Shock Treatment

[Merric]

SHOCK TREATMENT

I know, to cover my sexy ass I’ll trick him into the lifestyle!


DISCLAIMER:
Okay now real time. I have to point out this took me a long time to write. But I also have to point out I did get these instances from purported real life happenings. So whether you believe them or not that’s up to you. And yes here and there I may have taken some artistic license but not so it would change the essential and actual core of the information.

I would also like to point out that my stated reactions to such events here are specifically what my personal reactions to such a thing happening to me would be in the instances and circumstances given And in the course of my telling of these events I have given my reasons why I would react that way to them. I back this up by citing my reactions which many of you are well aware of to my past, live-in-girlfriend and her act of infidelity. For when I caught her cheating she came home to find her clothes in a paper bag on the porch and the locks on the doors changed. End of discussion. And I have to point out even though I was Vanilla to the core at the time that even with now being enlightened and a staunch supporter of the lifestyle. That just the same if I caught my significant other in the arms of another man and it was something she was doing on the sly without having discussed it with me beforehand the results would still be the same because to me cheating is cheating regardless.

However this doesn’t mean all men might react the same way nor is it my intentions to indicate they would. Because as I found in these instances, that in my opinion anyway. And I can’t stress enough that this is only my opinion and not gospel, some men are so cuckolded and pussy whipped by their cheating wife they will stick it out with her regardless. Again I must stress this is only my opinion. So don’t tell me “no you’re wrong on that account” because again I’m not stating it as being a fact or gospel but only as being my personal opinion, which is something we are all entitled to. And no man is ever wrong in his opinion because his opinion is just as valid as any other man’s is. And yes that is gospel.

Quite naturally however you are perfectly welcome to state your own opinion but not flat out take mine from me and say it’s wrong. Anymore than I can take yours from you and say it’s wrong. Because if you haven’t figured it out by now a man’s opinion is purely a personal thing that applies only to him and those people who happen to agree with him. So honest if you have a contrary opinion to share then please share it with the audience as a whole and not to me personally, because all I’ll do is refer you back to this disclaimer then staunchly stand by my feelings and opinion. Because sure as poop someone’s going to say “well the husband went along with his wife despite her cheating because he’s captivated by her beauty.” Or “come on can’t you see after her cheating all his wife was trying to do was share something wonderful with him.” Or oh, oh what’s that other one? Oh yes here it is “he went along with his wife on this even though she cheated on him repeatedly because of his deep love for her.”

Now of course these are also quite valid opinions. While regardless they all just the same still translate to me personally that he’s a spineless, cuckolded wimp who’s incapable of standing up to his wife. So again to avoid being referred back to this disclaimer if you have a contrary opinion then again please address it to the readers of this forum as a whole and not to me individually, Because honest you aren’t going to get me to change my mind or opinion on the matter so better to just let everyone as a whole know your feelings concerning the subject.

Oh and by the way I’m responsible for writing this particular version and the interviewer is my fictitious creation designed to pre-answer questions many might have while reading this. He’s also tossed in to provide a little comedic relief from what I would consider to be a matter of seriousness.

Now onwards


“I understand there are ways one spouse, usually to my understanding the wife, has used to trick her husband into becoming a swinger. What are some of these ways?”

I’m glad you asked because I actually find these shock treatment techniques that are usually applied by a wife and her lovers against a completely trusting and ignorant husband to be absolutely despicable. So henceforth in these instances I will use the “wife” as villain, while now reminding everyone husbands probably use similar ways to get their wives sucked into this. It’s just so far I haven’t found any such instances.


Anyway these are manipulative, deceitful and downright evil ways and means a wife sometimes uses to get her Vanilla husband to accept she is a slut who for some time now has been regularly cheating on him. So I will pass the ones I know of on only as a means to warn primarily Vanilla men everywhere so hopefully they will not be taken for a ride and conned into them.

“But wait a minute. I thought you were a staunch supporter of the Lifestyle?”

“I am. But there is a very big difference between your wife talking openly and honestly about swinging with you. Or instead her going on and doing it without you, then manipulating, setting you up, then pushing, shoving or tricking you into it whether you want it or not wouldn’t you agree?”

Yes I see. So by what means then is it one spouse uses to as you say “coerce” the other into swinging?”

Well first on the list there is primary shock treatment, something that though severe, can be effective. While in all facts of these instances this first noted method in the end is the most honest among them. Even though it only got that way through a long time of dishonest infidelity on her part beforehand.

At any rate this is a ”you can accept what I’m doing or not, because either way I don’t care and am going to keep on doing it regardless” approach. And it can happen in many ways as explained in the following instances. However in this one as I say is probably the most honest of them, the wife will generally just plain and simple tell her husband that rather than spending nights out with the girls as she’s been telling him that actually she’s been frequenting swingers clubs while posing as a single woman. While then as he’s left in shock she’ll tell him he’s welcome to join in if he wants to. Or else if not then he can take any course of action he wants. And believe it or not sometimes the husband will, in my opinion anyway, stupidly do anything to keep his mate rather than get a divorce. So with feeling he has no choice left him considering her ultimatum he falls prey and joins in. While as for me I’d choose the divorce.”


“But what if he finds himself pleasantly surprised and finds he actually likes the lifestyle?”

