OMG -- It's REALLY gonna happen!!!

[SBcpl]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Best of everything for you tomorrow night!

Not tomorrow night -- next week, Saturday the 26th.
My sweet lady's DRIPPING facelick with anticipation and I can HARDly wait!

~ Mr. SB ~

[LikeMinds321]

Of course the 26th is next week. *Slapping palm of hand on forehead* I have something planned that day and it is on my mind as if it were going to be here tomorrow.

That's what can happen when you're thinking ahead.

Well, that just gives us one more week to talk about your preparation for the big event. Anticipation is wonderful. Don't you think?

LM

[SBcpl]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Well, that just gives us one more week to talk about your preparation for the big event.

Oh, yeah... and, if y'all don't mind, we'll be talking about it here... 'cause all of our friends who we'd normally share our excitement with are plain vanilla and wouldn't quite understand.

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Anticipation is wonderful. Don't you think?

Our anticipation is mindboggling! And, sorry, we don't have time to think -- we're too busy licking and lusting and fucking... and flirting with her soon-to-be fuck buddy. My sweet, demure wife has turned into one helluva cyber cock tease -- and I'm just loving it!

[DBL D]

The Mrs. looks fine! Now, how about a photo you on the ad too?

Hope it all goes well for everyone...but if things go different then planned, hang in there.

Male D

[SBcpl]

Originally Posted by DBL D

The Mrs. looks fine! Now, how about a photo you on the ad too?

Boy, what a scary idea! She's beautiful, but I'm ugly, smelly and older'n dirt. And besides, I hope any guys that contact us are interested in having sex with her and not with me.

Actually, our privates pics have photos of both of us, so anybody we get serious with will in fact get to see me and verify that I don't have three heads or any other major deformities. We made them private because they show both our faces much too clearly, so we don't want them too easily accessible to the general public.

Originally Posted by SBcpl

Oh, yeah... and, if y'all don't mind, we'll be talking about it here... 'cause all of our friends who we'd normally share our excitement with are plain vanilla and wouldn't quite understand.

Our anticipation is mindboggling! And, sorry, we don't have time to think -- we're too busy licking and lusting and fucking... and flirting with her soon-to-be fuck buddy. My sweet, demure wife has turned into one helluva cyber cock tease -- and I'm just loving it!

Hell no we don't mind!!!

We can hardly wait!

[curiousagain]

Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs-naughty

Hell no we don't mind!!!

We can hardly wait!

Dito
Actually, we would be pretty darn dissapointed if you didn't update us afterwards.

[SBcpl]

Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs-naughty

Reality and fantasy do not always mix well afterwards for everyone. ...

Some couples have issues afterwards. Feelings creep in about feeling "less than" because of the amount of enjoyment the woman will (or can) receive from the other man. ...

Make sure you understand beforehand that once it is done, it's done. There is no taking it back.

If ... there are any feelings of hurt or jealousy afterwards remember this is something you chose to do TOGETHER. You can not hold any negative feelings against someone for something you encouraged them to try.

Having read a bunch of posts, on this board and others, from people who have experienced bad aftereffects, I've tried to think through pretty thoroughly about how I'm likely to react. I know it's gonna be a wild emotional roller coaster ride, and I'll need to control the fear and jealousy and rage while I ride out the big wave of unbelievably intense sexual excitement.

In our first phone conversation my wife's fuck-buddy-to-be asked me several questions, including how did I think I could handle the Green Monster? I wrote a long letter in response (I'd consider posting it here, but it might be too long -- about four printed pages -- what is the length limit for posting here?) and, in writing it, it forced me to think through some heavy issues. One of the issues I thought about most was what kind of limits should we impose on the relationship between him and my wife. I ultimately decided that as long as my wife is enjoying it, there should be no limits at all!

I know that opens the door wide to all sorts of things including, for example, my wife telling him, right in front of me, how much better his cock feels inside her than mine does. But that's OK, because why are we bringing an outside stunt cock into our relationship if not to make my lady feel better and more satisfied than she ever has before. I'd be disappointed if he wasn't bigger, harder, and longer lasting than me. I'd be disappointed if he didn't know a bunch of new sexual tricks that will send my wife into complete ecstasy. I mean, if he can't satisfy her more than I do, then what's the point? I figure the hotter and more intense her experience with him is, the hotter and more intense our own lovemaking will be for the coming weeks and months -- and how can I not love that thought.

Do these thoughts make sense to other people?

Does anybody want me to try posting that long letter?

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by SBcpl

I know that opens the door wide to all sorts of things including, for example, my wife telling him, right in front of me, how much better his cock feels inside her than mine does. But that's OK, because why are we bringing an outside stunt cock into our relationship if not to make my lady feel better and more satisfied than she ever has before. I'd be disappointed if he wasn't bigger, harder, and longer lasting than me. I'd be disappointed if he didn't know a bunch of new sexual tricks that will send my wife into complete ecstasy. I mean, if he can't satisfy her more than I do, then what's the point?

