do at the office. I love my job 80% of the time, cube farm and all. Why would prostitution (and I'm actually talking in the legalized form as seen in Nevada in this instance) be much different? I've seen many an interview of women that work at facilities like The Bunny Ranch say that they love sex, and they love their job, and how nice that they can make money doing what they like.

Other people simply go to work, do their job, and go home (and perhaps hate every single minute of it). I'm not sure how the "problem with prostitutes" is that they may actually treat it in the same way - as a job. Both groups are doing it for the paycheck.

Some prostitutes may love it, some may hate it, some are indifferent - just like in regular life. Personally, I don't see it as a problem but more a reflection of the general population.

[ShellyM]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not personally attacking a prostitute. However. Alot of these women are almost slaves. You have to understand, these are not women like you and I. We are educated, independent women who have a say in our lives. These women usually are desperate. They come from poor families usually (I'm not talking about ladies in places like the Ranch or "escorts". I'm talking about the poor lady on the corner trying to make a buck) and are usually addicted to drugs. Alot of them are basically slaves almost to pimps that beat the hell out of them and treat them like dirt. So when I say its "bad" I'm not talking about the ladies. I mean, and you have to admit, that most men who are with them are cheaters. Plain and simple, they are cheating on their wives. It would be hard to believe for me to think that a crack addicted prostitute cares about every man wearing a condom with her.

I say it would be BETTER to legalize it. Then these girls can have not only some protection but also mandatory drug testing. But then you bring up the morality issues.........do we legalize a practice that thrives on cheating husbands?

But no, I have nothing at all against prostitutes, my heart goes out to them.
Shell