‘Ach, but that’s not the point is it. I mean would you seriously want to remain with a woman who did such a thing to you? Cheated on you for God knows how long behind your back and then threw such a thing in your face. I mean it’s obvious just from her ultimatum she doesn’t care the least little bit about your feelings and as far as she’s concerned she can take you or leave you, so why would you want a woman like that around you?”

“Umn, well yes I can see what you mean.”


Okay here’s another trick. Um henceforth I will use the Lifestyle term of Vanilla to describe monogamous, also known as straight.

Now here we have a pair of women who are good friends. And as it happens one of them along with her husband is a swinger. So it’s while talking to her Vanilla friend she somehow lets it slip she and her husband are practicing members of the lifestyle. Where then interested the Vanilla wife questions the swinging wife. Then decides she also would like to swing, but that her thoroughly Vanilla husband would never go for it.

So here’s what happens now. If the Vanilla husband has yet to meet his wife’s friend’s lifestyle husband, then the wives soon see to it they are introduced. While then afterwards they see to it everybody gets to be quite close. And this is so by the time they are finished they are even all traveling places together, dinners, vacations, movies. All followed usually and fairly often by subtle sexual suggestions by the wife of the swinging couple which the Vanilla husband usually just takes as spontaneous humor because she works it in so well.

Well it’s after a proper amount of nurturing the relationship is ready for the regal treatment. The couples might then get together at some private getaway. Say at a ski lodge or something. Where then as they settle in for the night, say after opening a bottle of wine. Well then either the man or the woman of the lifestyle couple or the probably by now ex-Vanilla wife who’s in on the conspiracy would suggest after their long day they all need showers. Either that or the lifestyle wife would take the Vanilla husband out for some errand. Say off to get some chips and dip or to the ice machine to get some ice for drinks. So are you getting the picture yet? Okay so there the swinger wife is with the Vanilla husband on this fools errand. As meanwhile the poor Vanilla guy’s wife is left alone with what he thinks is a “friend.” And with having no real reason not to trust his wife or his “friend” to do anything wrong he goes comfortably along with his “friend’s wife to complete whatever task they set out to do.

Now here’s where the swinger wife starts to work her charms on the Vanilla husband and playing to his libido. And she does this until she’s certain he’s really hot and bothered while promising him if they weren’t already married she’d have his pants around his ankles toot sweet.

Now when she’s certain she has him primed and tells him she’d love to try something naughty with him they arrive back at the room. Where upon entering when the lights are clicked on guess what? It’s surprise because the Vanilla husband’s wife is in the sack balling his “friend” being the lifestyle husband of the wife he’s just stepped into the room with. While then if he doesn’t have a heart attack or explode in a cloud of fury he would also find his “friend’s” wife quickly stripping and telling him to just enjoy the show. While then in no time flat her hand would be down his pants, and he would be standing there with someone else's wife getting ready to suck on his cock while he’s watching his wife with her legs wide apart and his “friend” in between them fucking the daylights out of her.

The results? Well what he does with the situation for me is immaterial. Either he caves in and succumbs or in a misguided idea he can stick it equally to his wife by fucking his “friend’s “wife, when all he’s really doing is confirming his wife has the power to cuckold him doesn’t matter to me. Because in exposing her infidelity to him that is exactly as per the Encarta ® World English Dictionary what she is doing to him. While for me I’d simply become a sensibly angered man. Where then recovered from the shock after shoving my “friend’s” wife on her ass and zipping up my pants I might in my justifiable rage kick the shit out of my once supposed ‘friend.” Where then after cussing out my wife I would with great legitimacy stalk off to the comfort of my lawyer’s office and file for divorce.


Ow , so you would not even be willing to give it a try then?


What’s to try? Your wife and supposed “friends” have just gone to great lengths to force you into something they want you to accept despite whatever your feelings on the matter might be. All of which at no time did they even bother or attempt to find out except through this “take it or leave it” means of shock treatment. So for me I left it. And sorry but with a wife and friends like that, well then who needs enemies. Uh, uh, so for me it’s time to ditch that underhanded and conniving wife who’s probably been fucking this lifestyle guy for some time now under the urgings of his lifestyle wife. While then considering what she and they did to try and force me into it why would I want such lying, cheating, devious and diabolical people around me? So indeed I would get that divorce. While as to the “friends” hope I never see them again. And for that matter they better hope they never see me again either.

Well what was the earlier mention about “all needing showers?”


Same thing, Only instead of going out for something with his “friend’s” wife the Vanilla husband steps out of the shower to find his wife in bed balling his “friend” and his “friend’s wife naked and waiting for him.” A real smack in the face and kick in the balls by the wife who’s point blank telling him by her actions “as you can plainly see I’m doing this with or without you so you can either suck it up and fuck this guy’s wife who’s ready and waiting for you. Or else you can get a lawyer.” So as for me because of reasons already stated I’ll take wupping my false friend’s ass, cussing out my cheating wife then getting the lawyer. And shit, I hope first before all that, I have captured her screwing the guy on digital. Gotta remember to grab the camera first!”

Wow well on the one hand I do have to agree with you these intrigues can apparently run pretty deep alright.

That’s not the half of it. Get a load of this one.