From what you describe above, I think you are very focused on the physical aspects of the experience and how his attributes and talents will satisfy your wife. But have you thought about the emotional--call it psychological even--pleasure your wife may receive?

This is what takes a "stunt cock" and turns him into a human being, and not just an object, which you describe him as in the paragragh above. I'm not implying you're being cold or impersonal, I'm trying to point out that the closeness of the event may be on a level you haven't yet acknowledged.

This deeper, emotional level, can occur and you should be prepared for it. It is the reason that I think many swingers warn against spending too much time on the phone or in chats with a swing partner. A bond can develop that could interfere with you and your wife's relationship.

Something to think about.

I feel your interest in seeing your wife made happy is overflowing from within you. But don't ever feel the sole point of swinging is to find guys who can give your wife more than you do. It will be something different, but not always more or better.

LM

[SBcpl]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

... I think you are very focused on the physical aspects of the experience.... But have you thought about the emotional ... pleasure your wife may receive?

...I'm trying to point out that the closeness of the event may be on a level you haven't yet acknowledged.

This deeper, emotional level, can occur and you should be prepared for it. ... A bond can develop that could interfere with you and your wife's relationship.

...don't ever feel the sole point of swinging is to find guys who can give your wife more than you do. It will be something different, but not always more or better.

Thanks for the insightful comments and, yes, we have thought through those emotional involvements. In fact, a couple of years ago one of my wife's business associates started to establish just such a relationship with her. It resulted in a small speed bump in our own relationship, but we both quickly recognized it and nipped it in the bud. It caused some emotional turmoil for maybe a week or less, but we are now both keenly aware of how those relationships can develop and how to deal with them when they do.

I realize that there will be -- indeed, must be -- some emotional involvement with any guy she's having sex with in order for her to fully enjoy the experience. We both know this and have discussed it at considerable length. We hope to avoid the harmful side effects by establishing relationships with several guys, so there won't be an opportunity for any one guy to dominate her time, and by agreeing that all communications involve both of us and not just her alone. In fact, so far the only one-on-one communication has been between me and her prospective new partner when he phoned a little while ago while she was out. We had a very pleasant guy-to-guy conversation, and I now feel even more comfortable with him than I already did.

My use of the term "stunt cock" and my insistence that he be better than me were somewhat flippant exagerations that perhaps detracted from my main point. My sarcastic humor sometimes gets in the way of my message. I recognize that some of my wife's sex partners may well be better endowed, longer lasting, or more talented and experienced than I am. I'm OK, but basically pretty average when it comes to sexual performance. So when we run across a partner who can outperform me in bed, I'm not going to get uptight about it or start feeling "less than" as Mr. Naughty put it. Instead I expect to revel in watching her enjoy her new partner's expertise. And I want her to be able to be uninhibited and form whatever immediate emotional and physical bonds heighten her pleasure. We'll have plenty of time after it's all over to go home, discuss all aspects of our experience, and reaffirm our love for each other as we cuddle and make sweet, tender love to one another ... and discuss who she'd like for her next boy-toy. Oh, sheeeit! There goes that damn sarcastic humor again.

[Buck]

She once was a very modest young lady, just like her Mommy taught her to be. But in recent years, thanks to compliments and flattery from complete strangers like yourself, she's grown less and less self conscious and become more and more of an exhibitionist.

~ Mr. SB ~

This is great Mr. SB. Tell us, how did Mrs. SB move from very modest to sex goddess? Just what was the process? I suppose it was from encouragement from you, but just how did it happen? My wife is curious but just doesn't have the self confidence or whatever to make the move. All my efforts to boost her self image seem fruitless. What was the key for Mrs. SB?

[SBcpl]

Originally Posted by Buck

... how did Mrs. SB move from very modest to sex goddess? Just what was the process? ... just how did it happen? ... What was the key for Mrs. SB?

Hi Buck,

This is Mrs. SB for a change of pace.

It was not an overnight -- presto here I am, a Sex Goddess -- changed from little missy girl scout. Besides all the love and encouragement from the light in my life, my own light within me started burning brighter and brighter through the years. My own self fullfillment and self-confidence had to come first. I also am lucky that my physical appearance got better -- I let the silver gray hair grow in peace and have had an inordinate number of people -- young, old, men, women -- wanting to touch it and raving about it. I think the smoldering light inside started to ooze out and it was like men and women could smell it and I have been getting all kinds of compliments, smiles, flirting eyes and out and out propositions, including one guy who told me he had been burning for me and wanted to bury his head in my bush. Maybe my heat was turned up to high.

One way that I became more fullfilled over the years was to have an open mind, watch different shows about sex, read about what men want, and by being very curious. Also I read the books listed below and more. Some of the books are more 'clinical' and others more erotic. By reading them I found I was not the only woman who had the feelings that I was experiencing. The realizations made me more self-confident and wanting to play more and more. You know, I needed the practice to 'get it right' so I could guide my lover to take me places I had not been before. I love the erotic and the mind trip. The mind being the sex organ can be mind blowing!

