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Old 06-14-2005, 01:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Default Re: Friends VS Just Playmates

While I'd like to believe friendship can come first, my experience, much to my chagrin, has been that the sex has to come before the friendship whether its dating or swinging. Whenever I tried being friends first, or tried combining friendship with sex, I'd get the "I like you and thought of you that way in the beginning, but I don't want to ruin our friendship now by having sex" talk, both from single women and couples.

But thats just my experience. It could be that I have a more narrow view of what friendship means or that I've been meeting the wrong people.
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:24 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I have had friends who we swung with, and then non vanilla couples who became friends after we got together.

I have to say I much prefer becoming friends after sex. THat way if you decide at some point that you no longer want to have sex with them, it does not ruin the friendship becuase you both understand that this is just sex and not a personal thing. It is harder to tell the people who are friends first that you want to end the sex aspect of your relationship as they may take it personal and you could lose a good friend.

Then there are times when you don't want to have any kind of relationship wtih them at all and just want sex....hey, I take it case by case
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Old 06-14-2005, 08:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
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We have to agree with EvilMJ on this. We have had friends that became playmates and the sex was just so-so. Its uncomfortable telling someone that you have made an investment in that you like them just not "That way" expecially after we have crossed the line into sex. On the other hand we have had great mind blowing sex with people that we didn't know and after found out that we had nothing in common with.

That said, we are very selective when giving the title "friend" to someone. A friend is someone you can count on to be there in any situation. An acquaintance is something else. We have may lifestyle acquanitances, have played with some, and may play with them again.

Swinging is about sex and connecting on a primal hedonistic level. Just because we're not friends doesn't mean we can't have a good time together.
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