Another tact of the swinger’s wife will be to get the Vanilla husband of the interested Vanilla wife to become say “bowling buddies” with her lifestyle husband. Then too some of the other male swingers of her acquaint who they might hang with as friends. Maybe with the Vanilla husband’s secretly “I’m interested in swinging” Vanilla wife even giving her man a nod of approval when he goes out for a night on the town with the “boys.” And especially if he lets her know they might be going to a strip club. While to his probable surprise the “boys” will let him know he should be honest and let his wife know where he is going.

Taking their advice and telling his wife he will then probably be even more surprised to find she approves, then tells him “there is nothing wrong with seeing a little strange nookie now and then.” While when he gets home from his little night on the town with the “boys” he might be even more surprised to find his wife wants to hear all about it. While then when she’s got him hot and bothered from his storytelling she will get him into bed. So it is then over time as she and her fellow conspirators the “boys” do this the Vanilla husband starts subconsciously associating sexual things he experiences outside the marriage as being something that turns her on and she approves of. Clever of them eh? While then after that one thing will usually lead to another, until, eventually, one of the unknown-to-him lifestyle men he hangs with will announce a bachelor party for one of the other men of their “bowling” group. Usually a man whose wife the Vanilla husband has yet to meet playing the part of the bachelor.

With this he also on the QT lets the Vanilla husband know the party will be held at a time when all their wives think they are off on a bowling tour or fishing trip or whatever.

The bottom line being as far as the Vanilla husband is concerned he believes his wife thinks he’s away and won’t be back for a couple of days. Something to his mind that leads him to believe that just because he slips off to what he sees as being a harmless bachelor party he will be in the clear. And hey, then too even if he confesses to his wife he’s going to a friend’s bachelor party. I mean what’s the harm right, she’s already approved with gusto and rewards of sex his going to nudie bars. So what’s a bachelors party where at the most to his feelings with knowing the “boys” porn movies might be shown.

However on his arrival he finds it’s much more because a hip, high stage has been built. While then as the booze flows and the attending “bachelor” is jeered about his upcoming loss of freedom when he ties the knot. The Vanilla husband finds himself drinking and settling in with the rest of the guys to watch these really great looking, erotically dressed and exotically masked strippers the “boys” hired. Lights would be turned low but each stripper would go all the way, winding up by gyrating nude for the group.

And quite naturally by this time, everyone is a little tipsy and horny because already another girl is dancing, followed by a third, a fourth a fifth and even a sixth. While as guessed after each girl finishes she comes and sits in a man’s lap then starts rubbing his crotch, all that is except for the Vanilla husband because they are one stripper short. Where then as zippers are lowered and penises appear there is a round of blowjobs the Vanilla husband is stuck helplessly watching.

Ah but now comes the pièce de résistance for the last stripper gives the most tantalizing dance of all. Where then all her clothes shed she makes the hip, high stage the women all danced on her bed, then lays on her back and offers her wide-open, clean shaven snatch to the men for fucking.

One by one, the men approach and take a turn screwing the main attraction. While then with everyone being highly charged several climax inside her. While then others would position her head backward; hanging it over the edge of the stage so she can throat fuck one guy while being pussy fucked by another.

Where then with men being men, especially with the Vanilla husband probably being fairly intoxicated and very highly aroused since he was odd man out on the blowjobs which he was compelled to watch. He might easily under the light, hearted insistence and “guidance” of his “friends” be coerced into taking a turn with the naked masked dancer and plunge his manhood into her now sperm filled cunt.

Ah but now things have grown quiet as at the height of passion she takes another load in her mouth, then in her cunt. While at the moment of the Vanilla husband’s ejaculation into her the other dancers have begun removing their masks and yes wigs to reveal that actually they are the wives of his friends. While then the woman he’d just blown his load into as so many before him would remove her mask. Where then raising her head she would smile at her dumbfounded and flabbergasted Vanilla husband. Because you see as planned with the Vanilla husband’s intoxication and overexposure to so much eroticism the wives' wigs and masks made for such good distractions there was no way he could have recognized them. Nor would he have any way of knowing it was his own wife at the center of the gang bang. Especially since his wife before always had nicely a furred crotch. Though afterwards he would definitely realize he'd been had. Because he certainly couldn’t get angry at his wife for having balled all his supposed “friends” right in front of him could he? I mean after all in his ignorant belief he’d been fucking a stripper he is actually and truly every bit as guilty of infidelity as his wife. So what choice does he have but to admit he’s been caught red handed with his hand in the cheaters cookie jar and join in? Because now with the way things are he certainly can’t sue his wife for divorce on the grounds of infidelity can he? Because technically with the witnesses present who will certainly side with her she could probably counter sue him on the same grounds.

Whoa! Well that does make the head spin now doesn’t it, so tell me then what your reaction would be at this bachelor’s party?

Well again this is shock treatment so it does make the head spin. While if it was me at the bachelor party? All I can say is I hope I would have what it takes to just say no to strange pussy. At least that’s what I hope. I mean say, if I was able to pull up that much moral fiber and stay faithful to my wife that would really be a double whammy punch to her breadbasket wouldn’t it? Especially since she’s lying right there in front of me with all those other guys’ sperm leaking out of her cunt. I can’t help but wonder how she’d see herself then when she realized no matter what I’d always been completely faithful to her. Would it get her thinking how much she’d really wronged me, or how much my eventual finding out about her was really going to hurt me? Would it maybe even get her to turn over a new leaf and call it quits with her cheating?