Here's a few of the books...

"Pleasures: Women Write Erotica" by Lonnie Barbach (great author to start with)
"For Yourself" by L. Barbach
"For Women Only: A Revolutionary Guide to Reclaiming your Sex Life" by Jennifer and Laura Berman
"The Ethical Slut" by Dossie Easton and Catherine Liszt
Any book by Nancy Friday...love these books such as 'My Secret Garden", "Women on Top"
"Delta of Venus: Erotica by Anais Nin" and anythiing else she wrote...she was Henry Millers real lover and featured in the movie 'Henry and June'
"Female ejaculation & the G-spot: not your mother's orgasm book!" by Deborah Sundahl

[lovefest04]

Buck,

I think there are many ways to bring out the goddess in our women.

First and foremost is for every man to truly and deeply realize just how wonderful our partners are. Understand it and then live it. Remember to use compliments, attention, kisses for no reason, staying right next to them all night at a "vanilla" party to show your love and admiration. Don't miss an opportunity to show your wife/partner that you love them, that you need them, that you lust after them.

For many men, this means turning down the old ego a bit and not being so selfish. (don't spam me, its just my opinion) Men need to understand how great life can be as partners. We do not loose face by being caring and deeply loving human beings. If you don't believe me, just do it for yourself, in my humble experience women will positively react to loving attention, it a win win.

Personally, we moved into swinging over a year or so, I did as I say above and then enjoyed the results. Then I set up opportunities for her to begin a conversation with other men that was very safe. We started with phone sex, and it worked. Receiving attention from not only me, but a total stranger got her very excited. The phone also allowed her to be in total control (we called him, we blocked our number, we never gave out last name etc) Then she began to wonder about the possibilities on her own.

Bottomline, I was a catalyst. I led her to the water and then she began to drink on her own. We took it at her pace etc. Many many others have spoken about the rest. Communication, slow pace, etc.

The books are a great idea Ms. SB, I also think reading erotica together can help to stimulate the imagination.

Finally, if she is self conscious about her appearance. Look through the Swing Lifestyle ads with pics to get an idea of the range of body types or take a peak at www.voyeurweb.com (this is a site where people post pics of themselves in various stages of undress or more) to get a better idea of the sexyness of all women.

Good luck

S

[Buck]

Originally Posted by SBcpl

Hi Buck,

This is Mrs. SB for a change of pace.
Besides all the love and encouragement from the light in my life, my own light within me started burning brighter and brighter through the years. My own self fullfillment and self-confidence had to come first. I also am lucky that my physical appearance got better

Thanks, Mrs. SB for your response. We're about the same ages as you and Mr. SB. As the years have gone by, my wife and I have gotten much, much, closer, especially since we both retired and can spend more time together. In my opinion she is better looking than ever but I can't convince her of that. She worries about the crow's feet wrinkles etc. I call her greying hair a natural frost, that she doesn't have to pay for now. She was very skinny until about ten years ago when she put on a few age pounds like most of us do, but me and even some of my guy friends thinks it has been for the better: no hip bones protruding, and fuller, more pronounced breasts. I compliment her and like I said, from time to time a couple of our close guy friends do to. However; I don't think she is convinced she's "still" attractive. She is a prolific reader so maybe I can get her to read some of those books you have suggested. We do watch pornos together occasionally and she really gets turned on by those and we have good lovemaking sessions afterward. Years ago I bought her a vibrator, and it took a while for her to use it in front of me, now she does all the time. Its like I have been the one to lead her to the water, and when she eventually drinks, she likes it. I thinks she knows such things as MFM's would turn her on but she is afraid to admit it. She has looked at the Swingersboard a couple of time with me, but usually declines when I suggest it together. Anyway, I think you get the picture. I'll keep hoping someday she will want to move into another aspect of her ("our") sexuality. By the way, you are a "knockout" in your avatar.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by lovefest04

Buck,

I think there are many ways to bring out the goddess in our women.

First and foremost is for every man to truly and deeply realize just how wonderful our partners are. Understand it and then live it. Remember to use compliments, attention, kisses for no reason, staying right next to them all night at a "vanilla" party to show your love and admiration. Don't miss an opportunity to show your wife/partner that you love them, that you need them, that you lust after them.
S

Lovefest04, thanks for your response too. I promise you what you suggested is what I do. I never let an opportunity to pass that I can compliment her. Convincing her is another matter. In the almost 30 years I've known her, she seems to be right on the edge of being shy little small town girl but can't break through to unleashing her sexuality to include anyone other than me. I suppose there are millions of men who would trade places with me in that respect, however, my whole focus when it comes to sex is her....I don't want to swing to be able to experience other women, I just want to share her and focus on her pleasure....that's my main turn on.
I appreciate your thoughtful response, and maybe someday our time will come.