Who can say?

Ah but who am I kidding right? I’m a man with a man’s weakness and being intoxicated with my testosterone nozzles turned on and running full blast from all the erotica, even though I might resist there’s still a good chance because of my running wild hormones I’d slip up and fall down the path of infidelity. Or should I say be shoved down it, because for sure after all that effort no one’s going to let me walk away any too easily.

However for certain after or if I succumbed and the masks came off I’d still immediately tell my wife as far as I was concerned we were divorced. While then in turning to leave if she tried to tell me I’d been just as wrong as her in having sex with what I took to be a stranger I would point blank have to agree with her, because yes she would be right, for truly. I was being unfaithful when I fucked what I took to be a party girl stripper. But just the same it took her and all our supposed “friends” a lot of hard work to set me and the entire situation up and get me there didn’t it? Because without them and their evil intrigues to validate my wife’s prior and immediate cheating and suck me in the instance otherwise never would have presented itself would it?

Now this doesn’t excuse my “in my heart, if not in reality” infidelity. But because they went to such incredible lengths to make it happen it did. So again in the end with a wife like that who’s obviously been cheating on me for some time and friends like that, well then once more who needs enemies? Looks like I already had them in abundance busy setting me up for a great big fall and I didn’t even know it. So regardless that I was every bit as wrong as her it would be divorce. Because in the end I can’t see staying with someone you can’t trust who behind your back has been sticking it to you for God knows how long and who then would go to such exorbitant ends to set you up to then deliver that final and ultimate kick in the nuts that lets you know what she’s been up to. While again I’d like to point out none of these traps has anything at all to do with the vast majority of swinger’s credo of absolute honesty and open communication. But rather these traps are all dedicated to acts of treachery. Mostly it seems as pointed out to cover the woman’s ass and absolve her from her acts of infidelity by suckering in her husband.

Ouch!


Yes agreed. Anyway care to hear about another of these traps so you can be forewarned? After all forewarned is forearmed eh?

Well yes. Jeeze I mean now I’m wondering if there might not be an ulterior motive to the Tupperware party my wife asked me to take her to.

Well if it turns out there are other men there since Tupperware parties are usually a women only thing I’d certainly be suspicious. While then too if you’re the only man there and the women suggest playing some “truth or dare” or “strip poker” take it as a probable sign your wife is leading up to something. Or more likely has already been involved in it for some time now and is trying to break you in to the fact she’s been unfaithful and wants you to change your ways whether you want to or not then join her. Where should you find yourself giving in and condoning her infidelities as per the Encarta ® World English Dictionary definition you’ll be making a cuckold of yourself. Though of course that would be up to you though I can see you are none to happy with the idea.”

“No I’m not to keen on the idea at all and hope this really is nothing but a Tupperware party she wants me to take her to. Ah crap now I’m wondering though about those few times I’ve come home expecting her to be there and finding her absent.”

Well it’s not my intention here to cast any undue suspicions on your wife so the best thing I can suggest is to take it for granted she’s faithful to you and on the up and up unless it’s proved otherwise. I mean honest, just because a few women might be this devious doesn’t mean they all are agreed?’

“Well yeah you’re probably right. Although now I rather wish I wouldn’t have accepted to do this interview. I mean sheesh the mind boggles.”

Yes I agree. I mean I was pretty flabbergasted when I learned these things as well. And speaking of “the mind boggles” here’s another major method of an interested Vanilla wife and her swinger cohorts is to get her Vanilla husband involved at a party which he has no idea is full of swingers. And this is because like in past examples here the Vanilla wife made an extra effort over time to introduce her husband to “new friends”. Then with these new “friends” would encourage his participation in social events like having them over for dinner, cards, games or outings. While as with the aforementioned instances as always, the relationships would take time to develop. Time well spent from the viewpoint of the by now well indoctrinated and multiple partner fucked, swinger interested, Vanilla wife in making the Vanilla husband more comfortable and trusting of everyone.

It would be during this party time with the Vanilla husband’s trust long since gained so his guard is down the wives of the group would work on him through the course of the evening by teasingly exposing more of their anatomy. While with all of them becoming increasingly intoxicated the husbands would show their consent of the actions by laughing like it was all nothing but good clean fun.

Nothing would come of it though because the time is not yet right. But eventually, the time would come with the Vanilla husband’s constant exposure to such looseness that when three to four couples would gather for an evening of entertainment at some one's house. Meaning of course the Vanilla husband and his more than likely by now ex-Vanilla wife would be there too. Where then after some initial drinks, the conversation would be turned to sex, a couple of stories would be told, and someone would tell of a game they played where each person would be required to tell either a true sexual adventure, or concoct one for everyone's enjoyment. The challenge would be to then guess if the tale was a real or fabricated story.

The deceit would begin by everyone writing down some act that losers would have to perform in front of the group if they got the question wrong and became entirely naked. More about that to come. Now all participants had to understand they were to write outrageous sex acts with the men writing the things for the wives to do, and vice versa.

Naturally everyone has to agree on their honor to do these things quickly and enthusiastically when the time came, no matter what.

Now to my findings considering the nature of the game the Vanilla husband, because he is a man by nature is usually quite curious about such a game. But just the same will usually believe his wife will be appalled at the idea while then he really doesn’t want to see her engaged in such a thing anyway.

Well boy is he surprised when she jumps forward with a sexy, playful, and challenging yes. And sure he might be a little confused and even shocked. While then with her encouragement and urgings from the rest of his “friends” to participate, his mood usually changes. And this mostly because of simple peer pressure and not wanting to seem the “odd man” out and only dissenting voice. While naturally the alcohol everyone has been feeding him plays a great part in this.

So then the trap is set. After all, what intoxicated man can resist what seems to be a lighthearted sexual challenge among friends, especially when it’s put to him by everyone including his wife? And especially when in his heart he doesn’t actually believe anything will really come of it.

The game would start with everyone getting comfortable on the floor with big pillows and blankets, and the first storyteller would write down the correct answer true or fabricated on a piece of paper before standing in the center of the circle or in front of the assemblage then telling their story. If the group correctly guessed the result, the storyteller would have to remove a piece of clothing and down a shot of booze. While if the group was incorrect as a whole, then they all would down a shot of alcohol and remove a piece of clothing.

So anyway as the game goes on especially with all the booze, moods changed quickly as the stories are rapidly fabricated and the subjects get hotter. So by the end of every story, at least some one is getting drunker, and more clothes are being discarded.

The first person to shed all their clothes is then required to choose from the appropriate list of loser prizes earlier written then perform whatever item is written on the paper. These papers being in a box marked “cunts” which the women would draw from and a box marked “cocks” which the men would draw from. So by now the tension is high, but with everyone gleefully playing along including the Vanilla husband’s wife, happy as larks, and openly teasing each other to make the mood more relaxed that during the storytelling and stripping, wives start fondling their husbands. While then when things get looser still they start fondling other husbands as the husbands fondle back all in good fun. So by the time the first person is naked, enough groping has taken place that the Vanilla husband in his intoxication and looseness might just be wondering how far this might go and if he shouldn’t be getting him and his wife out of there.

But hey everyone seems okay with it and his wife does seem to be all right with it too. So because of that pressure he doesn’t’ really want to be the fusswudget and party pooper. While just the same what he really doesn’t know is she’s been okay with it for some time and getting it for as long as well.

Of course, the whole game is rigged, and the first to be stripped is one of the other wives who displays herself in a sexy pose, then chooses her prize from the box marked "cunts."

Now these lists of acts the Vanilla husband believes to be what they had all individually set to paper are of course not. They’ve all been replaced with devised sex acts that were written earlier.

Now as to what the lists include it’s usually something like the following.

From the box marked CUNTS

1. While blindfolded, pick out your husband using only your mouth on his cock, and then suck your choice to completion while the stories continue.

2. While blindfolded, pick out your hubby using only your snatch, and then fuck your choice to completion while the stories continue.

3. Choose any two males in the room, and bring them to climax using any two body orifices of your choice.

4. Lay back and take on every man in the place until they’ve all had an orgasm in one of your orifices.

5. Select two men, extract and drink two loads of cum from a glass.

COCKS

1. While blindfolded, pick out your wife using only your tongue on her pussy, and then eat your selection to climax while the stories continue.

2. While blindfolded, pick out your wife using only your prick in her pussy, and then fuck your selection while the stories continue.

3. Choose any two females in the room, and bring them to climax without the use of your hands.

4. Fuck the girl to your right, then eat your cum from her pussy till she climaxes.

5. Reverse gangbang time. Put on a cock ring and bring all the women to climax before cumming in your own glass and drinking it with a shot chaser.

After picking one of these from the “cunts” box whichever husband’s wife had done so would jump right in performing like she did this all the time, which of course she does. Though it’s something naturally unknown to the Vanilla husband since he still has no idea he’s actually surrounded by swingers. While the Vanilla husband, with not really expecting anyone to actually go through with any of this is shocked to see the woman carrying out the papers instructions on some man other than her husband to say the least.

However at the first sign of any protest or even to ensure he made none he would be immediately grabbed by someone else's wife who will make sure his cock is stiffening at the show. While then his own wife to his probable shock and surprise would smile and give him an approving look to assure him she’s okay with what’s going on.

Just the same if he’s not been shocked out of his drunk with the realizations these things are really happening and by now grabbed his wife and their clothes then gotten the hell out of there. Even though between us and unknown to the poor bastard his wife is already up to her neck in it. So that now even if he does drag her away his marriage is no doubt guaranteed to begin a descent into decay. And this since more than likely his wife is still going to want it. And since cheating on him didn’t bother her before, it isn’t likely going to now, so in all probability she will eventually get caught by him and bam it will be over.

Well anyway if he hasn’t done this and gotten out while the getting’s good. Then the next person would be one of the husbands who would perform in a similar manner, and if the Vanilla husband still hasn’t gotten the idea it’s time to call it quits and leave. Especially when the next “victim” is his wife who just like everyone else at the start of the game was instructed not to hesitate, But to go for it as fast as she could. Well then there the Vanilla husband is stuck with some guy’s wife fondling him then his own wife in front of his eyes fucking or sucking some other man or men just like the paper she picked from “cunts” box instructed. While then if not overcome with anger and outrage he still hasn’t gotten the hell out of there, then haplessly duped he is of course then next one up. Where then feeling his liquor and oats he’ll probably be figuring his best revenge is to subject his wife to some of the same showing of infidelity and promiscuity she subjected him to. Though because of his wife and friends imposed drunkenness on him little does he realize all it’s actually going to do is empower her ability to cuckold him and validate her prior unfaithfulness. Because again in all these instances of shock treatment. that is precisely what the wife has done if the husband goes along with it. And this despite he’s also getting his on the side. Because it still remains his wife has successfully been unfaithful to him on past occasions which by now he must realize and then again right in front of him and then lucratively bent him to her will in accepting it. And this again is the Encarta ® World English Dictionary definition of cuckold.


Anyway, concerning this set up party that was meant to bring the Vanilla husband down in defeat. Well if he hasn’t left now in outrage as I would do, and then headed off to divorce court. Well then with his perhaps being unhappy yet feeling trapped into it involvement. Or again feeling he’s getting some measure of revenge against his wife by parading his equal promiscuity and unfaithfulness in front of her it’s with the full cooperation of everyone he is cheered on. Then taken by every woman in turn since with his complete participation and his wife’s victory as prior arranged among the conspiratorial swingers the game has turned into a free for all. Ahem, anyway for me concerning this scenario once it hit me it was all real and my wife wasn’t wanting to leave then I would probably deduce it wasn’t as foreign a situation to her as I’d earlier thought. While then I’m sure I’d realize that all along I’d been taken for a ride. So I would know it was all over between us the moment she stuck a dick in her mouth or cunt so I would then cop a walk.

Of course because of my drunk I’d take a cab home and sober up first before hitting the Lawyers office and filing my divorce papers. And hey to be fair to any of you Vanilla women out there this might happen to then I hope it helps you as well. Because I’m certain these things can happen to women too. It’s just that through my research I only found instances where it was the women who were trying to cover their ass for their unfaithfulness trying to convert their men to the lifestyle through such skullduggery. Though I have to add if anyone has additional research concerning the subject then this would probably be a good place to post it and clear the air.


Shit, talk about Mission Impossible. And I think my paranoia is back because Now I’m really worried about that Tupperware party.

Well hopefully that’s all it will be and you won’t have to so shockingly discover your wife has been cheating on you for a lengthy amount of time. While with myself being a firm believer in the lifestyle philosophy I feel proud to say that again the vast majority of people in the lifestyle stand by honesty and open communication and like me despise such treachery and deceitful ways of getting a spouse involved in a lifestyle interest. So let’s not let a few rotten apples spoil the whole bunch shall we? While Vanilla men you are now warned so watch out for any of the tell tale signs presented here. Because if they present themselves then now you will know exactly which end is up and what exactly the *bleep* is going on. For you’ve just learned you’re nothing but a pawn in a long running game and it’s really your wife who’s in charge, and that all this time her and your supposed “friends” have been dictating your life up to this moment.

”Wow, oh wow again the mind boggles. But with your indications of cuckoldry wouldn’t this mean all lifestyle men should be considered cuckolds?

No absolutely not. You see the difference here in these instances is the cheating wife has not only been unfaithful behind her husbands back for some time but also right in front of his face. So until the husband has actually verbally given her his consent and approval to have sex with other people he’s flat out been cuckolded up to that time. And so you see that is the difference. Lifestyle couples by the majority have sat down beforehand and thoroughly with clear minds talked it over first to see if they are both comfortable with the idea of sharing their bodies with other people in each others presence and accordance. While then if they decide they are and give each other their permission when it comes to pass and they find themselves in bed with another couple they are no longer cheating or being unfaithful. Because then they are having sex with these other people with each other’s full knowledge and consent. Hence no one is doing anything underhanded or dishonest to anyone, so the terms, infidelity, unfaithful, cheater and cuckold do not apply. Because you see neither party is actually doing any of those things to the other when consent is given.

“Ah okay, yes easily understood when put in that light so thanks.”

You are welcome. And I wish you all the best with that Tupperware party. Oh and P.S. I would like to point out in the instances here the men in these tales of woe did succumb to their wife’s wiles. Usually because of the trauma it induced at the climax where with mixed emotions, intoxication and not thinking clearly they fell to the intentions of the carefully prepared traps because at the time they felt pressured and saw no other way out. When really they did have another way out, but I’m just guessing divorce never occurred to them at the time for whatever reasons.

However it seems once rational returned to these men the treachery inflicted by someone they thought they loved and could trust eventually came to consume them. Especially since most often in these cases the wife continued to show indifference to her husband’s feelings and went on to exert the power he’s demonstrated she could wield by venturing with or without his consent into things outside swinging that usually didn’t include him. So in all instances with such mistrust, deceit and nonexistence of caring along with deficiency of communication it put an un-healable rift in the relationships until the marriages crumbled and went into ruin within one to two years after the events stated here.

There were no amicable partings





cuck•old [kúkəld]
n (plural cuck•olds)
man whose wife is unfaithful: a husband whose wife has been unfaithful to him (archaic)
vt (past cuck•old•ed, past participle cuck•old•ed, present participle cuck•old•ing, 3rd person present singular cuck•olds)
Make cuckold of somebody: to make a cuckold of a husband (archaic)
[Pre-12th century. From Old Northern French , a variant of Old French cucuault , from cucu “cuckoo,” perhaps from the analogy that other birds’ nests are invaded by cuckoos.]
-cuck•old•ry, n
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

[Dynamar]

I'm sure that did take a long time to write.

But... exactly... what is your point by posting it here?

[fun4Ds]

i dont get it

why the stories with a bad ending?

some of the examples of swinging intros are somehow..... twisted, the decietfull wife and all .

now the one with the masks seemed .... kinda hot except for the bad ending.

[Chicup]

Merric reading your post reminds me of reading some of the conspiracy web sites out there. Well written but there are some basic underlying flaws which sort of derails it all before it gets started.

While undoubtedly there are women who have tried to get their unwilling husbands to swing, I don't think there are many who entered the lifestyle because of the machinations of a cheating wife.

So if this happened to you or people you know, you have my sympathy, but its nothing close to normal in swinging.

[Pepper & Drew]

I'll never get those five minutes (I obviously didn't read the entire post) of my life back.....

Pepper

[sereneiders]

Ok, ok, I admit it. You beat my millon words post!

[avid]

I noticed that this was posted at 8:00 on a Sunday morning.

Either the poster is a chronic insomniac, or he spent the night smoking tons of pot.

I didn't get any of it.

[Merric]

?????????

For those who asked what the point here is, to those I showed this to before posting it they all got the point, which is why I went ahead and posted it. So for those who for some reason “didn’t get it” for the most part what I was primarily trying to point out is there are people who are evil enough to do such things as illustrated here to even their own spouse who relies on them for loyalty, love and trust. Then instead for that are rewarded with a back stabbing that is again illustrated in these instances of my primary post. While similarly pointing out, pretty much after each instance shown in the primary post that the vast majority of Lifestyle members, to my belief anyway, despise such treachery and things like these shock treatment setups in getting a spouse into the lifestyle. And believe more firmly instead in the nobility of honesty and open communication.

Now I’m not really certain what I’m getting by the responses and may just be confused. But if I’m wrong on this and the majority here actually prefers or agrees with such means as illustrated in my initial post to get their spouses involved in the lifestyle then I certainly feel I’ve been let down as to what you people are all about. For in my time here I’ve honestly come to admire the most of you as being strong supporters of again the most noteworthy merits of honesty and open communication. So was I somehow mistaken and you think such tactics as I’ve brought forth here, again in my initial post are acceptable means of getting a spouse into the lifestyle?

If this is so then I really do feel stunned and most certainly disappointed since I was under the belief you folks here had an ideology of healthily and beneficially improving things for both parties of a relationship. I mean in reading other threads here I certainly had come to believe so anyway.

Now okay then hold up too because again I might just be misinterpreting your responses because things don’t always come across on paper or a web page the same as they do the spoken word.

EGE: Avids

“noticed that this was posted at 8:00 on a Sunday morning.
Either the poster is a chronic insomniac, or he spent the night smoking tons of pot.
I didn't get any of it. “

I don’t actually see how the time my initial statement was posted really has anything at all to do with anything. In point of fact I went to bed at about ll:00 PM PST, slept soundly that night before rising at about 7:30 AM PST in the morning and then submitting my initial post at the time quoted. Something easily done because I had worked on it weeks before on Microsoft Word in preparation before cutting and pasting it for posting.

While as to pot Avid I have no idea what kind you might smoke or what it might be laced with but in my sordid youth and Vietnam, Hawaii, Guam and the Philippians when I was in the service I had vast experience with the substance. And I’ll tell you from my experience staying up an entire night while under its influence was usually a highly unlikely thing. Same thing now since I have a prescription for it because of my migraines. And especially since it’s a hallucinogen depressant, the psychoactive ingredient being THC or tetrahydrocannabinol. So for me and everyone I knew who smoked it, it was always a nice high, then unbounded hunger, followed by an intense desire to have sex and then hit the hay and zonk out. But never to recollection especially sitting at a computer a “stay up all night.” Recreational drug. Not unless it was party, party, party time with lots of noise and people to keep you awake. Or unless it was Acid ahem, LSD lysergic acid diethylamide which was the item of influence. Jeeze the hours of straight through, non-stop sex you can get out of that, most certainly a stay up all night item of choice. But now I stray.

So also with this initial post I was pointing out my own personal disappointment with men who would accede to such vindictiveness and allow their unfaithful wives to cuckold them in such a manner in these instances instead of seeking a divorce as seems the logical choice to me. So I guess that about wraps up my reply to the replies. Save for those of them here this didn’t answer then as promised I now refer you back to the”disclaimer “of my original post since my replies to your comments have already been posted in that.

Any way I did stay up all night this time after getting in from a Goth event since I don’t have work today and so now after posting this I bid you a good night, good morning and nothing but the best regardless of the time zone you live in.

Merric, it's a very thought-provoking post.

I think the problem most people who've not "got" it had was the length and convolution of the post - especially hard to wade through first thing in the morning when we're perhaps looking to read short little "how many toys do you have" posts while we sip our morning coffee.

To "get" your post, one has to read it a number of times.

For me, the first time I read it it was just totally confusing and I almost just clicked back to "Active Topics" to check out other posts, but something (perhaps "knowing" you a bit) made me give it a second read.

The second time I read it, after scanning quickly through the "disclaimer" part because that part still didn't make sense to me, I realized that the rest is a story done in an "interviewer/interviewee" style and found it a very interesting story.

The third time, I read the "disclaimer" part VERY carefully, realized that the "disclaimer" part was crucial to understanding why you wrote the story, and think I finally "got" the point of your post ...

It's a very eloquently written "editorial" about women who use tricks to get a man to swing in order to justify her cheating, and your very strong views about what a man should do if any of those tricks were played on him, your views being based on what happened to you and how you handled that.

Annaiis

[Chicup]

Merric the reason most people didn't get it (besides not reading it carefully) is that what you are describing does not apply to them.

What you wrote is totally alien to me and I will assume most swingers. My wife didn't try to trick me into swinging, in fact I brought it up to her. My wife is not evil, and is the most straightforward person I know. If anything, based on the posts I see on this board, the question most frequently asked by a non-swinger is 'how do I get my wife to swing' not 'how do I get my husband to swing.'

So its not that we condone deceitful methods of trying to get ones husband to swing, its that its just not something most of us have come into contact with.

[avid]

Merric, I really did try to "get" what it was you were trying to say, so what I did was go back through your posting history, to kind of get a sense of who you are and where you're coming from.

I wish I could say that it's all clear to me now.

The one thing I've noticed is that a substantial number of your posts deal with cuckolding. Is this an area that you think about often? I don't think it really applies to swinging so much. That being said, the similar fetish of the "hot wives" lifestyle could be something that some swinging couples go for. The difference there is that the behaviour is consensual and everyone is in the know.

Now, I have to say, I was the one who introduced the concept of swinging to my husband, after I initially learned about it through my lover. At no time, however, was I deceitful about it, and I let the subject drop after introducing it to him in respectful conversation. After a while, he looked it up on his own, and suggested we visit a club. That was last fall. He was a little slower getting started than I was, but you should have seen the grin on his face Saturday night as he was dancing with a very sexy, half naked woman!

[jedi6942]

Over a period of time, I have read any number of threads, within this forum, that revolve around one half of a couple trying to get information, from this fine group of people, about how to convince, cajole, trick, or persuade their partner into swinging. Most of the time the person that is the "target" of these efforts is undesireous or unwitting of their own involvement.

Whenever these people post there is always an indignation from the more informed "backbone" of this board that understand what swinging is and the pitfalls of a dishonest approach. Every time the responses are predictable. Communicate what you want honestly and openly. Do not pressure anyone. No means no. Never move faster than the slowest person.

I've read these same words, perhaps phrased differently, over and over again.

What Merric has written, while admittedly is one man's viewpoint, is a reasonable offering of what may well take place when "swinging", or anything else in a romantic relationship, is not appoached with honesty and openness. I've read many post that were easier to read; but, I think his point is clear. Seems to me that he agrees with so many others on the Swingers Board that cheating is not swinging and deceit is not respecting your partner.

For most of us, the scenarios depicted by Merric do not apply. Thankfully! For others though, (you know, those that seek to get a partner to swing by trickery or deceit), I really feel that this thread should be an encouraged read.

Thanks, Merric for taking the time to share the way you see a bad situation.

[Amanda69]

To be honest the content is negative, like the others I don't really get it and one of the reasons is....it is far too long for me to read in detail. I come on the board to enjoy the banter and advice giving of the posters. The various personalities offer insight and some humor to brighten up the day. This article is well written and I am sure would provide some with an interesting read but it is not what I look for on this website.

[MandingoLeo]

I enjoyed reading this and agree with the perspective in which it was presented up to a point. The point being that once consent is given to extramarital participation, no matter what the deception, it's your choice. In two of the situations, the deceitful social coersion worked only because it was the husband's choice to either bang an unrecognized masked woman or to go along with a game of known extramarital possibilities for both he and his wife. Not being a drinker, perhaps it's simply beyond me to fathom the factor of CHOOSING to allow one's own intoxication in contributing to the matter but the bottom line is that the point of innocence is left with one's own consent to extramarital activity. That said, even though the husband is guilty of consent to an extramarital situation, he is nevertheless justified in being upset over the amount of deception and manipulation required to gain his consent, especially since his wife is already cheating on him. But let's change one variable. Maintaining all of the deceit involved, what if the goal were to get the Vanilla husband to consent BEFORE the willing Vanilla wife ever engages in any extramarital activity? Instead of a post-wife-adultery consent, what if the husband were manipulated into a pre-wife-adultery consent to justify his own wife's immediate participation in a group's extramarital activities? What if the masked stripper actually was unknown to the Vanilla husband or was one of the other guys' wives with his own still Vanilla wife waiting in the wings to come out and surprise him with her consent? What if the Vanilla husband's participation in the sex game was manipulated to involve him before the involvement of his consenting wife? The same level of intent, manipulation, and deceit, is there only the actual crime of the still deceitful and manipulative Vanilla wife crossing the adultery line isn't. What's the 'Vanilla' husband to feel then? He's the victim of a conspiracy involving his own trusted wife but he also physically consents to participating in an extramarital activity before she actually does. Should he feel okay with what is ultimately his free will decision to allow himself participation in extramarital activity or should he feel betrayed by the level of manipulation required to bring that decision about?

[biornot]

It's to long of a post.